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(28,817 posts)Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)This is infinity times worse!
GOTV!
ADX
(1,622 posts)...and Watergate was BAD...
Rhiannon12866
(205,383 posts)Link to tweet
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Hamlette
(15,412 posts)In many ways this is worse, but it rhymes.
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)Remember how Nixon came to resign.
Senator Barry Goldwater (R-AZ) met privately with Nixon and told him that the Republicans in the Senate had "no confidence" in him and would not support him. It wasn't too long after that that Nixon chose to resign.
Sadly, there is no one in the Senate with the backbone or the love of country to confront this treasonous toad today. They have sold this country out and are wiping their asses with The Constitution.
VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTER VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE
olegramps
(8,200 posts)brush
(53,778 posts)The entire Republican Party back then had many who clearly saw that Nixon had to go.
Most of these weasel repugs today are complicit with the trump/Putin administration and afraid they will be exposed also if trump goes down.
Hamlette
(15,412 posts)And while Goldwater did go to Nixon and tell him to resign, it was 2 days before the resignation and after the tapes came out. Up to that point, there was no republican support for getting rid of Nixon. While as many as 7 republicans voted in committee to send one of the articles on impeachment to the floor, remember that was on July 27 and 30 1974, more than 2 years after the break in and days before he resigned. We would never get 7 votes now, hell, we probably couldn't get 1 with the evidence we know about
Between the vote and Goldwater's visit to Nixon, the smoking gun tape was released.
Had it not been for that tape, Goldwater would not have gone to Nixon and convinced him to resign. He would have filled out his term, IMHO.
If we've got such a tape, it could be that the GOP would do nothing. Certainly not so quickly. But without the tape, the GOP supported Nixon.
brush
(53,778 posts)Hamlette
(15,412 posts)It's like people going back and saying Flake and McCain and Corker and others said horrible things about Trump.
Baker asked that question one year before anyone did anything. It took another year plus for enough republicans to turn on Nixon to get rid of him.
Hamlette
(15,412 posts)nobody talked to Nixon before the tape was released.
Tape released on Aug 5, Nixon resigns on Aug 9. We need a tape. without it, Nixon would have finished his term.
Hope Mueller has something that good.
I will admit that in 1974 there were still moderate Republicans in Congress. That is no long true today. But there were not enough moderates to convict Nixon before the tape was released.
tikka
(762 posts)I don't see any of the rank and file saying or doing anything to stop this travesty. They are all complicit. Where is McCain? Unless he is comatose or incoherent, it is his sworn duty to protect the country and we have crickets.
yellowdogintexas
(22,252 posts)and many others from both parties who did the right thing.
I will never forget Senator Baker's famous question: "What did the President know and when did he know it? "
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)and we have made that corruption an major election plank.
And there is Incorruptible Mueller on the trail...and an election in mere weeks...worse, but not worse.
Gloom and doom...not for me!
pazzyanne
(6,556 posts)But after 17 months of trump flu this is much, much, much worse. I both and every day. Excuse me, I need to take an Alka-Seltzer.
TNNurse
(6,926 posts)compared to this felony. The GOP who control Congress are just as guilty as Trump and his band of criminals.
DoctorJoJo
(1,134 posts)Marcuse
(7,482 posts)The burglars were Russian, not Cuban, and they were not caught in time.
Mickju
(1,803 posts)So yes, I remember. This is much worse.
Persondem
(1,936 posts)for years, just like twitler. Nixon used Pink Sheets to smear opponents, was McCarthy's main henchman, said famously that "... if the president does it, it's not illegal." Yet he stilled played it like he was Ike's loyal VP who rolled up his shirt sleeves and worked his way to the top. And if Bobby hadn't been assassinated ... . That's a huge historical 'what if'. Also, the cynicism and distrust in government that led to Reagan, the Bushes and now trump started with Nixon so I am not inclined to let him off the hook so easily.
The thing is, the country knew EXACTLY who trump is and he still won so the corruption and incompetence can be spread far and wide from the GOP in DC, the trumpbots, the Russians, and the media who were far more bemused and less critical than they should have been. With Nixon, it was pretty much all him. Republicans still mostly had souls back then.
Yep, 98% agree, but as I said above ...
yellowdogintexas
(22,252 posts)He started the Southern Strategy, in cahoots with the DixieCrats and flipped the South (which LBJ had predicted when he signed the Civil Rights and Voting Rights acts.
He began the courtship of the religious right.
When Reagan came along he was able to play on fear in such a way as to not appear as cynical as he really was, and Reagan just finished off the decline which led to now.
It has been an extremely long con.
That huge historical "what if" of Bobby will haunt me until my dying day. In my mind, it is an even bigger "what if" than if JFK had lived.
Persondem
(1,936 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)We're talking treason, foreign agent, total corruption involving White House staff and Congressional Representatives, monetizing the Presidency for himself and his organization with no thought of the country, pushing Nazi ideology and incitement of violence, disrespect of all citizens but his supporters, calling some citizens animals and other subhuman names, and on and on.
pbmus
(12,422 posts)D_Master81
(1,822 posts)I wasnt born until 7 years after Nixon resigned, but from reading into it, it seems that what Nixon was heard conspiring on in the famous "Smoking Gun" tape, Trump has done out in the open on Twitter.
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Cha
(297,240 posts)long time now.
BlueJac
(7,838 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)there was no Fox News, no One America Network, no Sinclair Broadcasting, very little Right Wing radio and most newspapers were not owned by right wing billionaires. Scary how much the media has changed.
proglib217
(88 posts)It's the GOP rank and file membership, down to a man and woman.
olegramps
(8,200 posts)Reagan should have been impeached and driven from office. He was even worse than Nixon. People have forgotten the Beirut, Lebanon murder of our soldiers, the Irangate hostages and filthy traitors like Oliver North who is the darling of the Republican Party for his treason.
Nitram
(22,801 posts)LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,586 posts)suck the Soviet Union leader's dick, have so many scandals in the first year of his presidency, embarrass our country on a daily basis, and have a First Lady who quite likely isn't here illegally. (Remember the press conference we were promised that was supposed to settle the question? Still waiting..)
Yes, the Iran-Contra scandal was probably an impeachable offense, and Congress' inaction is inexcusable, but you never got the sense that the Republicans were actually on board with their president's actions, as you do with Trump.
Nitram
(22,801 posts)in public on so many occasions he will be nailed to the wall in the end.