Cops: Unhappy patron kills three at Alabama strip club

[bemildred]

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Three people were shot and killed and another injured by a dissatisfied patron of a strip club in Alabama late Thursday, police say.

Houston County Sheriff Andy Hughes told NBC News the shooting happened at Teasers, a topless nightclub outside of Dothan, Ala.

Police arrested the alleged shooter, Ryan Clark Petersen, 22, at 7:30 a.m. CT and charged him with three counts of capital murder and one count of attempted murder.

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Hughes said that a dispute erupted in the club after Petersen complained about a dancer's performance and began touching her. A club employee asked Petersen to leave and escorted him outside. Petersen then allegedly went to his car and retrieved a handgun and reentered the night club and opened fire.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/10/13218255-cops-unhappy-patron-kills-three-at-alabama-strip-club

[Skittles]

1. but...but....we are a country "based on guns"

we have to EXPECT little episodes like this!

[RobertEarl]

7. The kid was not

..... trying to be a good kid. Sure wasn't trying to be like Jesus, that's for sure. I guess he was emulating more someone like Bush or Cheney?

[malaise]

11. Ding ding we have a winner

No biggle.

[Hoyt]

31. +1

[bongbong]

33. I agree

with one small alteration; change "little" to "lotsa".

[onehandle]

2. Cue the Rightist excuse makers to defend their idol. nt

[SheilaT]

3. Now, killing people is never an appropriate response

to poor service, or dissatisfaction with same. Still, there's something almost hearteningly American about this story.

And yes, I'm being ironic.

[JohnnyRingo]

4. I wonder if he'll be allowed back in now.

I've been in bars where someone gets tossed for their behavior, and they often heatedly argue the point. I don't understand what they think the outcome will be. Why would they want to be somewhere they so clearly aren't welcome?

This is a gang mentality where an idiot shoots someone who dissed him to protect his honor and reputation. Now he'll have a lame story to tell in the exercise yard after someone asks "what are you in for?". I have a feeling his problems with respect and peer acceptance are just beginning.

It's a shame he had to hurt so many families just to prove what a dumbass he is.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

6. He was defending his family valooos and felt threatened.

[freshwest]

13. More like defending the family jewels. He needs to be neutered.

[nichomachus]

14. There's the solution

Use a gun illegally -- get castrated.

Sounds like a good idea -- guns would be selling for 50 cents on Craigslist as people tried to get rid of them. It wold probably bring gun violence down to close to zero.

[Lurks Often]

19. It would be ruled cruel and unusual punishment,

but I suspect you'd see a rather dramatic drop in crime

[nichomachus]

21. The right wingers seem to revel in cruel and unusual n/t

[freshwest]

28. Wasn't referring to the gun, but he was working hard on going phallic.

I don't approve of multilating anyone. But he needs to learn to dull or curb his appetite, thus neuter.

[Major Nikon]

18. Naturallly he'll be able to use the 'stand your ground' (shoot first) defense

Thanks to NRA and ALEC

[Equate]

22. Maybe you'd like to explain

how he can use SYG?
He wasn't being threatened, he was escorted out, he went to his car and retrieved a gun and re-entered the establishment and shot and murdered 3 people. That's 1st degree murder, not self defense so I find your claim to SYG a little troubling.

[bongbong]

29. It's almost as bad as that little case in Florida

Where the cold-blooded murderer Zimmerman is using SYG as a "defense".

[Equate]

34. It's not almost as bad

it's just as bad. This guy was not threatened in any way, he was escorted out, all he had to do was get in his car and leave and we wouldn't even been talking about this, instead, he went to his car, retrieved a gun, went back into the establishment and murdered 3 people in cold blood.
Clearly no SYG defense here, just 1st degree murder which I don't think the DA will have any problem proving, and I hope to hell there is no plea bargain.

I don't think Zman's claim of SYG is going to work, at least, I hope not.

[Major Nikon]

30. In a sane world it would be 1st degree murder

In a post NRA world, not so much and this is especially true in the south.

Not only would this not be the first time someone has used the SYG defense in a bar shooting, it wouldn't be the first time someone had SUCCESSFULLY used the SYG defense in a bar shooting.

That's all I have to say about it in the Lounge. If you want to debate the subject further, I'd advise a trip to the gungeon. I'm sure there's plenty of folks willing to go ad nauseum on the question.

[bongbong]

35. The Gungeon

> If you want to debate the subject further, I'd advise a trip to the gungeon.

Correction: The gungeon doesn't feature "debate", instead 95% of the posts are either:

1) Strawmen Construction Projects by gun-relgionists, followed by congratulating each other for how wacky those Liberal "gun-grabbers" are, or

2) NRA Talking Point recitation; debunking of said Talking Points doesn't stop their posting and re-posting dozens or hundreds of times.

[Equate]

36. And I'm betting that those cases involved someone who hadn't been booted out

this guy had been trespassed off the property, he returned, so he was breaking the law when he returned which nullifies the SYG defense.
He will be charged with 3 counts of 1st degree murder and spend the rest of his miserable and wasted life in prison if he doesn't get the DP.

[TeamPooka]

5. If they only had a concealed carry law he could have saved time and shot then right away...

instead of having to go all the way out to his car and back.

[TheCowsCameHome]

9. Yep. He could've been mugged, fer Chrissakes........

[bemildred]

10. +1.

Yep, there's the main difference, no need to go get the gun from somewhere else when you get angry.

[uponit7771]

15. +1

[TheCowsCameHome]

8. Ol' Ryan sure knows how to get his way.

Isn't it great living in such a civilized society?

[Electric Monk]

12. He was just defending his constitutional right to grope peelers

[Remmah2]

17. I think they were bare arms...........

etc..........

[nichomachus]

16. "Unhappy patron" -- do ya think

"Patron kills three" kind of implies unhappy

[Zax2me]

20. Enjoy your life in prison 22 year old murderer.

Idiot.

[nichomachus]

24. He's charged with capital murder

So, he could get the death penalty.

The fact that he went outside, got a weapon, and came back in shows intent.

[Evasporque]

23. Republicans are drafting a "Disrespect Doctrine"

Allowing anyone disrespected to escalate the situation and use deadly force to retaliate to the disrespect.

[nichomachus]

27. Or the "Titty Defense"

The claim that seeing naked breasts drove him temporarily insane. It's a variation on the "Gay Panic" defense.

[bongbong]

25. Why not more guns there?

Strip joints can be made very safe by requiring all the workers to carry around big guns whilst they take off their clothes.

The downside is that gun-relgionists will descend on these places in droves, as the sight of women cradling their Precious (guns) will turn the religious types on like nothing else.

[Hoyt]

32. Got that right.

[Evasporque]

26. Republicans are drafting a "Customer is always Right Doctrine"

Allowing customers to use deadly force if a disagreement arises about goods or services rendered.

[MADem]

37. What is it about the name PETERSEN/PETERSON?

It seems to be a popular name for criminals, lately....

Scott Peterson....Drew Peterson...Michael Peterson....Thomas Petersen....they were all wife killers...

Najwa Petersen, she killed her husband....

I once worked with a total asshole with that last name.

It's an effort to push down feelings of bias when I meet someone with that name--common as it is, it seems to invite trouble!!!

[StrictlyRockers]

38. "This is my rifle, this is my gun."

"One is for fighting, one is for fun."

Alabama...sheesh. I'm so glad I don't live in some gun-nut red state. "Find the cost of freedom buried in the ground"??? When do the gun nuts wake up to the realities we face? Death can interfere with one's civil liberties, too.

[bongbong]

39. It takes 1/10 of a second

To have gun-religionists move somebody from the column of "Brother Proud 2nd Amendment Defender" into the category of "Evil Criminals We Want To Distance Ourselves As Far As We Can"

Talk about disloyalty!

[Tom Ripley]

40. If only the stripper had been packing a gun in her g-string...(n/t)

[Motown_Johnny]

41. Instead of joking about this we should all focus on the fact

that the guy without a gun was escorted out and it wasn't a big deal.

The same guy with a gun killed three.

The variable here is the gun.

[tiny elvis]

42. i wish you could have posted first instead of forty first

our allotted time to discuss the latest massacre is short

hulk not so big without gun

[UnrepentantLiberal]

43. Please repost in the Gun Control & RKBA Group.

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