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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDo we have a prison suitable for holding a former pResident?
I'd imagine that he would have to be in isolation...
Does he lose Secret Service protection if convicted?
VMA131Marine
(4,138 posts)Just a view.
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)duforsure
(11,885 posts)tosh
(4,423 posts)Devils Island (aka Cayenne) would be my first.
Turbineguy
(37,319 posts)Chateau d'If.
CatMor
(6,212 posts)be in the same prison?
Sneederbunk
(14,290 posts)Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)for the head of the military to betray his country to the enemy?
ooky
(8,922 posts)He should get to eat his own fruit.
GeorgeGist
(25,319 posts)Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death 18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason
Leghorn21
(13,524 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Though I think that was mostly due to the Soviets, who really knew how to lock up people. I don't think we can call on their expertise in this situation.
dalton99a
(81,451 posts)dchill
(38,472 posts)unblock
(52,196 posts)i really can't see a scenario where he ends up in a real prison.
even if he's dead-to-rights on multiple felonies that pre-date and have nothing to do with his presidential campaign.
bearsfootball516
(6,377 posts)Now, Id love that. But reality is, its not happening. Like, theres a zero percent chance that he will ever be behind bars.
unblock
(52,196 posts)i think there's a fair chance that he'll actually stand trial (most likely post-presidency) and accept a plea deal that includes home confinement.
actually being behind bars? i don't think he'd accept any such plea, so that means a trial. lots of uncertainty and lots of delays.
he can delay a *lot* while president, even if the supreme court eventually says a president can be tried while still president. he can always claim important business to interfere with the court schedule. maybe he gets impeached in 2019, but even so, the trial might not start until 2020. if not it might easily be 2021.
once he's out of office, it serves him to play up adverse medical conditions. he'd old, out of shape, and gosh being president takes a toll. when it comes to negotiating, staying out of prison is probably the top priority, so a plea that gives him home confinement is likely a "win" for donnie and any guilty plea is a "win" for prosecutors as well. keep in mind his remaining life expectancy is around 9 years, so big delays and playing up medical conditions make for a good argument against him going to actual prison.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,173 posts)Whether it's likely is another matter. There are still a lot of hoops and contingencies--Trump getting indicted, Trump getting convicted, Trump not getting the benefit of a Ford-esqe pardon, Trump getting sentenced to incarceration, Trump not keeling over of a heart attack before it's all said and done, etc.
It's just too early to say how likely that will all play out. It's unprecedented here, but we've only had 45 presidencies to date so lots of things that happen with any president might be considered unprecedented. Before 1974, it was unprecedented that a President had ever voluntarily resigned his office, for example.
But if you want to look for a fully developed, democratic country that has just recently sent its former leader away to prison, look no further than South Korea. Just as an example.
There are some things that are frequently bandied around here at DU that are simply not going to happen. Like nullifying the 2016 election and installing Hillary. Love it, but it's not going to happen. Or nullifying all judges that Trump appoints. Again, not going to happen.
But the idea that Trump could potentially face prison time, while still a long ways off and extremely speculative at the moment, is an actual possibility.
RockRaven
(14,959 posts)like Robert Hanssen. Some organized crime people too. Trump will fit right in.
HAB911
(8,880 posts)we'll never see a president in an orange jumpsuit
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)procon
(15,805 posts)maybe Sheriff Joe's Tent Prison in Arizona has a vacancy.
NCjack
(10,279 posts)since he is holds the rank of commander-in-chief.