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librechik

(30,674 posts)
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 11:15 AM Aug 2018

So angry that crazy Trumpsters stole our term for THEM (Trump Derangement Syndrome)

and are now applying it to US!

as if it's insane to be opposed to the crime, chaos, corruption and lies of Trump and ilk; as if it's dishonest to call him out.

This is outrageous, We are losing ground.

So sneaky! Thanks FOXNEWS~

Same with trying to turn us free-speech-fanatic libs into McCarthy-ites. 1984 Much???

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So angry that crazy Trumpsters stole our term for THEM (Trump Derangement Syndrome) (Original Post) librechik Aug 2018 OP
I said to my fluid daughter that LGBTQs should fly the Gadsden flag, rednecks would never again. TheBlackAdder Aug 2018 #1
Nope.Libs really don't have the stomach. We have to turn their lies against them somehow. librechik Aug 2018 #2
Maybe with both sides being referred to as having Trump Derangement Syndrome Frustratedlady Aug 2018 #3
cognitive dissonance is a tool of authoritarianism. librechik Aug 2018 #4
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2018 #5
It wasn't so sneaky... JHB Aug 2018 #6
thanks librechik Aug 2018 #7
Doesn't really bother me EricMaundry Aug 2018 #8
From two years back: How McCarthy lawyer Roy Cohn mentored Donald Trump CBHagman Aug 2018 #9

TheBlackAdder

(28,201 posts)
1. I said to my fluid daughter that LGBTQs should fly the Gadsden flag, rednecks would never again.
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 11:18 AM
Aug 2018

.

That's the conservative's M.O., co-opt the opposition. Turn their strengths and symbols against them.

Democrats have to start doing the same shit back to them!

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Democrats can still use Trump Derangement Syndrome, since it won't air on Russian State media -- FOX News.

We should not give that one up.

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librechik

(30,674 posts)
2. Nope.Libs really don't have the stomach. We have to turn their lies against them somehow.
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 11:26 AM
Aug 2018

Lies are just stronger than truth, which is nuanced and needs listening, corroboration and explanation.


Cons love lies, very natural to them.

We. Just. Can't. We know something they don't.

Lies . Will. Out.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
3. Maybe with both sides being referred to as having Trump Derangement Syndrome
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 11:28 AM
Aug 2018

it simply means he's driving us all nuts. It's working with me!

He is telling us everything we believed is now wrong. Up is down, truth is not truth, he is intelligent, etc., and expects us to believe him, the liar, that it is true. After all, he is the leader, er...king.


Response to librechik (Original post)

JHB

(37,160 posts)
6. It wasn't so sneaky...
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 11:41 AM
Aug 2018

The whole "derangement syndrome" phrase originated on the Right (maybe on FOX) as "Bush Derangement Syndrome" and was used against people critical of Bush and his policies and actions to imply that opposition was not for legitimate reasons.

I wasn't too thrilled to see it adapted to describe opposition to Obama, even though it came a lot closer to being accurate in that usage.

So claiming Trump's opponents are just operating on TDS is in keeping with the established usage, no matter how much more accurate it is when describing Trump's supporters.

CBHagman

(16,984 posts)
9. From two years back: How McCarthy lawyer Roy Cohn mentored Donald Trump
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 12:42 PM
Aug 2018

Note that even today Trump is calling the Russia investigation McCarthyism when he learned his attack. counterattack, never apologize M.O. from Joseph McCarthy's own lawyer.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/former-mccarthy-aide-showed-trump-how-to-exploit-power-and-draw-attention/2016/06/16/e9f44f20-2bf3-11e6-9b37-42985f6a265c_story.html?utm_term=.b79f7384e418

In October 1973, when Trump and Cohn first met at Le Club, the lawyer was instantly recognizable, with piercing blue eyes, heavy eyelids and a perpetual tan. James D. Zirin, a New York lawyer who later wrote about Cohn, recalled him as “the strangest-looking man I ever met,” with a face “contorted in a perpetual ugly sneer that seemed to project an air of unbridled malevolence.” Trump, not yet a household name, knew about Cohn’s reputation as a legal knife fighter.

At the time, Trump and his father, Fred, were facing Justice Department allegations that they had systematically discriminated against black people at their family-owned or -managed apartment complexes across New York City. Cohn agreed to represent the Trumps — his way. That meant hitting back hard while shaping public opinion. On Dec. 12, 1973, Donald Trump, his father and Cohn called a news conference at the New York Hilton hotel. They said they were suing the government for $100 million in damages relating to the Justice Department’s “irresponsible and baseless” allegations.

Cohn went further in an affidavit, saying the government was really trying to force “subservience to the Welfare Department,” according to court records.

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