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ProfessorPlum

(11,461 posts)
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 09:21 AM Sep 2018

Cory Booker's release of "confidential" information on Kavanaugh was political theater

Last edited Fri Sep 7, 2018, 01:04 PM - Edit history (1)

It was carefully staged, as was his challenge to throw him out of the Senate.

However, having said that, I want more of this please! Well done political theater still demonstrates where we stand, indicates to our voters that you have the ability to at least fake courage (and possibly exhibit genuine courage when it matters), creates a media narrative that independents and conservatives understand also, generates headlines and is a strong signal that Democrats can and will stand up to Republicans, especially where Republicans are so obviously in the wrong.

Even an empty gesture (and Booker's action was not empty) is at least a gesture, and our side can use as much of that as possible.

Give us someone to root for, not just a cast of villains to root against.

More morale-boosting political theater please.

(For the record, I know that Booker has physical courage also, having jumped into a burning building recently. I'd love for him to take less corporate money, but that courage may come in time as well)

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Cory Booker's release of "confidential" information on Kavanaugh was political theater (Original Post) ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 OP
I'm okay with this. The RePutin party has LIED, CHEATED, AND STOLEN ELECTIONS. fleur-de-lisa Sep 2018 #1
The theater was that the Republicans released the documents just hours before. olegramps Sep 2018 #23
I would prefer not to give the other side Watchfoxheadexplodes Sep 2018 #2
You mean conservatives? ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #3
In other words, play to the GOP. kcr Sep 2018 #4
So, how have Dems "pandered the bullies" and can you ehrnst Sep 2018 #13
Read the post I was replying to n/t kcr Sep 2018 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Sep 2018 #16
Looking forward to the future instead of backwards to the past gratuitous Sep 2018 #17
Not sure how that answers my question... ehrnst Sep 2018 #18
Prosecute people for breaking the law? gratuitous Sep 2018 #22
Bringing criminals to justice is the job of law enforcement, not legislators. ehrnst Sep 2018 #24
So, when the Democrats were in power . . . gratuitous Sep 2018 #25
My shrug was about you blaming Democratic reps for criminals not be prosecuted. ehrnst Sep 2018 #37
Democrats were too busy fixing True Blue American Sep 2018 #49
Not really a good try. Kingofalldems Sep 2018 #14
A swing and obamanut2012 Sep 2018 #21
That is all they would do no matter what we did. And they're lying pnwmom Sep 2018 #43
I have a ticket to hear Sen. Booker speak on Saturday night at the Texas state party fundraiser Gothmog Sep 2018 #5
If you get a chance True Blue American Sep 2018 #50
It was a great speech Gothmog Sep 2018 #51
It was a welcome sight, seeing the GOP surprised at being called out & pushed back. CrispyQ Sep 2018 #6
yes they do, and political theater like this should help create that fear ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #7
After the initial shock (Democrats usually don't do confrontational to this degree) pazzyanne Sep 2018 #44
I admire how Senator Booker handled Senator Cornyn Gothmog Sep 2018 #8
So What? Me. Sep 2018 #9
Pray tell,... Why would Sen. Cornyn (R-Tx) vehemently... magicarpet Sep 2018 #10
because he is a right-wing asshole? ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #12
Concise and To The Point ProfessorGAC Sep 2018 #26
So he lacks courage, and is just being 'theatrical' ehrnst Sep 2018 #11
Cory Booker releases documents stamped... "Committee Confidential". magicarpet Sep 2018 #31
okay....but there's still truth to that. Do you really think Booker thought his seat was in jeopardy JCanete Sep 2018 #33
the WH withheld permission until the eve of the hearing bigtree Sep 2018 #19
No it was not just "theater". Our Democrats are FIGHTING to take down Kavanaugh CousinIT Sep 2018 #20
I think I indicated that it was a calculated move ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #36
Stand up and be counted! WA-03 Democrat Sep 2018 #27
Well, Theater helped get Europe out of it's Dark Age so perhaps it will work here too. Anon-C Sep 2018 #28
I dunno. It's looks pretty stupid now. Bonx Sep 2018 #29
I applaud Sen. Booker's action klook Sep 2018 #30
I want that shirt! Source? northoftheborder Sep 2018 #32
zazzle.com klook Sep 2018 #38
if it was theater, it fooled mcturtle, who talked about an ethics investigation into booker. unblock Sep 2018 #34
Harris/Booker 2020 at140 Sep 2018 #35
. . . CousinIT Sep 2018 #39
I'll take either fallout87 Sep 2018 #47
It was good theater. He basically told Comyn to STF. It was worth that. jalan48 Sep 2018 #40
well said ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #41
i loved it. Kurt V. Sep 2018 #42
I knew that and I don't care. femmocrat Sep 2018 #45
Did Booker know the documents were already declassified? fallout87 Sep 2018 #46
Harris' and Booker's political theater was good for the base, but political theatre has to have aikoaiko Sep 2018 #48
You are saying Booker True Blue American Sep 2018 #53
All over social media for the Democratic base, maybe. Which is good. aikoaiko Sep 2018 #56
That was not the point! True Blue American Sep 2018 #58
Booker was great last night at the Texas Democratic Party fundraiser Gothmog Sep 2018 #52
That guy will not True Blue American Sep 2018 #54
I met Beto a while back at the National Convention and have been to several of his events Gothmog Sep 2018 #55
I can't vote for Beto, but True Blue American Sep 2018 #57

fleur-de-lisa

(14,703 posts)
1. I'm okay with this. The RePutin party has LIED, CHEATED, AND STOLEN ELECTIONS.
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 09:26 AM
Sep 2018

I want our congress critters to take whatever action they deem necessary to stop these criminals (short of breaking the law, of course).

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
23. The theater was that the Republicans released the documents just hours before.
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 11:16 AM
Sep 2018

For me this is and example of how nasty and corrupt the Republicans are. When they had their bluff called they quickly reversed themselves and released the documents prior to the convening the meeting. The are the filth of the earth. Slim bags one and all.

kcr

(15,522 posts)
4. In other words, play to the GOP.
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 09:36 AM
Sep 2018

Who will only mock us anyway, no matter what. Great winning strategy. That way the GOP bullies can manipulate us even more.

Sorry. We've done it your way and pandered to the bullies long enough and look where it got us.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
13. So, how have Dems "pandered the bullies" and can you
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 09:53 AM
Sep 2018

explain what you mean when you say "where it got us?"

Response to kcr (Reply #15)

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
17. Looking forward to the future instead of backwards to the past
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 10:17 AM
Sep 2018

Let us not criminalize political disagreements.

It's why Roger Stone is still haunting the corridors of power. It's why Oliver North still gets a hero's welcome at conservative get togethers. It's why Elliott Abrams gets work in Washington. And by failing repeatedly to exorcise this corruption, it comes back and comes back again and again, each time more virulent and scandal-resistant than ever.

Some good Democrats are going to have to spend their careers in what could have otherwise been productive governmental pursuits ferreting out these criminals and getting them out of public affairs forever. By failing to do that over the last 45 years, we've gotten, well, 45.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
18. Not sure how that answers my question...
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 10:22 AM
Sep 2018

So why is it the failure of "Democrats" in "ferreting out these criminals and getting them out of public affairs forever?"

What opportunities did Democrats specifically have to "exorcize the corrpution" and prevent "Oliver North getting a hero's welcome at conservative get togethers" and failed to do so?

I could say that it was the failure of police to "ferret out the criminals" who broke into my car before they could do it, but that would be foolish.


gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
22. Prosecute people for breaking the law?
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 11:13 AM
Sep 2018

We used to do that once upon a time. The war crimes and the crimes against humanity perpetrated by the Bush administration were just swept under the rug when Democrats came to power in 2009. We were going to be looking forward to the future! So John Yoo doesn't go to jail or even have to answer for laying the legal groundwork for the torture regime instituted in Afghanistan, Iraq, and nobody even knows where else. He's at Cal Berkeley, a distinguished scholar. Similar treatment for Condoleezza Rice, except she's at Stanford when she's not sitting behind Brett Kavanaugh earlier this week during his committee hearing. Colin Powell, Dick Cheney, the aforementioned Elliott Abrams, all enjoying their lives while the blood of their victims seeps further into the ground. Erik Prince, currently peddling his ideas for a private mercenary army to a receptive White House, instead of being called to answer for the war crimes of his various companies.

But I understand people are just fine with these folks walking around free, insinuating themselves back into politics. The victims are forgotten. Many of the crimes have passed their statute of limitations (except for the war crimes and crimes against humanity, which don't have a statute of limitations, so we have to ignore those crimes extra hard), and it's just so difficult to prosecute when Fox says mean things and the perpetrators get all huffy about accusations. So, when the thieves come back for another go-round, we can all say "Tut, tut" and be dismayed, and account others as foolish for wanting to have done something about those prior crimes.

And I haven't even mentioned the bankers and others who nearly collapsed the world economy back in 2008, and who are back again in 2018 for more of the same. There was the briefest of spasms of financial reforms passed, but they've been mostly repealed, so we can watch it all happen again next year. Foolish to think it could ever be otherwise.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
24. Bringing criminals to justice is the job of law enforcement, not legislators.
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 11:19 AM
Sep 2018

Why are you saying that it's the responsibility of Democratic legislators?

What "people" are you referring to when you say, "But I understand people are just fine with these folks walking around free, insinuating themselves back into politics."



gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
25. So, when the Democrats were in power . . .
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 11:28 AM
Sep 2018

You remember Democrats were in the majority of both houses of Congress and held the White House in 2009 and 2010, no? That means the majority party in Congress (either house) could have conducted investigations, the White House could have instructed the Department of Justice to look into one or two matters, right? Instead, nothing happened, because the Obama administration decided it was more important to look forward to the future than backwards to the past.

But you've captured the attitude perfectly when it's brought up: Whaddya gonna do? Can't be helped. No sense doing anything about it then or now. What's the worst that could happen? Foolish to think it could be otherwise.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
37. My shrug was about you blaming Democratic reps for criminals not be prosecuted.
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 12:15 PM
Sep 2018

Which is the job of the criminal justice system, which one learns in Government class in high school.

Can't be helped. No sense doing anything about it then or now. What's the worst that could happen? Foolish to think it could be otherwise.


Strawman much? I guess if you have no actual rebuttal, misrepresenting what I said is what you have left.

Clearly you think that if anyone finds a problem with your logic on a single issue, then you can accuse them of disagreeing with you on everything, including the fact that there are people out there walking around that should be in jail, the sun comes up in the east, etc.

But hey, if it helps you rationalize your unfounded anger at the Democratic party, knock yourself out.


True Blue American

(18,579 posts)
49. Democrats were too busy fixing
Sun Sep 9, 2018, 11:20 AM
Sep 2018

The Bush economy and trying to get a health care bill through in 2009 and 2010!

They really did not have time to prosecute the Bush criminals.

pnwmom

(110,168 posts)
43. That is all they would do no matter what we did. And they're lying
Sun Sep 9, 2018, 12:45 AM
Sep 2018

about the documents having been declassified already. If that were so, they wouldn't have been threatening Booker with expulsion.

And no one declassifies documents at 4 am, which is what they were claiming.

Gothmog

(173,731 posts)
5. I have a ticket to hear Sen. Booker speak on Saturday night at the Texas state party fundraiser
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 09:36 AM
Sep 2018

I am looking forward to hearing a true hero of the Democratic Party speak at this fundraiser.

True Blue American

(18,579 posts)
50. If you get a chance
Sun Sep 9, 2018, 11:23 AM
Sep 2018

Tell Booker the Democratic Underground posters are proud of him!

Better yet, make a sign.

Gothmog

(173,731 posts)
51. It was a great speech
Sun Sep 9, 2018, 01:26 PM
Sep 2018

Here is my favorite line




Booker was the only speaker who did not stand behind the podicum

CrispyQ

(40,542 posts)
6. It was a welcome sight, seeing the GOP surprised at being called out & pushed back.
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 09:38 AM
Sep 2018

Yes, we need more of this. The dems have been a doormat for too long. The GOP needs to fear the dems.

ProfessorPlum

(11,461 posts)
7. yes they do, and political theater like this should help create that fear
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 09:40 AM
Sep 2018

It was a smart move on Booker's part, and welcome.

pazzyanne

(6,739 posts)
44. After the initial shock (Democrats usually don't do confrontational to this degree)
Sun Sep 9, 2018, 08:34 AM
Sep 2018

I was on board with what was going on. It felt great to see Democrats standing up and fighting back. I also enjoyed watching Grassley and his entourage in shock and then scrambling to find a way to shut everything down. What they came up with was immediately disproved by the Democrats on the committee. I have never been more proud of "our side" than I have been this past week. Shove what most of the talking heads are saying. They are in shock and trying to regain their balance after watching the Democrats standing up and openly fighting!

magicarpet

(18,456 posts)
10. Pray tell,... Why would Sen. Cornyn (R-Tx) vehemently...
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 09:49 AM
Sep 2018

... defend the majorities right to stamp the document "Committee Confidential" even though it was a highly bogus maneuver ?And then threaten Booker with expulsion from the Senate if he released these documents that were bogusly stamped confidential and not for public release ?

https://mobile.twitter.com/cspan/status/1037704153483681792/video/1

ProfessorPlum

(11,461 posts)
12. because he is a right-wing asshole?
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 09:51 AM
Sep 2018

drunk with power and the need to keep as much info about Kav. secret for as long as possible?

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
11. So he lacks courage, and is just being 'theatrical'
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 09:50 AM
Sep 2018

Damning an effective, charismatic DEMOCRATIC Senator with faint praise.

Got it.

magicarpet

(18,456 posts)
31. Cory Booker releases documents stamped... "Committee Confidential".
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 11:49 AM
Sep 2018

Committeeommittee Confidential" by the majority Rethug Party so these Kavanaugh documents could be protected from public view.

A designation used primarily to protect national security issues from disclosure. But in this instance the Rethugs wanted to limit disclosure to the public of any information that the public might find objectionable or questionable in regards to the honesty of the Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh. This was a bogus attempt by the Rethug Party to conceal documents that placed the nominee in an awkward and unfavorable position.

Senator Cornyn then warned and threatened Seen. Booker with expulsion if he released the Kavanaugh documents the Rethugs stamped Committee Confidential to block public release.

Then after Sen. Booker released the "secret " documents to the public the committee chair now claimed the documents in question were released from the "secret" classification and allowed to go public retroactively back to 4am of the day of Sen. Booker's forced release.

Booker forced the issue, called the "Committee Confidential" label bogus, the "secret" designations purpose was only to block public release of unfavorable information about the nominee.

Once Booker made this whole bogus charade public the Fascist Rethugs were made to back down.

These Fascist Rethugs just do not quit...
(snip)

BY JORDAIN CARNEY - 09/07/18 10:49 AM EDT

The Senate's top two Republican lawmakers say Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) might be subject to an official review by the Senate Ethics Committee for releasing documents labeled “committee confidential” related to Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh’s past work at the White House.
(end snip - more at link)

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142152733

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
33. okay....but there's still truth to that. Do you really think Booker thought his seat was in jeopardy
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 11:55 AM
Sep 2018

bigtree

(93,295 posts)
19. the WH withheld permission until the eve of the hearing
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 10:26 AM
Sep 2018

...and republicans on the committee, including the chairman, acted as if he had committed a crime. It's really not 'theater' to openly confront them on their obstruction, using a document that had been held hostage merely hours beforehand.

No fault at all for Booker calling their bluff in front of a pretty large television audience. It's not as if there hasn't been resistance to releasing info on Kavanaugh. Hell, there are still over 102,000 documents still being withheld by the WH.

CousinIT

(12,111 posts)
20. No it was not just "theater". Our Democrats are FIGHTING to take down Kavanaugh
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 10:29 AM
Sep 2018

Rachel Explains how this and other actions Dems took/are taking are CALCULATED moves:

ProfessorPlum

(11,461 posts)
36. I think I indicated that it was a calculated move
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 12:04 PM
Sep 2018

and not (merely) theater. But it was definitely also political theater.

Thanks for the link to RM.

WA-03 Democrat

(3,328 posts)
27. Stand up and be counted!
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 11:31 AM
Sep 2018

I want a fighter for truth. I want a fighter for facts. Logic and reason are the glue that holds a liberal western democracy together and its being pulled apart. This is the antidote to the Putin Chaos machine. The republicans and russians are all gas lighting us.

Go Corey!

Fuck the Soviets!
Fuck the traitors!

klook

(13,476 posts)
30. I applaud Sen. Booker's action
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 11:42 AM
Sep 2018

It underscores the fact that the Republicans did a sneaky document dump in the wee hours before the start of the hearing, cynically depriving the public, the press, and the Democrats of a chance to review the (still incomplete) record on Kavanaugh in advance of the vetting process.

klook

(13,476 posts)
38. zazzle.com
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 01:46 PM
Sep 2018

Search for ER Tshirts -- that's on the back of one of their shirts. I found it via an image search.

unblock

(55,841 posts)
34. if it was theater, it fooled mcturtle, who talked about an ethics investigation into booker.
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 12:00 PM
Sep 2018

ProfessorPlum

(11,461 posts)
41. well said
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 04:36 PM
Sep 2018

and instead of just accepting a stupid rule from the committee chair, he broke it and defied them to do anything about it. it was well played. Usually we just grumble.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
45. I knew that and I don't care.
Sun Sep 9, 2018, 09:24 AM
Sep 2018

It still lifted my spirits and Sen. Booker’s profile. It still took guts.

 

fallout87

(819 posts)
46. Did Booker know the documents were already declassified?
Sun Sep 9, 2018, 09:37 AM
Sep 2018

I haven't read anything on this yet...

aikoaiko

(34,213 posts)
48. Harris' and Booker's political theater was good for the base, but political theatre has to have
Sun Sep 9, 2018, 10:45 AM
Sep 2018

some moral substance to really matter.

When it became clear that Harris' posturing to get Kavanaugh in a lie or exposed for talking to Trump's lawyers or when Booker feigned high risk, my faith in their statements and actions are undermined.

An example of good political theater was John Lewis' sit in on the Congressional floor for gun control. Even though I probably disagree with some of her stances on gun control, it had an honest moral base.

True Blue American

(18,579 posts)
53. You are saying Booker
Sun Sep 9, 2018, 01:51 PM
Sep 2018

And his,” Bring it on,” has not gone all over Social Media?

Booker knew exactly what he was doing. He called out the pompous bully Cornyn, made him look like an impotent fool. Even Grassley did not back Cornyn.

aikoaiko

(34,213 posts)
56. All over social media for the Democratic base, maybe. Which is good.
Sun Sep 9, 2018, 02:32 PM
Sep 2018


But its impact was limited because he wasn't at a lot of risk.

True Blue American

(18,579 posts)
54. That guy will not
Sun Sep 9, 2018, 01:54 PM
Sep 2018

Be shut down! I love it. Glad you had the chance to see him.

What do you think of Beto? The crowds love him.

Gothmog

(173,731 posts)
55. I met Beto a while back at the National Convention and have been to several of his events
Sun Sep 9, 2018, 02:05 PM
Sep 2018

I really like him

True Blue American

(18,579 posts)
57. I can't vote for Beto, but
Sun Sep 9, 2018, 03:33 PM
Sep 2018

I am really impressed with what he says.

Men like Beto are the future of our party, along with Swawell, Joe Kennedy, Booker, Harris and Hirono.

And of course my Sherrod Brown.

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