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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFunny: Hooters is closing locations, restrategizing because millennials aren't that into boobs.
Millennials' porn preferences appear to be indicative of a wider trend. To use a fire portmanteau, "breastaurants" like Hooters and the more risque Twin Peaks are dealing with a loss of interest in breasts, which is affecting their business. The number of Hooters locations in the U.S. had already dropped by more than 7 percent from 2012 to 2016, and sales had stagnated, according to Business Insider.
Hooters has been trying to win over millennials for years; in 2012, the chain spiced up its image with a new decor and updated menu items, in an attempt to attract younger patrons and female customers. They even pivoted and opened up a fast-casual location called Hoots, which features fully-clothed female and male waiters.
In an interview with Mel Magazine, PornHub Vice President Corey Price joked, "Could it be that millennials arent into breasts because, simply, they like big butts and cannot lie?" More seriously, he continued, "Its not our job to speculate but rather provide compelling data for our fans to digest and draw their own inferences from."
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oasis
(49,386 posts)Pachamama
(16,887 posts)Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)Boobs will be back
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,345 posts)forgotmylogin
(7,528 posts)I've enjoyed the couple times I've eaten there - it was especially a riot when my friend brought his two-year old and the waitresses scooped him up and passed him around and he returned a half hour later laden with gifts and helium balloons tied to every appendage! The food at the location I went to was fine, but it's more an event location and not a sports bar you can just drop into and relax. The middle-aged men who do "frequent" the place are a bit ... well ... skeevy due to the implications of the hot waitstaff. It's much cheaper and less morally gray to hang out at a normal local sports bar or a place like Buffalo Wild Wings.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)Lochloosa
(16,064 posts)Initech
(100,076 posts)Haven't been back to one since.
Lochloosa
(16,064 posts)Initech
(100,076 posts)Things like tip garnishing, abusive bosses, long hours with no breaks, frequent visits from the health inspectors... doesn't sound like a place I would want to work, or frequent.
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)Funny you should mention getting sick, because I know a few people who went to Hooters on a regular basis up until a few years ago, and they got sick as well. They've never gone back. I know folks who won't go there any longer who while they haven't gotten sick, they tell me that the food isn't what it used to be.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)Bradshaw3
(7,522 posts)Always has been. Some restaurants go downhill. Hooters started out bad and hasn't gotten better.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)Bradshaw3
(7,522 posts)As an inordinate amount of posters have testified to in this thread.
Dr. Strange
(25,921 posts)Even the Olive Garden?
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)Love the salad bowls and cheesey muffins. Woot.
RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)The night several people tried to claim Little Caesar's was good pizza was an eye rolling moment.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)Didn't know they donated, but, yes, makes me love them more.
RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)15 years apart in two different locations.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Every restaurant has DU fans.
One imagines we may also allege that in regards to any criticism made about an establishment, a DUer will find a way to call that out as well... in the name of righteousness, of course.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)but I was there just once and it was over 20 years ago.
Gosh....just realized they have been there a long time.
Initech
(100,076 posts)Shitty food + shitty service + hostile work environments = why the hell would you want to eat there? But let's blame it on the boobs because reasons.
underpants
(182,803 posts)Not that I'm cheap but the last time I was at a Hooters was the late 90's and a cheeseburger was like $9. That was a lot for a burger back then. I just checked - their basic standard "Big Hootie" is $14 now.
I always thought the pantyhose with running shorts were an odd look.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Decide if you want to operate a restaurant or a strip club and do it well, but stop trying to combine the two and trying to claim the business model isn't working because of demographics.
Power 2 the People
(2,437 posts)JI7
(89,249 posts)generations .
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)Let's be real. And I certainly LOVE that aspect of their schtick as well. Who needs boobs w your burger though? Go to a strip club if you must. Boobs CERTAINLY aren't what is bringing down Hooters. I wonder how many lawsuits they've had over the years of sexual harassment?
uponit7771
(90,339 posts)yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)How are our national all-you-can-eat buffets doing?
Golden Corral? Gangbusters!
Cici's Pizza? Godfather's? Pizza Hut? Thriving!
Maybe "big butts" is right!
uponit7771
(90,339 posts)yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)probably aren't as discriminatory as you may be regarding classification of 'butts.'
Submariner
(12,504 posts)Wimmens?
republicans?
????
Va Lefty
(6,252 posts)2naSalit
(86,612 posts)you reminded me of something completely different but it's almost related to your comment in an oblique kind of way
And it's humorous....
ismnotwasm
(41,980 posts)Broaden the target Demographic a bit...
LuvLoogie
(7,003 posts)Hooters has an owl. Cocks can have a rooster.
bpj62
(999 posts)Big Peckers Bar and Grill. It has been an Ocean City institution for years.
As a gay man, obviously the boobs are totally wasted on me. Ive been to Hooters exactly once in my 50-plus years, and it was underwhelming, to say the least! I dont even remember what I ate! I have often thought that someone should open a chicken joint called Peckers, with a big rooster on the sign, and maybe shirtless buff male servers who would appeal to both women and men!!
forgotmylogin
(7,528 posts)Do already employ a good number of very attractive young men and women who are usually in college. None of them are expected to dress provocatively - usually in a bar t-shirt and jeans or shorts, often with an apron to carry their orders and paperwork.
I have had female friends who frequent specific sports bars due to the high ratio of "hawt" male waiters and bartenders.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)Corvo Bianco
(1,148 posts)Volaris
(10,271 posts)mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)You made me have to watch some p0rnz ...
oasis
(49,386 posts)My wife and I went only twice. Both Hooters and the Marino's restaurant inside the casino/hotel had shitty food.
Two strikes and ... "yer out".
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)Former QB of the Dolphins? He had a restaurant here in Orlando but I think it closed years ago. I never ate there but I have been to Hooters many times and was pretty disappointed every time. It's just so average and uninspiring food. And that's not to say I won't eat crummy food - I go to McDonalds a few times a month for convenience - but it's WAY cheaper than Hooters.
oasis
(49,386 posts)respect. Never went back . As far as I know it's still operating at the LV Hooters location just a block off the Strip. Hooters and Marino's are two colossal duds in a great location.
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)off the same Sysco truck and pretend it's created in the kitchen. The Marino's here was in the same retail shopping village as the Hooters and now that I think about it, I think both are closed. But we still got plenty of Hooterses. They're just all crap.
Luz
(772 posts)to many good local businesses to support.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)She had what it takes to work there, but they didn't even interview her. Could it be because she was African? Hmmmm, rather suspicious if you ask me.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)There's a corporate Hooters near here. They actually seem to work to maintain a wide distribution of just about every appearance attribute. From talking to some of the senior staff, the interview process focuses a bit more on personality and customer interaction. I'm dubious they are actually good at the interview process, but it can lead to strange rejections for no apparent reasons.
Of course some Hooters are franchises, so any particular place can have their biases, conscious or otherwise.
fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)than when Hooters first hit the scene.
Now I love boobs. Always will. But Boobs with poor food isn't a great combination.
forgotmylogin
(7,528 posts)People ate them because they were cheap and many enjoy gnawing on the bony parts. Now frikking chicken wings are expensive at the grocery store.
I much prefer legs and thighs though which are less expensive and contain more meat. I'm surprised some wing places don't also offer "Buffalo Legs".
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)That was funny.
DFW
(54,379 posts)I imagine the "Christians" would prefer something with a more Republican flavor.
I would think they would go for something like a place where the waiters all look like the opening scene of "The Book Of Mormon," and with a name they can feel comfortable with. I would suggest "Haters."
LiberalFighter
(50,928 posts)TexasTowelie
(112,189 posts)Of course they may have to wait more than five minutes before a server brings a glass of water to the table.
DFW
(54,379 posts)I gotta get back more often, I guess
TexasTowelie
(112,189 posts)They cater to the senior citizen crowd and grandma goes home with a buzz from the drinks. Their restaurants are found in most cities over 10,000 throughout the country. It definitely isn't a breastaurant.
DFW
(54,379 posts)I think I'll survive without spending time searching one of those places out.
JI7
(89,249 posts)Jspur
(578 posts)I have to say it has to do with a few other reasons than millennials are not into boobs. When I was younger in my early 20's I went to Hooters several times and every time I went there the food was shitty. I have to also say my generation is the first generation to be overexposed to Porn due to the internet. It's because of that we are not going to be willing to waste money to eat terrible food just to stare at boobs or ass when we could be doing it for free at home.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)So true.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)Archae
(46,327 posts)But everyone I know who has, and just about all the posters here say the food is shitty.
Can't run a restaurant that way.
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)Over the decades there have been one version after another, some joints like the old Imperial Palace with huge breasts prominently on display, while other spots like the Rio emphasized the ass sticking out. It was a big deal when that casino opened because the waitress uniforms were such a departure from the norm. Everybody was talking about it. And the ass-favoring sports bettors and poker players started hanging out there.
Nowadays there are many more casinos featuring the ass. I knew something had changed in terms of preference.
Johnny2X2X
(19,066 posts)Maybe millennials arent as fond of dressing young women like that so they can be ogled by dirty old men.
OhioBlue
(5,126 posts)It is objectifying women and I have always thought the restaurant chain was distasteful for doing so, which made me avoid them.
edbermac
(15,939 posts)My theory is that looking at boobs is a way to distract you noticing from the lousy food. Too salty for my taste. Lots of better eateries in the area.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)onethatcares
(16,168 posts)is waiting for them to open a Papa Johns in the one close to him. He says it's gonna be heaven but he lost his jobs and has to save aluminum cans for his and her nights out.
AwakeAtLast
(14,125 posts)And we can take our daughter. B Dubs also has one of the best side salads I have ever had. We will choose it over most chains. They took Hooters concept, clothed the servers, and made better food. Novel concept. Now if we could just get rid of at least 20 TVs...
vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)We have a local place that is basically the same called Hummers. Locally owned, better food, same short shorts and such.
But yeah not about the boobs anymore for my generation. It truly is about booty now. I've seen so many girls especially teenagers wear really tight shorts nowadays. But then again I see guys wear tight jeans too. Everything is too tight lol
Permanut
(5,608 posts)Never went there because I didn't think owl sounded very good. Wink wink nudge nudge.
Yavin4
(35,438 posts)Unless its large chicken breasts.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,340 posts)Breasts? Food? Let me think ...
randr
(12,412 posts)and they recognize sexual explortation when they see it.
I also think they love boobs as much as any other group
jalan48
(13,865 posts)Xolodno
(6,395 posts)...it's far more simplistic. Market Saturation. There is just way too damn many of them. Where I'm at, you go to one and there is another no more than 30 minutes. Then you have competitors such as Tilted Kilt...and well...they all do the "Sports Bar" routine, so, very little to differentiate other than the menu...but at the end of the day, it's all "bar food".
Sometimes I think Playboy should reopen its clubs, include a fine dining restaurant, etc. and I think they could find a whole new market.
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)And thats just the straight girls: the boys are even worse. I cant imagine that any other generations woke up one day and said, Golly! I no longer find bosoms appealing! Perhaps I shall dine at an alternative establishment...
What I hope is happening is that the younger generation is no longer totally blatant and completely shameless about objectifying women (or men, for that matter). Its one thing to find people and their parts attractive; its totally different to go out of ones way to look at them. I seriously doubt porn has anything to do with it, as it was literally the first fine art created (on cave walls, by women, no less, because people have always enjoyed doing the dirty, even though they always seem to leave it out of the history books).
When I was younger I loved going to the nudie bars. I grew up in Vegas, so theres a lot of nudie bars. The last few times I went were for other peoples bachelor parties. It was just kind of sad. Lots of lonely men paying pretty women to pretend to be their friend. Sit in the back of one of those places sometime and really watch the whole scene and not the naked ladies: its really kind of depressing.
The wings are actually pretty good, but Ive only ever been to Hooters a few times, and thats only because a former student is a waitress there and another is an assistant manager. Which sounds creepier than it is, I swear. My wife and I just get free food sometimes and catch up with former students.
The Genealogist
(4,723 posts)I've always assumed it is like TGI Fridays, but boobier. Is boobier a word? If it wasn't, it is now.
dameatball
(7,398 posts)USALiberal
(10,877 posts)underpants
(182,803 posts)bearsfootball516
(6,377 posts)And everything to do with the food sucks.
I don't care if the food is being served to me by a Victoria Secret angel, if the food doesn't taste good, I'm not going.
IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)Overpriced and shitty food.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,412 posts)maybe people just aren't into exploitation of female bodies so much anymore? Just a thought.
Aristus
(66,369 posts)Hooters just isn't as, excuse me, titillating for Millennials as it was for the pre-net generations.
As someone posted above, if I want to see breasts and butts, I can do that at home for free and with better food. (I've never been to Hooters. But I hear things...)
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Lunch and dinner. They do huge business. The Wing House next to it stays packed as well.
One thing both have in common... It seems millenials don't have an issue wearing the Hooters or Wing House uni's.