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dajoki

(10,678 posts)
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 12:29 PM Aug 2018

Ex-prosecutor: Giuliani is in 'very dark place'

Ex-prosecutor: Giuliani is in ‘very dark place’ after shocking ‘truth isn’t truth’ meltdown over Mueller investigation
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/08/ex-prosecutor-giuliani-dark-place-shocking-truth-isnt-truth-nbc-meltdown-mueller-investigation/#.W3mUgKFucHE.twitter

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Speaking with NBC host Chuck Todd, the personal attorney for President Donald Trump argued about the nature of “truth,” finally blurting “truth isn’t truth” to the incredulous host.

Asked by AM Joy fill-in host Rev. Al Sharpton “What just happened here?” ex-prosecutor Joyce Vance said the former New York City mayor is “in a very dark place.”

“If you have to resort to ‘truth isn’t truth,’ particularly as a lawyer, you’re in a dark place,” she explained. “You’re in a place where you know your client is in a lot of trouble because we know there is a truth and when two witnesses tell different stories in an investigation, the job is to look at evidence that corroborates one version or the other.”

“But Trump tried to maintain that the truth is what he says the truth is ” Vance continued, “and a couple weeks ago he said you can’t believe what you see, you can’t believe what you hear and at bottom it’s this effort by his administration to convince the American people that there is no truth.”

“That is the most disheartening part of this endeavor because there is truth, it’s what prosecutors like folks in my former job do every day in court — help juries make determinations about what is the truth,” she lectured. “There is a truth about this presidency and it’s time for the American people to learn what it is.”

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Ex-prosecutor: Giuliani is in 'very dark place' (Original Post) dajoki Aug 2018 OP
Up Trump's arse is a very dark place. peekaloo Aug 2018 #1
Ghouli on fox this morning saying, empedocles Aug 2018 #2
I was going to ask if he received any real push back when I noticed peekaloo Aug 2018 #4
I thought of this immediately as well. Momgonepostal Aug 2018 #6
Joyce Vance is very very good. I would not want to be Raven Aug 2018 #3
It's a whole party of crooks and liars thegoose Aug 2018 #5
This is a concerted effort by the tangerine turd squad: world wide wally Aug 2018 #7
A good one along the same line I saw on Twitter.... KY_EnviroGuy Aug 2018 #14
Unless he's dead in the ground, he ain't in a dark enough place. None of them are. eom DRoseDARs Aug 2018 #8
The assault on the truth is unbelievable. gademocrat7 Aug 2018 #9
Ahh c'mon people benld74 Aug 2018 #10
He is not. Orsino Aug 2018 #11
"America's Mayor." Hac-tooie! Faygo Kid Aug 2018 #12
It's as though we're living Orwell's 1984. Garrett78 Aug 2018 #13

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
2. Ghouli on fox this morning saying,
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 12:54 PM
Aug 2018

[can't believe the gut wrenching irony here], 'I'd love to question Brennan subpoenaed and under oath'


Ugh!

peekaloo

(22,977 posts)
4. I was going to ask if he received any real push back when I noticed
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 01:00 PM
Aug 2018

you said Fox.

Malice in Blunderland and he's the Mad Shatter!

world wide wally

(21,743 posts)
7. This is a concerted effort by the tangerine turd squad:
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 02:51 PM
Aug 2018

Trump: "Don't believe what you see or hear"
Ghouliani: "truth is not truth"
Kellyann Conway: "we are entitled to alternative facts"

All of them: "Trump tells it like it is"

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,491 posts)
14. A good one along the same line I saw on Twitter....
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 03:34 PM
Aug 2018

(with credit to) Adam Best
?Verified account @adamcbest
Jul 30

*Trump drowns a puppy, pulls it out of the water at the last moment*

Trump: "Not even Lincoln saved a puppy."

Liberals/Media: "You tried to drown it."

Hannity: "The fake news media won't even let Trump save a puppy without attacking him."

MAGA: "Why do liberals hate puppies?"



.................

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
11. He is not.
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 03:15 PM
Aug 2018

He's barely even a lawyer, collecting checks for lying on TV. His "client" is unlikely to face legal consequences anytime soon, and little of that will blow back onto Rudy. He'll eventually skate, once he's extracted enough campaign cash, perhaps after a publiccome-to-Jesus moment in which he feigns outrage at having been lied to.

And, if he's interested, slip right into a paid gig at Fox.

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