Do we have confirmation that the killer of Mollie Tibbetts is a legal immigrant, yet?

[Baitball Blogger]

On MSNBC it appears that they haven't found documents to confirm the lawyer's claim.

[fleur-de-lisa]

1. The story flipped back and forth yesterday.

The latest is that the killer is undocumented and used a fake ID when he was hired:

https://6abc.com/mollie-tibbetts-murder-what-we-know-about-the-suspect/4021710/

"The U.S. Department of Homeland Security says Rivera is undocumented and has been living in the United States between 4 and 7 years.

Rivera's employer, Yarrabee Farms, said it had no idea Rivera was an undocumented immigrant because he provided them with a different name when he was hired and vetted. He had worked for the farm for four years and "was an employee in good standing," the company said in a statement."

[exboyfil]

2. Latest story is that he came into the country

as a minor and used false documents to secure his job.

The thing I don't understand about the EVerify system is why it can't track multiple uses of the same SSN or match the SSN to death records if the individual is dead. Are these fake SSNs which are being generated? Is no one looking because the money ends up in the SSN Trust Fund and is used for ongoing payments?

[Tiggeroshii]

4. If it does none of those things...

What's the point of everify*(pardon autocorrect), honestly?

[exboyfil]

5. Remove liability for the employer

is my guess. Yes I checked so there. Also the SSN payments without the liability associated with them is an incentive. Of course employers know what is really going on, and they hold it over the employee when defining salary and working conditions.

[Tiggeroshii]

8. Thank you!

Very interesting...

[SoCalNative]

10. Apparently the employer in question

does not use the eVerify system

[mythology]

12. Because it gives the appearance of doing something without actually doing something

[WillowTree]

3. That's not likely to be confirmed one way or another for awhile yet.

I'm guessing that the lawyer's basing his statement on the fact that the guy had passed an e-Verify check, but that's hardly dispositive. If the guy's legal, he should be in possession of paperwork documenting same and I haven't heard any claim that such paperwork can be produced.

But all that's supposition at this point.

[LisaL]

17. He didn't pass e-verify check.

The company wasn't actually using e-verify.

[HopeAgain]

6. It's only one murder regardless

Every time I hear them talking about this, I talk about the slaughter in Las Vegas, MSD, and etc., perpetrated by citizens. We should not argue about this one guy's status, but rather the overall statistics.

Republicans controlling the dialogue again.

[ScratchCat]

9. Exactly

On average, 50 people are murdered every day in the United States.

Exploiting the death of one is sick, whether done by the right or left.

[still_one]

7. Was Dylan Roof and most criminal acts of murder and other criminal acts committed by undocumented

persons in the U.S.



immmmmmm, NO!!!!!!!!

and that is pro-rating . There is no comparison

Racist f**ks

[Cicada]

11. It is irrelevant

Illegals lower the crime rate, they make us safer. About two Americans are murdered each week by illegals. About 40 to 45 are murdered every day by those born in the US. Many studies using different methods prove illegals are about 60% less likely to harm others by murder etc. they lower the crime rate. They make it less likely that we will be the victim of a crime. There have been nuns convicted of murder. But if a million nuns move to your town you will be safer. Even tho the number of murders will go up. But if the news reported every day about a crime committed by a nun we would think nuns are criminal maniacs. What is on TV is not the same thing as reality.

[MichMary]

14. Except

that this case isn't about a theoretical. This is about an actual person, who would still be alive if the undocumented immigrant who killed her hadn't been here.

[Cicada]

15. what matters are the odds we will be a victim, not the total number of victims

In a town of one million native born and one million nun immigrants a newly born child has one chance in 10,000 of dying by murder. In a town of only one million native born a newly born child has one chance in 5001 of dying by murder. In the town with nuns there will be someone murdered by a nun. But that does not mean nuns should be banned from moving here.

I know it is a hard argument to make when we see a nun with a smoking gun standing over a dead college student but it is a sound argument. We will see a dead student only half as often in nun town, on a per capita basis.

[Iggo]

13. Doesn't matter.

[LisaL]

16. No.

We don't.

[oberliner]

18. He is undocumented

[Raine]

19. He's not

legal, he either used someone else's papers or had fake ones.