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Stonekettle thread on possible private army for Don the Con. (Original Post) sinkingfeeling Aug 2018 OP
Random, anonymous twitter user tweets something. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2018 #1
It's linking an NBC story, and this is GD, not LBN and that Tweeter is pretty well known: bettyellen Aug 2018 #3
No check mark unverified user. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2018 #14
"Totally not news" is not mentioning news.... okay then, I guess the link to NBC isn't either. bettyellen Aug 2018 #16
I said I mentioned news, not LBN. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2018 #17
This was quite widespread news here late last week Roland99 Aug 2018 #6
Not random. Stonekettle is a well known and excellent blogger. nt tblue37 Aug 2018 #7
Yup Charlotte Little Aug 2018 #12
No check mark, unverified. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2018 #15
Um... Charlotte Little Aug 2018 #20
Stonekettle is the real deal nini Aug 2018 #9
Anonymous user is not real deal. nt Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2018 #13
The check mark is the worst way to know you can trust a Tweeter... bettyellen Aug 2018 #18
Actually, it's the only way to know they are who they say they are. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2018 #19
That's not how you know to trust the tweet though. Lots of check marked people are full of shit. bettyellen Aug 2018 #21
So why post his commentary instead of linking to the ACTUAL source? Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2018 #22
Because he takes the new report and marries it to other ones to give fuller context? bettyellen Aug 2018 #26
Anonymous sources are unreliable. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2018 #27
They are basically commenters and editors- not sources at all. bettyellen Aug 2018 #28
I understand Twitter fully. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2018 #29
No kidding, there are tons of fake accounts. And lots of bad info coming from those w check marks bettyellen Aug 2018 #30
Not saying that a check mark doesn't mean bad info... Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2018 #31
If you're talking about new stories, sure I agree. But the Tweet in the OP bettyellen Aug 2018 #32
The Question I Want Answered From That Thread Is Me. Aug 2018 #2
Eric Prince has his ear about privitizing forces in Afghanistan. brush Aug 2018 #4
With Erik visiting DC a couple months ago, this is feasible. "Draw me up some plans, Erik!" Frustratedlady Aug 2018 #5
Remove the "mobile." Part of the tweet link to get this: tblue37 Aug 2018 #8
Thanks. That's neat. sinkingfeeling Aug 2018 #10
Just sit back in your comfy easy chair,.... magicarpet Aug 2018 #11
The Private Army would START in Afghanistan. no_hypocrisy Aug 2018 #23
Fuck his Dic aspirations. Cha Aug 2018 #24
Very disturbing ck4829 Aug 2018 #25
 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
3. It's linking an NBC story, and this is GD, not LBN and that Tweeter is pretty well known:
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 05:35 PM
Aug 2018

So you’re 3/3, doc!

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
14. No check mark unverified user.
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 08:30 PM
Aug 2018

Never mentioned LBN, mentioned news. Hey, you wanna follow anonymous, unverified people, have at it.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
17. I said I mentioned news, not LBN.
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 08:38 PM
Aug 2018

I am discrediting an anonymous Twitter user as being a serious source of anything.

Charlotte Little

(658 posts)
12. Yup
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 07:07 PM
Aug 2018

His name is Jim Wright. Doesn't hide that fact. So, he's not anonymous. He scares me to death, but I follow him and agree with him on just about everything.

nini

(16,672 posts)
9. Stonekettle is the real deal
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 05:43 PM
Aug 2018

He isn't the type to post crap.

If you're going to knock him at least find out what he's about first.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
18. The check mark is the worst way to know you can trust a Tweeter...
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 08:41 PM
Aug 2018

Tons of people w check marks are full of shit. That’s not how it works at all.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
19. Actually, it's the only way to know they are who they say they are.
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 08:45 PM
Aug 2018

Without the check, they can claim to be whoever/whatever they want.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
21. That's not how you know to trust the tweet though. Lots of check marked people are full of shit.
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 09:44 PM
Aug 2018

The one you’re picking on just posted a story from NBC and you think they’re unreliable. If you’re judge of by check marks- you’re misinformed. That’s not how it works.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
22. So why post his commentary instead of linking to the ACTUAL source?
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 09:56 PM
Aug 2018

Tons of anonymous Tweeters are being flung around DU with commentary or other bullshit as if they were truth-tellers.

Anonymous twitter is NOT a legitimate source of news, and mostly not a legitimate source of “expert opinion”.

A check mark means the person is who they say they are. If they are anonymous trying to make claims or informed commentary, then their opinion should have no more weight than a comment on a YouTube video.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
26. Because he takes the new report and marries it to other ones to give fuller context?
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 07:16 PM
Aug 2018

And it’s often good to remind people of these things so they will make the connections clear. With so many scandals churning its never been harder to keep track of them all and find connections.

I don’t know who Poppin Kream on Reddit is, but he’s a similar (but even better) resource who strings together stories about the Trump Admin. He’s also got a good reputation and no check mark.

People crosscheck and evaluate what’s out there because so many people who do openly ID themselves are happy to lie to us and or just be a megaphone for WH bullshit. Check marks don’t begin to cut it anymore.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
28. They are basically commenters and editors- not sources at all.
Tue Aug 21, 2018, 01:53 PM
Aug 2018

That’s a bizarre accusation as the Tweets in question don’t claim to have any news scoops at all. Especially since a lot of well known journalists - check marks and all- still basically function as Trump’s stenographers on Twitter.
I’m going to guess you didn’t even read the Tweet in question, it’s clear you’re making lots of assumptions about them, and Twitter in general.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
29. I understand Twitter fully.
Tue Aug 21, 2018, 01:57 PM
Aug 2018

Easy to make fake accounts and string the gullible along.

I also read the tweet, and the accompanying article. But I will not trust an unverified Twitter account. Neither should you.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
30. No kidding, there are tons of fake accounts. And lots of bad info coming from those w check marks
Tue Aug 21, 2018, 02:03 PM
Aug 2018

Which sucks because some people give the check marked people credence when they deserve none. That’s what’s gullible.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
31. Not saying that a check mark doesn't mean bad info...
Tue Aug 21, 2018, 02:09 PM
Aug 2018

It just means the person is who they say they are. Donald Trump is a verified user, and his account spews nothing but bullshit. Same with Louise Mensch. But you're unlikely to get bullshit from, say, Don Lemon's or Stephen Colbert's verified accounts.

Without a check, anyone can make claim to be whoever they want. Which makes their credentials suspect. Like the one recently who both Mensch and Taylor were promoting and turned out to be nothing more than a pro-Trump gamer, making up bullshit. Their tweets were posted here regularly.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
32. If you're talking about new stories, sure I agree. But the Tweet in the OP
Tue Aug 21, 2018, 03:19 PM
Aug 2018

And many many more on Twitter are not. Like here they’re compilations w a bit of editorial thrown in.
He’s not exactly Poppin Kream (check out post on thread below) but Twitter doesn’t allow for all that much content.

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/986pmt/gop_fundraiser_broidy_under_investigation_for/e4ds2q0/

Me.

(35,454 posts)
2. The Question I Want Answered From That Thread Is
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 04:53 PM
Aug 2018

Can he do this without Congress and the Pentagon having a say?

brush

(53,778 posts)
4. Eric Prince has his ear about privitizing forces in Afghanistan.
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 05:37 PM
Aug 2018

Once trump has a private army it's only a matter of time before it will be deployed within the country.

Get out and vote in November.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
5. With Erik visiting DC a couple months ago, this is feasible. "Draw me up some plans, Erik!"
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 05:37 PM
Aug 2018

This makes his enormous funding of $716B and $700+B to the military (which said they don't need it) more clear. His Space Force more clear...his enormous plane order more clear. I imagine some of that money will also go for new uniforms of his design and color, just as he wants AF1 painted his color.

We used to have the luxury of saying, "Oh, don't be silly...someone is putting you on," whenever we heard stuff like this, but not with this president. I swear he lies awake at night dreaming up ways to make us squirm.

magicarpet

(14,150 posts)
11. Just sit back in your comfy easy chair,....
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 06:42 PM
Aug 2018

.... put it back in the recline position, lay back and close your eyes,.. and let the warm Fascism wash over you as it lulls you into your comfort zone.

As we assume a leadership role and take over international and domestic Pentagon programs and military bases to privatize your war department to drastically cut costs and attain far better results. Be happy don't worry - put all your trust in us.

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(The above advertisement brought to you by the Erik Prince - new and improved - Green Water Mercenary Death Squads and Privatized US War & Military Department.
Now listed on the New York, Jerusalem, London, Berlin, Moscow, and Beijing Stock Exchanges.)

no_hypocrisy

(46,104 posts)
23. The Private Army would START in Afghanistan.
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 07:07 AM
Aug 2018

I would not welcome Erik Prince and his "Merry Band" in my town.

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