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Weird. She just held it there. Who is this? (Original Post) catbyte Sep 2018 OP
Isn't that the sign for asshole? GusBob Sep 2018 #1
Who is she? Sure looks like she's flashing that white power sign., and she's sitting right behind... brush Sep 2018 #5
They do shit like this on purpose to distract. joshcryer Sep 2018 #10
She a long-time. right wing, repug apparatchik. Why would you think she's doing it for a joke? brush Sep 2018 #14
There's some question as to whether the sign itself is a false flag trap by right-wingers RhodeIslandOne Sep 2018 #20
Where have you been doing this whole white power movement uptick. Most people here know they've... brush Sep 2018 #26
They co-opted something that's common and they should not be allowed to!!!!! RhodeIslandOne Sep 2018 #37
She got doxxed. Let's see if she laughs once the consequences come down. brush Sep 2018 #38
Details Please Me. Sep 2018 #51
Have you not watched as all the cell phone racists who've called the cops on AAs just living life... brush Sep 2018 #54
AaH Me. Sep 2018 #58
She's already been doxxed. We'll see if there are consequences. brush Sep 2018 #59
The Consequences Is What Makes It Such Me. Sep 2018 #60
You're right. What's next, the peace sign? Vermijelli Sep 2018 #50
She's identifying herself as a racist, & communicating that racists in the white house. AnotherMother4Peace Sep 2018 #68
Like the other person said, it's a false flag type thing. joshcryer Sep 2018 #22
Zina Bash. Trump advisor. Gidney N Cloyd Sep 2018 #16
Just another Faux pas Sep 2018 #2
Ahh the familiar darkside right-wing KGOP republican a-hole gang sign Achilleaze Sep 2018 #3
Zina Bash hlthe2b Sep 2018 #4
Thanks, hit. nt Leghorn21 Sep 2018 #7
I wonder whether she did it while Cruz was up Sanity Claws Sep 2018 #15
Thanks.. mountain grammy Sep 2018 #41
Well, she did work on Immigration issues with Stephen Miller et al, so I'm betting there's something hlthe2b Sep 2018 #43
Hope twitterville can find out...ewwwww Leghorn21 Sep 2018 #6
oh , another deplorable, in you go! JHan Sep 2018 #8
+1 dewsgirl Sep 2018 #52
She used to work for Cruz Skidmore Sep 2018 #9
I don't think you are reading too much into it at all. Anon-C Sep 2018 #11
Give her a black hat and a broom and you've got a Trumper version of wicked witch of the west. honest.abe Sep 2018 #12
I find her at the most, ordinary looking Sanity Claws Sep 2018 #17
Attractive?? Lol. honest.abe Sep 2018 #23
"Washington is Hollywood for ugly people." Paul Begala alfredo Sep 2018 #35
I saw that Tweet too PatSeg Sep 2018 #48
#NotOK demmiblue Sep 2018 #13
You realize that picture started as a 4 Chan troll of liberals, right Lee-Lee Sep 2018 #29
And yet the trolling was picked up by the right LanternWaste Sep 2018 #36
Ain't working. Kingofalldems Sep 2018 #39
Trolling you say? Kingofalldems Sep 2018 #42
Who holds their arm that way? RhodeIslandOne Sep 2018 #18
Very nasty looking woman. smirkymonkey Sep 2018 #19
I'm gonna go with she's letting the world know Cha Sep 2018 #27
+1. Nasty, arrogant, obnoxious, ugly character. dalton99a Sep 2018 #69
Brazen Roland99 Sep 2018 #21
Zina Asshole is not helping her stupid cause. Cha Sep 2018 #24
Yeah, we see you Asshole. Cha Sep 2018 #25
Seems awfully childish to me. CatMor Sep 2018 #28
worked on immigration policy for rump AmandaRuth Sep 2018 #30
+++ exactly ! lunasun Sep 2018 #61
More information about Zina Bash Blueplanet Sep 2018 #31
Thanks and welcome to DU, Blue! - just found this as well: Leghorn21 Sep 2018 #34
Kick for this shared info. Thanks. nt oasis Sep 2018 #45
Oh tea party dad book ! Well no doubt before and not now lunasun Sep 2018 #62
You folks know the whole "OK sign white power" thing is a troll from 4chan, right? Lee-Lee Sep 2018 #32
Life imitates farts. Voltaire2 Sep 2018 #33
Wow, twice in one thread. Kingofalldems Sep 2018 #40
May have started that way, but seems alt right has embraced it... hlthe2b Sep 2018 #44
Just joking you can tell :( lunasun Sep 2018 #63
I think she may saying he's an asshole ProudLib72 Sep 2018 #46
Why work for him? lunasun Sep 2018 #64
Kavanaugh's assistant Zina Bash giving the white power sign right behind him Gothmog Sep 2018 #47
Why does she do this if her father is of Polish Jewish descent and her mother Mexican? k8conant Sep 2018 #55
Stephen Miller is a racist and white supremacist even though he is Jewish Gothmog Sep 2018 #57
Miller 100% Jewish . His family had to escape hate in Europe lunasun Sep 2018 #65
Snopes verdict is that the claim that the OK sign is a white power symbol is unproven mythology Sep 2018 #49
Here is a slightly different take on the sign. Caliman73 Sep 2018 #56
Fwiw, she was on trumps transition team Leghorn21 Sep 2018 #53
Yes, I think too much is read into this particular case Hav Sep 2018 #66
Is it real? Doesn't look right. IADEMO2004 Sep 2018 #67
 

brush

(61,033 posts)
5. Who is she? Sure looks like she's flashing that white power sign., and she's sitting right behind...
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 02:52 PM
Sep 2018

him and in camera range.

It seems to be purposely done.

joshcryer

(62,536 posts)
10. They do shit like this on purpose to distract.
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 03:05 PM
Sep 2018

She probably thought "man if I did the sign that people are upset about it'd be HILARIOUS and people would post about it EVERYWHERE!" I'm sure this is making the rounds on FB as we speak.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
14. She a long-time. right wing, repug apparatchik. Why would you think she's doing it for a joke?
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 03:11 PM
Sep 2018

That's some seriously, devious, racist sh_t to be joking about.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
20. There's some question as to whether the sign itself is a false flag trap by right-wingers
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 03:31 PM
Sep 2018

Seeing as it's a common gesture for almost anyone to make an "OK" sign, some have theorized the right is trying to get a meme going to "own the libs" by laying the seeds that it somehow means "white power" when it really doesn't, or at least, not until the alt-right decided it did.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
26. Where have you been doing this whole white power movement uptick. Most people here know they've...
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 04:26 PM
Sep 2018

co-opted the once "ok" sign into their white power sign, just as they did the PePe the frog character.

It's not in dispute at all except for those who want it to be.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
37. They co-opted something that's common and they should not be allowed to!!!!!
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 04:56 PM
Sep 2018

They could have co-opted "thumbs up" too. Would you have automatically started screaming at people for that too? What about a handshake? How about blinking? What fucking gesture are you going to say "NO!!!! YOU DON'T GET TO OWN THAT!!!"

The alt-right is playing mind games on us. They are taking common everyday things in hopes that when we see them, we try to label them as racist and look like idiots. Did you know they wanted to do it with the rainbow flag??? Do you think we should condemn the rainbow flag pre-emptively right now just because they thought of making it a white power symbol???? Obviously if they thought it up, it must now be a white power symbol, right? And we must condemn it, right?

By the way, none of this has to do with me denying what she's doing. She's clearly "throwing up a sign" to someone for attention. Steven Miller, Bannon, who the fuck knows. No one holds their arms like that. She's probably getting excited at the idea Twitter is calling her out so she can laugh it off and gaslight everyone that's not what she's up to. I see someone already posted she's the granddaughter of Polish Jews. She can milk the outrage and get a huge laugh off of it at the same time. These are sick, sick people.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
54. Have you not watched as all the cell phone racists who've called the cops on AAs just living life...
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 06:19 PM
Sep 2018

have gotten doxxed because their victims have turned their cell phones on them and recorded their racism and unloaded the videos to the internet?

Many soon lost their jobs after twitter detectives, mostly on black twitter, discovered their identity quickly and doxxed them. They soon lost their jobs after being exposed.

Let's see if that happens to this white power sigh flashing dimwit who seems to think she's outsmarting people.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
58. AaH
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 06:33 PM
Sep 2018

And yes I have watched but whether or not she will get doxxed/or be in any way affected by people who likely share her views/or care is quite another matter

Me.

(35,454 posts)
60. The Consequences Is What Makes It Such
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 06:44 PM
Sep 2018

so we'll see, as it seems to me she was quite aware that she was being watched, how could she not be.

joshcryer

(62,536 posts)
22. Like the other person said, it's a false flag type thing.
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 04:16 PM
Sep 2018

I doubt that she sits in a circle conspiring with other super high level ultra nationalist pro Hitler types to take over the world.

But the idea that the "signal" is out there is enough to district and muddle the waters.

Of course the idea that they're feeding it means that they ideologically are racist motherfuckers, but it just shows their callous nature more than anything. It's like when they purposefully wave to a crowd and let the Hitler salute linger for just a tiny bit. They know when you watch the video of it it'll look plain as day, but someone will take a picture of it, and they'll laugh about it.

It's mind games. They've been doing this shit for years.

But yes it is 100% intentional.

hlthe2b

(113,973 posts)
4. Zina Bash
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 02:52 PM
Sep 2018

The woman sitting behind Judge Brett Kavanaugh is becoming a Twitter star as she has been accused of smirking when Democrats speak and looking “smug.” The woman has been identified as Zina Bash, 36. Bash was sitting directly behind Kavanaugh during the first day of his Supreme Court confirmation hearing on September 4. The hearing has been subjected to protests from sitting Democrats on the committee as well as vocal protesters who have tried to shut down proceedings. Some protesters have even invoked the popular Hulu TV series, The Handmaid’s Tale.

Bash is a seasoned judicial and political mover in the nation’s capital. She has worked in D.C. since 2007, for Kavanaugh as well as Senator John Cornyn. In addition, Bash was a director on Ted Cruz’s ill-fated presidential campaign in 2016.

https://heavy.com/news/2018/09/zina-bash/

mountain grammy

(29,035 posts)
41. Thanks..
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 05:16 PM
Sep 2018

in other words she's a deplorable who could be giving her gang a signal or just fooling around. None of these people have an ounce of decency, so it's perfectly reasonable to assume she's up to no good, but who knows?

hlthe2b

(113,973 posts)
43. Well, she did work on Immigration issues with Stephen Miller et al, so I'm betting there's something
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 05:17 PM
Sep 2018

intentional going on. Even if it is merely to get some attention and "misdirection"

Leghorn21

(14,090 posts)
6. Hope twitterville can find out...ewwwww
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 02:53 PM
Sep 2018
here’s Cassandra Fairbanks and Mike Cernovich from back in the day. ewwwwww

Anon-C

(3,440 posts)
11. I don't think you are reading too much into it at all.
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 03:07 PM
Sep 2018

Stephen Miller's done it as glaringly. They know what they're doing...good catch.

 

honest.abe

(9,238 posts)
12. Give her a black hat and a broom and you've got a Trumper version of wicked witch of the west.
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 03:08 PM
Sep 2018

These people are so weird.

Sanity Claws

(22,413 posts)
17. I find her at the most, ordinary looking
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 03:25 PM
Sep 2018

More realistically, her smug look makes her very unattractive.
I bring up her looks because she supposedly was considered one of the 50 most attractive people in D.C. That's a low bar but she doesn't make it, in my book.
I also saw a tweet asking who is that beautiful woman behind Kavanaugh.
I don't see it.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
48. I saw that Tweet too
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 06:07 PM
Sep 2018

I don't find her all that beautiful for pretty much the same reason you mention. The facial expressions are a real turn off.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
29. You realize that picture started as a 4 Chan troll of liberals, right
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 04:29 PM
Sep 2018

They literally made the entire “OK sign is white power” up and created those fake ACLU pictures to troll the left.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
36. And yet the trolling was picked up by the right
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 04:42 PM
Sep 2018

instituted as real (if even as an inside joke), and from there, it has become what it now is: a combo of both plausible deniability and ally-indicators for racists.

AmandaRuth

(3,199 posts)
30. worked on immigration policy for rump
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 04:30 PM
Sep 2018

she knew exactly what she was doing. i am purposely not writing her name, but thank her for the info about herself, her party and her boss.

Blueplanet

(253 posts)
31. More information about Zina Bash
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 04:33 PM
Sep 2018

Father: Dr. Lawrence Gelman, Texas anesthesiology; Dr. Gelman's Book, “The Fall From Grace” Dr. Gelman has a Youtube video.
Mother: Maria Esperanza Gelman Mata
https://everipedia.org/wiki/dr-lawrence-gelman/

Trendsmap.com info: ]https://www.trendsmap.com/twitter/tweet/1037033721235263488


Leghorn21

(14,090 posts)
34. Thanks and welcome to DU, Blue! - just found this as well:
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 04:38 PM
Sep 2018
AG Paxton Names Former Supreme Court Clerk Zina Bash Senior Counsel on His Executive Leadership Team
Tuesday, July 3, 2018 – Austin


Attorney General Ken Paxton today named Zina Bash senior counsel on the executive leadership team of his office. Previously, Bash served in the Trump administration as Special Assistant to the President for regulatory reform, legal and immigration policy.

“Zina is an outstanding and higly-respected attorney whose extensive legal and policy experience in both the public and private sectors will make her a valuable addition to my executive team,” Attorney General Paxton said. “I’m confident Zina will work every day to uphold the rule of law and improve the lives of Texans.”

Over the years, Bash has held a variety of positions in business, law and government, including as deputy director of policy and communications for U.S. Senator Ted Cruz’s presidential campaign and senior counsel to the Senate Judiciary Committee in U.S. Senator John Cornyn’s office. She also practiced law as an appellate attorney at international law firm Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP and was formerly executive vice president of operations and business development at Doctors’ Hospital at Renaissance in Edinburg.

Bash earned a bachelor’s degree from Harvard College, a law degree from Harvard Law School and an M.B.A. from the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School. She was a law clerk to U.S. Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito and to Judge Brett Kavanaugh of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit. Bash was born in Monterrey, Mexico, and grew up in McAllen. Her husband, John, currently serves as U.S. Attorney for the Western District of Texas, the top prosecutor of federal crimes in the region that includes Austin.


https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/news/releases/ag-paxton-names-former-supreme-court-clerk-zina-bash-senior-counsel-on-his

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
62. Oh tea party dad book ! Well no doubt before and not now
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 06:49 PM
Sep 2018

Into the basket you go kavanaugh buddy pal

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
32. You folks know the whole "OK sign white power" thing is a troll from 4chan, right?
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 04:33 PM
Sep 2018

Some of y’all are falling for it so hard your reposting the fake ACLU warnings they made up.

This looks like more trolling aimed at the same thing- to make people think on the left look stupid for falling for a totally made up claim about that being racist.

https://www.adl.org/blog/no-the-ok-gesture-is-not-a-hate-symbol

Voltaire2

(15,377 posts)
33. Life imitates farts.
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 04:38 PM
Sep 2018

It began with the farts on 4chan. Like Pepe, it has transitioned from goof to not goof.

hlthe2b

(113,973 posts)
44. May have started that way, but seems alt right has embraced it...
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 05:19 PM
Sep 2018

Stephen Miller's cronies...

Gothmog

(179,869 posts)
47. Kavanaugh's assistant Zina Bash giving the white power sign right behind him
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 05:51 PM
Sep 2018

Last edited Wed Sep 5, 2018, 02:24 AM - Edit history (1)


k8conant

(3,038 posts)
55. Why does she do this if her father is of Polish Jewish descent and her mother Mexican?
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 06:21 PM
Sep 2018

There is no excuse like a bad excuse.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
49. Snopes verdict is that the claim that the OK sign is a white power symbol is unproven
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 06:10 PM
Sep 2018
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/intern-white-power-hand-gesture/

According to the prominent anti-hate group the Anti-Defamation League, the idea that the hand gesture signifies white supremacist sympathies started as an Internet hoax:

The “OK” hand gesture hoax originated in February 2017 when an anonymous 4channer announced “Operation O-KKK,” telling other members that “we must flood Twitter and other social media websites…claiming that the OK hand sign is a symbol of white supremacy.” The user even provided a helpful graphic showing how the letters WP (for “white power”) could be traced within an “OK” gesture. The originator and others also suggested useful hashtags to help spread the hoax, such as #PowerHandPrivilege and #NotOkay. “Leftists have dug so deep down into their lunacy,” wrote the poster, “We must force [them] to dig more, until the rest of society ain’t going anywhere near that s***.”

People are often eager to believe what they want to believe.

Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
56. Here is a slightly different take on the sign.
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 06:28 PM
Sep 2018

Does not settle the debate, but it actually gives more context than the ADL did in May of 2017 when they put out their statement on the OK sign.

https://lifehacker.com/is-this-an-innocent-ok-sign-or-a-white-power-symbol-1825575794

Leghorn21

(14,090 posts)
53. Fwiw, she was on trumps transition team
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 06:15 PM
Sep 2018

Zina Bash was a member of Donald Trump's presidential transition team, a group of advisors tasked with recommending presidential appointments for the incoming administration.[1]

Bash was a member of Donald Trump's presidential transition team. The transition team was a group of around 100 aides, policy experts, government affairs officials, and former government officials who were tasked with vetting, interviewing, and recommending individuals for top cabinet and staff roles in Trump's administration. She was part of the Department of Justice landing team.

https://ballotpedia.org/Zina_Bash

Hav

(5,969 posts)
66. Yes, I think too much is read into this particular case
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 07:04 PM
Sep 2018

She might be a deplorable but this is getting ridiculous. Even ignoring the question whether it is indeed a sign used by white supremacists, in this case, it's not even the supposed gesture. The thumb and index finger don't meet and form the supposed p and only two of the other three fingers are extended.
I tried this pose. It's not even unnatural or uncomfortable.

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