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babylonsister

(172,759 posts)
Sat Aug 25, 2018, 09:12 PM Aug 2018

Al Franken on John McCain's passing

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I met John for the first time when he gave a eulogy for a mutual friend in 1994. The friend, David Ifshin, had been an anti-war protester during Vietnam and had gone to North Vietnam with Jane Fonda. Radio Hanoi blasted Ifshin’s and Fonda’s denunciations of our involvement in the war, and John got to listen to it from his cell at the Hanoi Hilton.

Years later, Ifshin was legal counsel for Walter Mondale’s 1984 presidential campaign. McCain, a House member at the time, blasted Mondale for having this despicable guy on his campaign. Ifshin came to the Hill, went to McCain’s office and apologized to him. McCain said, “No, I should apologize. You’re an American and were exercising your First Amendment rights.” The two became good friends and worked together to normalize relations between the U.S. and Vietnam.

This is a pretty typical John McCain story. First, he gets mad at you and then works with you to get something done. John yelled at me after I cast my first vote in the Senate. It was a McCain amendment on a Defense Appropriations Bill that would have cut anti-terrorist funding to bus lines. I had no idea how to vote, but I figured terrorists might want to target a bus at some time or other. I voted “aye,” and John, standing in the well, yelled at me, “So this is what your Senate career is going to be about!? Voting for pork!”

Soon after we worked together on reimportation of prescription drugs. We both live in border states and know how absurd it is for Americans to have to cross the border to get the exact same American manufactured drugs for a fraction of the cost.

Unfortunately, neither of us will be there on the floor to see that become law.

In 2014, Harry Reid persuaded John to tell the whole story of his captivity in Vietnam at a bipartisan lunch. It’s the first time he had talked about those five terrible years to his colleagues, and it was unbelievably moving for all of us. Later that afternoon, we had votes and I went up to him on the floor. “John, that was amazing today at lunch. Thank you for telling your story.”

John smiled modestly and nodded, “Thank you, Al.”

“Now, how much of it was actually true?” I asked. John grinned that big grin of his and laughed.

Our last conversation was during a series of late night votes before he went home to Arizona. He was very sick from the treatments for the cancer, but holding court, giving off love, smiles, and good humor from his wheelchair.

A man of amazing courage. A man who knew the meaning of honor and lived it. A true patriot.


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Al Franken on John McCain's passing (Original Post) babylonsister Aug 2018 OP
Thank you! n/t Delphinus Aug 2018 #1
That's how a real human being salutes a fellow traveler. nolabear Aug 2018 #2
Like Obama's tribute... Bayard Aug 2018 #3
Rest In Peace John Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #4
class Kali Aug 2018 #5
Al Franken Is a patriot fallout87 Aug 2018 #6
A classic tribute by a man of class to another man of class question everything Aug 2018 #7
Class. Iliyah Aug 2018 #8
And I can tell you Rorey Aug 2018 #9
I've had the honor of knowing a few Patriots... Tucker08087 Aug 2018 #10
A great tribute. dalton99a Aug 2018 #11
Touching human stories told with respect and honor. KY_EnviroGuy Aug 2018 #12
Great stories, and a great tribute by one of my favorite Democrats. Thanks, Al. Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #13
Post removed Post removed Aug 2018 #14
What a wonderful tribute. Love Al. n/t BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2018 #15
Class Hekate Aug 2018 #16
A deeply moving tribute to one truly American Original from Another stuffmatters Aug 2018 #17
He needs to find a way to move forward and back into the fold. nt joet67 Aug 2018 #18
Well said by one true leader about another true leader. democratisphere Aug 2018 #19
Guys like these - Franken and McCain - are the types who bring out the best in people. calimary Aug 2018 #20
K & R! LAS14 Aug 2018 #21
We need Franken back in the Senate HelenWheels Aug 2018 #22
Al Franken is SUCH a class act. trof Aug 2018 #23
We need Al back in the Senate, now more than ever. TheCowsCameHome Aug 2018 #24
i sure miss al samnsara Aug 2018 #25
Thank-you! I read this earlier and passed it on to... Guilded Lilly Aug 2018 #26
Substantial and platitude-free BeyondGeography Aug 2018 #27
Al Franken belongs in public service. sarcasmo Aug 2018 #28

Uncle Joe

(65,134 posts)
4. Rest In Peace John
Sat Aug 25, 2018, 10:01 PM
Aug 2018



Peace, strength and healing to the McCain family.



Thanks for the thread babylonsister.

Rorey

(8,514 posts)
9. And I can tell you
Sat Aug 25, 2018, 10:42 PM
Aug 2018

These are the kinds of condolences that are of comfort to those who have lost a loved one. Al Franken, President Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, George W. Bush - all class acts at a time like this.

When I have lost loved ones, it touched my heart to read condolences that said WHY my loved one mattered. I read them over and over, many times long after the death.

And then there's -45. As someone said in response to his brief basically thoughtless tweet, who the hell uses an exclamation point when expressing condolences?

Tucker08087

(622 posts)
10. I've had the honor of knowing a few Patriots...
Sat Aug 25, 2018, 10:46 PM
Aug 2018

Generally parents of students stationed at or living close to nearby bases. They are selfless patriots. Couples who both serve with young children at home. I can’t comprehend the sacrifice of the entire family, but I thank each one for their honor and bravery.
I thank John McCain tonight, for his service to our country and for putting honor and patriotism above all else. May be not Rest In Peace, but dance with angels.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,782 posts)
12. Touching human stories told with respect and honor.
Sat Aug 25, 2018, 11:50 PM
Aug 2018

Thank you Al, you're another fine gentleman in our midst....... .......

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
13. Great stories, and a great tribute by one of my favorite Democrats. Thanks, Al.
Sun Aug 26, 2018, 12:48 AM
Aug 2018

He was an honorable man, and of course, a true hero and a man who loved his country and its citizens.

Response to babylonsister (Original post)

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
19. Well said by one true leader about another true leader.
Sun Aug 26, 2018, 04:58 AM
Aug 2018

Rest in Peace John McCain. The World has lost an important voice of reason and sanity.

calimary

(90,017 posts)
20. Guys like these - Franken and McCain - are the types who bring out the best in people.
Sun Aug 26, 2018, 12:53 PM
Aug 2018

UNLIKE a certain orange Russian Asset whose only mission in life seems to be to deceive in order to get his way.

I swear - the comparisons, which will come in tidal waves throughout this media mourning period for Senator McCain, may well jolt a few people awake on that side of the aisle. Whether they're Capitol Hill colleagues or voters out there in DeplorableLand. It's got to happen with at least a few.

While we mourn John McCain, it can't help but become obvious, even while unspoken, what a glaring and even painful contrast the John McCain story is - with that of donald trump. I can't help but suspect that it will get to at least a few of trump's hard-cores, who will actually be reminded of what REAL greatness in our public officials - AND honesty, also, is.

Guilded Lilly

(5,591 posts)
26. Thank-you! I read this earlier and passed it on to...
Sun Aug 26, 2018, 09:29 PM
Aug 2018

all my loyal Al Franken friends.
He got right to the soul of the man.

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