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Do we have a prison suitable for holding a former pResident? (Original Post) LakeSuperiorView Aug 2018 OP
I hope it's one with a view of golf course VMA131Marine Aug 2018 #1
Guantanamo is very secure. marylandblue Aug 2018 #2
I agree duforsure Aug 2018 #20
Guantanamo is my second choice. tosh Aug 2018 #22
Build a Turbineguy Aug 2018 #3
Will his 2 sons, daughter and son-in-law ... CatMor Aug 2018 #4
John Gotti's cell at Marion quite suitable. Sneederbunk Aug 2018 #5
isnt it a death penalty? Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #6
Well, he wants private prisons. ooky Aug 2018 #7
No need. GeorgeGist Aug 2018 #8
No, but Vlad does Leghorn21 Aug 2018 #9
Spandau prison was pretty secure gratuitous Aug 2018 #10
There is a beautiful place in Russia that just opened up dalton99a Aug 2018 #11
Alcatraz. dchill Aug 2018 #12
it would take a miracle to get to that point, but if we did, it would be home confinement at best. unblock Aug 2018 #13
There are some people who really do think Trump is going to end up in prison. bearsfootball516 Aug 2018 #17
yeah i don't think they're thinking all the way through. unblock Aug 2018 #19
It's far from a zero chance. It's definitely a plausible scenario. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2018 #23
ADX Florence is fine. There are a couple other traitors there, RockRaven Aug 2018 #14
P-A-R-D-O-N-E-D HAB911 Aug 2018 #15
Mar-A-Gitmo lagomorph777 Aug 2018 #16
Several choices come to mind... Abu Ghraib, Gitmo, ICE detention centers, or procon Aug 2018 #18
USP Leavenworth. That's the place for him, NCjack Aug 2018 #21
I do n/t Timewas Aug 2018 #24

GeorgeGist

(25,319 posts)
8. No need.
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 11:05 AM
Aug 2018

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death 18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
10. Spandau prison was pretty secure
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 11:06 AM
Aug 2018

Though I think that was mostly due to the Soviets, who really knew how to lock up people. I don't think we can call on their expertise in this situation.

unblock

(52,196 posts)
13. it would take a miracle to get to that point, but if we did, it would be home confinement at best.
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 11:15 AM
Aug 2018

i really can't see a scenario where he ends up in a real prison.

even if he's dead-to-rights on multiple felonies that pre-date and have nothing to do with his presidential campaign.

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
17. There are some people who really do think Trump is going to end up in prison.
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 11:37 AM
Aug 2018

Now, I’d love that. But reality is, it’s not happening. Like, there’s a zero percent chance that he will ever be behind bars.

unblock

(52,196 posts)
19. yeah i don't think they're thinking all the way through.
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 11:58 AM
Aug 2018

i think there's a fair chance that he'll actually stand trial (most likely post-presidency) and accept a plea deal that includes home confinement.

actually being behind bars? i don't think he'd accept any such plea, so that means a trial. lots of uncertainty and lots of delays.

he can delay a *lot* while president, even if the supreme court eventually says a president can be tried while still president. he can always claim important business to interfere with the court schedule. maybe he gets impeached in 2019, but even so, the trial might not start until 2020. if not it might easily be 2021.

once he's out of office, it serves him to play up adverse medical conditions. he'd old, out of shape, and gosh being president takes a toll. when it comes to negotiating, staying out of prison is probably the top priority, so a plea that gives him home confinement is likely a "win" for donnie and any guilty plea is a "win" for prosecutors as well. keep in mind his remaining life expectancy is around 9 years, so big delays and playing up medical conditions make for a good argument against him going to actual prison.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,173 posts)
23. It's far from a zero chance. It's definitely a plausible scenario.
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 12:35 PM
Aug 2018

Whether it's likely is another matter. There are still a lot of hoops and contingencies--Trump getting indicted, Trump getting convicted, Trump not getting the benefit of a Ford-esqe pardon, Trump getting sentenced to incarceration, Trump not keeling over of a heart attack before it's all said and done, etc.

It's just too early to say how likely that will all play out. It's unprecedented here, but we've only had 45 presidencies to date so lots of things that happen with any president might be considered unprecedented. Before 1974, it was unprecedented that a President had ever voluntarily resigned his office, for example.

But if you want to look for a fully developed, democratic country that has just recently sent its former leader away to prison, look no further than South Korea. Just as an example.

There are some things that are frequently bandied around here at DU that are simply not going to happen. Like nullifying the 2016 election and installing Hillary. Love it, but it's not going to happen. Or nullifying all judges that Trump appoints. Again, not going to happen.

But the idea that Trump could potentially face prison time, while still a long ways off and extremely speculative at the moment, is an actual possibility.


RockRaven

(14,959 posts)
14. ADX Florence is fine. There are a couple other traitors there,
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 11:27 AM
Aug 2018

like Robert Hanssen. Some organized crime people too. Trump will fit right in.

procon

(15,805 posts)
18. Several choices come to mind... Abu Ghraib, Gitmo, ICE detention centers, or
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 11:54 AM
Aug 2018

maybe Sheriff Joe's Tent Prison in Arizona has a vacancy.

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