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by Tamar Auber | Aug 31st, 2018, 8:31 pm
On Friday, the Des Moines Register ran an editorial from First Son Donald Trump Jr. The title read, Democrats reaction to Mollie Tibbetts death is heartless, despicable.
In the article, Trump Jr. claimed Sen. Elizabeth Warren a frequent target of his POTUS dads jabs, apparently believes that illegal alien parents being separated from their children is a bigger problem than American parents having to bury theirs.
Here is an excerpt of what Trump Jr. wrote in the op-ed:
When asked about Mollies murder, Sen. Elizabeth Warren who is for some reason considered a leading contender for the Democrats 2020 ticket played down the killing and said the focus should be on the real problems of our immigration system, such as the separation of families at our border.
Think about that for a minute. She apparently believes that illegal alien parents being separated from their children is a bigger problem than American parents having to bury theirs.
The editors of the Register, however, did not allow Trump Jr.s claims to simply go unchecked. Instead, in an unusual move, they interjected this editors note, mid-column:
The editors likewise fact-checked other claims made by Trump Jr, writing at one point, Fact check: Here are the facts on immigrants committing crimes in US.
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https://www.mediaite.com/donald-trump/des-moines-register-runs-don-jr-article-fact-checks-him-mid-column/
shanny
(6,709 posts)I've never heard of editors doing that but what a powerful tool that is. Truth! Now if journalists in general would pursue a similar course, we might actually make some headway.
Squinch
(50,941 posts)Lonestarblue
(9,967 posts)Or acknowledge that something was released to the press and then explain why it is not being published. The state-sponsored propaganda needs to be countered at every opportunity and called out for its lies.
mountain grammy
(26,614 posts)jrthin
(4,835 posts)when someone says something false, correct it then. Don't allow the lie to travel.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,169 posts)that they plan to ask. With links to facts ready to go IF they get an alternative fact answer on a topic they will be discussing.
That or just an assistant with an ipad on Google sitting beside.
How many times have you pulled your hair out watching some CNN or even MSNBC pundit just sit there looking like a deer in headlights as some GOP or Trump apologist rattle off two...three...five...easily rebuffed lies in a row. Even if they say, "I don't know if that's true, but...." THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH! Because the Republican guest just says "It IS true!" and carries on with a couple more lies to add on. And any viewer, especially one less politically active or aware, sees it as a she said, he said, situation where no one is proved wrong.
Mc Mike
(9,114 posts)Squinch
(50,941 posts)Mc Mike
(9,114 posts)In Miller's Crossing.
lastlib
(23,204 posts)Weasels are noble beasts compared to the pond-scum family in the White House!
Mc Mike
(9,114 posts)They're tough, and useful, and not dishonest.
Sorry, Mustelidae.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)jayschool2013
(2,312 posts)than the typical Gannett (Evil Empire) rag. The corporate overlords at Gannett will probably fire someone for this. Or just continue to gut the newsroom, as they do everywhere else.
DFW
(54,335 posts)But if they had to do it (and I suspect they had no choice in the matter), they deserve national recognition for doing what they did. It is sure to bring a reprimand, although if they were 100% factual, they can always say they they were doing their duty as laid out in their job description.
Of course, in the future, their overlord will no doubt lay down the following rule:
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/b3e35d91-f648-46f7-b862-888b455b3c12
randr
(12,409 posts)The moment a lie is let loose it needs to be addressed.
pazzyanne
(6,546 posts)and the republicans politized Mollie's death and ignored her families pleas for privacy and requests that they cease and desist their use of Mollie's death in their ads and memes. Who is disgusting? Not the Democrats!
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)This is what is really disgusting. I can't wait to see that mewling, chinless little punk behind bars.
ouija
(397 posts)Its not even spin anymore, his whole op-ed was a bold faced lie. Its all Republicans have left.
dalton99a
(81,433 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(9,405 posts)djacq
(1,633 posts)I think we need immigration laws that focus on people who pose a real threat and I dont think mamas and babies are the place we should be spending our resources.
Doesn't sound played down to me. Senator Warren had said repeatedly that she's not running in 2020 but go ahead Junior.... Give her a reason.
ffr
(22,668 posts)How unfair to our soft little right wing snowflakes. Boohoo!
Ilsa
(61,692 posts)of the extra money they made covering the orange buffoon. It feels like they are going after him.
dajoki
(10,678 posts)KPN
(15,642 posts)applauded for showing all that we don't need to put up with their lies and deceit. Good on them!
Firestorm49
(4,030 posts)I for one, would greatly enjoy seeing all print publications, radio stations, TV media do the same thing. Using Warrens words in this case, or any original sources words, is irrefutable truth. By all means, insert fact checks directly into the body of the text. The media needs to step it up a notch or three to counter the vomit being emanated by highly biased and partisan sources from either side.
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)struggle4progress
(118,273 posts)... You do not get to usurp Mollie and her legacy for your racist, false narrative now that she is no longer with us. We hereby reclaim our Mollie.
Yes, <Rivera> is an immigrant to this country, with uncertainty as to his legal status. But it matters not, Tibbetts Murphy added. He could have been a citizen, born in this country; he could have been an older, white man from anywhere
He is a man who felt entitled to impose himself on Mollies life, without consequence
Mollie was murdered because a man denied her right to say no ...
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/mollie-tibbetts-murder-family-racist-false-narrative-716255/
struggle4progress
(118,273 posts)REKHA BASU
Des Moines Register columnist
... I wrote a piece a year after Tammy Zywicki was killed, prompted by the discovery of a 36-year-old womans body in a Des Moines area hotel. She was in the process of moving to Des Moines from Denver to begin a supervisory job. Once again, it underscored our precarious footing as women in a world dotted with unforeseeable risks.
In the march for equal rights between the sexes, womens safety remains an arena of profound sexual inequality, a realm where inroads made by women in work and political office find no reflection, said the column published Aug. 27, 1993. Threats to safety are a growing fact of life for everyone, but are an integral part of the way women experience the world. No woman is immune to assault, at home or on the street, in public places or in private ones.
Yet rather than focus on reducing violence against women, some top Republicans, from President Donald Trump to Iowas Gov. Kim Reynolds and Sen. Joni Ernst, had another agenda. They rushed to blame arrested suspect Cristhian Bahena Riveras immigration status, which itself remains unclear. The state Division of Criminal Investigation called him an illegal immigrant. But his lawyer said he was in the country legally, and his employer, Craig Lang of Yarrabee Farms, said his legal status had been verified, but later said he had been hired under a different name ...
http://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/Op-Ed/2018/08/31/Blame-misogyny-for-the-murder-of-Mollie-Tibbetts/stories/201808310056
struggle4progress
(118,273 posts)BY MARCOS BRETÓN
... two to three women are killed each day in the U.S. by an intimate partner, according to the Violence Prevention Center, and yet youll never know the names of the victims because their deaths wont come close to generating the wall-to-wall coverage focusing on the death of Mollie Tibbetts ...
... Samantha Lucas, a second cousin of Tibbets, said this to CNN: She would not want (her death) to be used as fuel against undocumented immigrants ...
... At any given time, there are tens of thousands of Americans categorized as missing by law enforcement. However, only a fraction of those individuals receive news coverage, leading some commentators to hypothesize that missing persons with certain characteristics are more likely to garner media attention than others: namely, white women and girls ...
https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/marcos-breton/article217142185.html
struggle4progress
(118,273 posts)MINUTES after a pair of damaging stories about US President Donald Trump and his former associates broke this week ...
A network of Russia-linked Twitter accounts began blitz-tweeting news that the 20-year-old Tibbetts murderer was an illegal immigrant on Tuesday afternoon, the New York Post reported.
The Russian tweetstorm happened right after Trumps former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, was convicted of bank and tax fraud and Trumps former personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, implicated the president in a campaign finance felony.
The thousands of tweets were an apparent attempt to divert attention from explosive news surrounding Donald Trump and his former associates, the outlet reported ...
https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/russian-trolls-are-exploiting-mollie-tibbetts-murder/news-story/9918532904705e3183a84a9bc5e8ce48
struggle4progress
(118,273 posts)Iowa authorities have confirmed that recorded phone calls citing the slaying of an Iowa college student are being used to promote white supremacist views ...
Its unclear how many of the robocalls have been made since they began .. two days after .. Tibbetts funeral ... A man officials suspected of being in this country illegally is charged with her slaying. The calls describe him as an invader from Mexico.
The recordings say the calls are paid for by The Road to Power, an Idaho-based neo-Nazi organization ...
http://time.com/5384561/supremacist-group-making-robocalls-about-mollie-tibbetts-death/
struggle4progress
(118,273 posts)President Trump doesnt care about Mollie Tibbetts.
... Dont mistake his interest for compassion hes only concerned with exploiting reports that her accused murderer is an undocumented immigrant.
Never mind that the Tibbetts family has condemned such divisiveness ...
https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2018/08/28/mollie-tibbetts-parents-lost-daughter-republicans-found-tragedy-exploit/arinzGPn3ff72m7BWllrwL/story.html
maxrandb
(15,318 posts)Were there no other fucking hayseeds from Dumfuckistan 'Murika to enlighten us with their fucking wisdom?
There must be "dozens" of people all over the country that give a shit what this fucktwit has to say.
Don't fucking congratulate this paper... BOYCOTT IT!!!
Hekate
(90,633 posts)...and hate without comment.
GETPLANING
(846 posts)It uses many of his little asides and phrases. Just too familiar.
pnwmom
(108,973 posts)who do NOT want people like Jr. to use their daughter's death in this despicable way.
TryLogic
(1,722 posts)Should be done all the time, but seriously needed right now!
cp
(6,623 posts)Thank you.
justgamma
(3,665 posts)who wants an open border? The righties keep pushing this lie and no one calls them on it. At least I've never heard of anyone pushing for open borders.
thegoose
(3,115 posts)Think they have a future career in politics. NFW.
Cha
(297,123 posts)was shocked his LIES didn't go unchecked!!!
BlueStater
(7,596 posts)No surprise at all this useless douchebag didn't listen to them.