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FSogol

(45,470 posts)
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 08:32 AM Aug 2018

This simple solution to smartphone addiction is now used in over 600 U.S. schools

Graham Dugoni was at a music festival in San Francisco in 2012 when he witnessed something that disturbed him. A man was dancing, uninhibited, perhaps drunk, losing himself in the moment. Some strangers thought it was funny, so they filmed it and uploaded it to YouTube.

It’s the kind of thing that happens a thousand times a day. But it bothered Dugoni. Traditionally, as he saw it, people at such festivals would come together to commune, to share a collective feeling that those not present would never be able to participate in (see: Woodstock, 1969, or any Grateful Dead show from the 1960s to the 1990s). But now, everyone had a smartphone. You had to act cool. And that old group intimacy? It was gone.


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In the end, Dugoni wants people to ask themselves: What is the point of all those instantaneous texts, shares and likes?

“If you think of this phone as the ultimate expression of technological efficiency where things are easier, cheaper, faster all the time, I think it comes down to what are the limits of a purely efficiency-driven mode of life? What people really enjoy has nothing to do with efficiency. You can play a melody faster, but that doesn’t make sense. What does it mean to be more efficient in our social interactions? Is that something we want? Does that make sense at all?”


Good article by Tara Bahrampour from back in Feb in the Washington Post

The device discussed, by a company called Yondr, is a small, gray neoprene pouch. The phone is locked in and cannot be used until the end of the event. Comedian Dave Chappelle requires them at his shows and some courts and schools have begun using them.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/inspired-life/wp/2018/02/05/this-millennial-discovered-a-surprisingly-simple-solution-to-smartphone-addiction-schools-love-it/?utm_term=.8e9181351232
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This simple solution to smartphone addiction is now used in over 600 U.S. schools (Original Post) FSogol Aug 2018 OP
Let's hear it for the Luddites! Saboburns Aug 2018 #1
How Is This Luddite? ProfessorGAC Aug 2018 #2
The anti-cellphone brigade is tiresome Saboburns Aug 2018 #8
That Doesn't Make It Luddite ProfessorGAC Aug 2018 #9
Outdoor music festival lover! backtoblue Aug 2018 #3
maybe it will get boring at some point JI7 Aug 2018 #4
and the phone is more exciting? LOL. FSogol Aug 2018 #5
i was referring to the phone JI7 Aug 2018 #6
Sorry, yeah, I hope it does. There's a guy in our office who is attached to his phone like an FSogol Aug 2018 #7
The anecdote about the concert is so weird to me. This guy was mad that some people were WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2018 #10
The moment they were enjoying together was mocking someone. n/t FSogol Aug 2018 #11
His product didn't address the mocking. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2018 #12
They can still mock him, they just can't upload it so thousands can mock him too. n/t FSogol Aug 2018 #13
But this is written in a way that the mocking, the lack of "group intimacy," was the problem. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2018 #14
Stand by your convictions! Send us a video of your most embarrassing moment and we'll upload it FSogol Aug 2018 #15
Cell phones are simply a tool. If he doesn't like the way people use the tool, taking it away WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2018 #16
LOL, putting the phone away for a short perod of time equals taking away their phones? FSogol Aug 2018 #19
First of all, I've never espoused a "pro-phone at all times" theory. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2018 #24
Reminds me if gun control d_r Aug 2018 #20
Indeed. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2018 #21
This is a problem Skidmore Aug 2018 #17
We've all seen films of people dancing similarly at Woodstock. Were they WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2018 #18
Well, that's completely different. Mariana Aug 2018 #22
Yep. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2018 #23

ProfessorGAC

(64,988 posts)
2. How Is This Luddite?
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 08:39 AM
Aug 2018

A luddite perspective would reject the phone itself.

This is not doing any such thing.

Saboburns

(2,807 posts)
8. The anti-cellphone brigade is tiresome
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 09:22 AM
Aug 2018

"Look at all those people cell-phoning during the concert. I don't like it. I want all those cell-phoners to stop-cell-phoning and get in tune with one-another. Since I don't dig cell-phones or cell-phoning I'm gonna make it impossible to for anybody to cell-phone during the concert."

backtoblue

(11,343 posts)
3. Outdoor music festival lover!
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 08:43 AM
Aug 2018

The whole atmosphere at these events is the diversity and freedom that can be experienced between a big group of people.

I'm not sure that Pandora can be put back in the box though...

FSogol

(45,470 posts)
7. Sorry, yeah, I hope it does. There's a guy in our office who is attached to his phone like an
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 09:14 AM
Aug 2018

umbilicus.

Mrs FSogol and I see people on dates, starring at their phones, people taping concerts instead of watching concerts, and taking selfies instead of nice views. Chatting with a favorite author or celeb is fun, but taking a pic with them is kind of pointless. The phone addicted are really sad.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,316 posts)
10. The anecdote about the concert is so weird to me. This guy was mad that some people were
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 09:29 AM
Aug 2018

enjoying a moment together, but in a way he didn't like, and so he developed something to sell to others to prevent people from enjoying a moment together? Okay.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,316 posts)
14. But this is written in a way that the mocking, the lack of "group intimacy," was the problem.
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 09:49 AM
Aug 2018

The group had group intimacy. It just wasn't the kind that he liked.

I'm also tired of white affluent men who try to solve problems that don't exist and don't think through how their solutions might affect others.

FSogol

(45,470 posts)
15. Stand by your convictions! Send us a video of your most embarrassing moment and we'll upload it
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 09:53 AM
Aug 2018

to the internet forever and ever! C'mon, it is only fair. Sharing is caring, right?



WhiskeyGrinder

(22,316 posts)
16. Cell phones are simply a tool. If he doesn't like the way people use the tool, taking it away
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 09:56 AM
Aug 2018

doesn't seem like the best way to approach it. If he doesn't like mocking, why not use that effort for a push for better human relations? It makes less money, of course, soooo....

FSogol

(45,470 posts)
19. LOL, putting the phone away for a short perod of time equals taking away their phones?
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 10:17 AM
Aug 2018

Does your pro-phone at all times theory include locker rooms? You think someone should follow me and film me in the shower at the gym? You seriously have a problem with courts and schools putting phones away? If you can't last 1-1/2 hours without a phone, maybe skip the Chappelle show or a concert that doesn't allow them.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,316 posts)
24. First of all, I've never espoused a "pro-phone at all times" theory.
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 11:06 AM
Aug 2018

I want people to think about why they want phones taken away, and who that affects. I want people to think through what they imagine are solutions, and what problems they actually solve. I want people who use phones a certain way to truly understand how people use phones in different ways. Teachers can (and do!) manage phone use in their classroom without taking away everyone's at the beginning of class, or buying a fancy plastic bag.

Also, I want would-be entrebroneurs who think content must be consumed a certain way to truly enjoy and appreciate it to get over themselves.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
17. This is a problem
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 10:00 AM
Aug 2018

that does need to be addressed. These people's inclusion of a social media's audience in their "intimacy" may have broader, more damaging consequences. We have all read of those who were mercilessly mocked and bullied on social media that they have acted out violently or harmed themselves from being humiliated. How is it that such actions are acceptable to you? Would you participate in humiliating someone in this manner for a dysfunctional group intimacy?

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,316 posts)
18. We've all seen films of people dancing similarly at Woodstock. Were they
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 10:11 AM
Aug 2018

being mocked? Did they lose their privacy?

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