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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCory Booker's release of "confidential" information on Kavanaugh was political theater
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It was carefully staged, as was his challenge to throw him out of the Senate.
However, having said that, I want more of this please! Well done political theater still demonstrates where we stand, indicates to our voters that you have the ability to at least fake courage (and possibly exhibit genuine courage when it matters), creates a media narrative that independents and conservatives understand also, generates headlines and is a strong signal that Democrats can and will stand up to Republicans, especially where Republicans are so obviously in the wrong.
Even an empty gesture (and Booker's action was not empty) is at least a gesture, and our side can use as much of that as possible.
Give us someone to root for, not just a cast of villains to root against.
More morale-boosting political theater please.
(For the record, I know that Booker has physical courage also, having jumped into a burning building recently. I'd love for him to take less corporate money, but that courage may come in time as well)
fleur-de-lisa
(14,703 posts)I want our congress critters to take whatever action they deem necessary to stop these criminals (short of breaking the law, of course).
olegramps
(8,200 posts)For me this is and example of how nasty and corrupt the Republicans are. When they had their bluff called they quickly reversed themselves and released the documents prior to the convening the meeting. The are the filth of the earth. Slim bags one and all.
Watchfoxheadexplodes
(3,542 posts)Reason to mock you all day.
ProfessorPlum
(11,461 posts)who gives a shit what they say? They are all traitors to our country
kcr
(15,522 posts)Who will only mock us anyway, no matter what. Great winning strategy. That way the GOP bullies can manipulate us even more.
Sorry. We've done it your way and pandered to the bullies long enough and look where it got us.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)explain what you mean when you say "where it got us?"
kcr
(15,522 posts)Response to kcr (Reply #15)
ehrnst This message was self-deleted by its author.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Let us not criminalize political disagreements.
It's why Roger Stone is still haunting the corridors of power. It's why Oliver North still gets a hero's welcome at conservative get togethers. It's why Elliott Abrams gets work in Washington. And by failing repeatedly to exorcise this corruption, it comes back and comes back again and again, each time more virulent and scandal-resistant than ever.
Some good Democrats are going to have to spend their careers in what could have otherwise been productive governmental pursuits ferreting out these criminals and getting them out of public affairs forever. By failing to do that over the last 45 years, we've gotten, well, 45.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)So why is it the failure of "Democrats" in "ferreting out these criminals and getting them out of public affairs forever?"
What opportunities did Democrats specifically have to "exorcize the corrpution" and prevent "Oliver North getting a hero's welcome at conservative get togethers" and failed to do so?
I could say that it was the failure of police to "ferret out the criminals" who broke into my car before they could do it, but that would be foolish.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)We used to do that once upon a time. The war crimes and the crimes against humanity perpetrated by the Bush administration were just swept under the rug when Democrats came to power in 2009. We were going to be looking forward to the future! So John Yoo doesn't go to jail or even have to answer for laying the legal groundwork for the torture regime instituted in Afghanistan, Iraq, and nobody even knows where else. He's at Cal Berkeley, a distinguished scholar. Similar treatment for Condoleezza Rice, except she's at Stanford when she's not sitting behind Brett Kavanaugh earlier this week during his committee hearing. Colin Powell, Dick Cheney, the aforementioned Elliott Abrams, all enjoying their lives while the blood of their victims seeps further into the ground. Erik Prince, currently peddling his ideas for a private mercenary army to a receptive White House, instead of being called to answer for the war crimes of his various companies.
But I understand people are just fine with these folks walking around free, insinuating themselves back into politics. The victims are forgotten. Many of the crimes have passed their statute of limitations (except for the war crimes and crimes against humanity, which don't have a statute of limitations, so we have to ignore those crimes extra hard), and it's just so difficult to prosecute when Fox says mean things and the perpetrators get all huffy about accusations. So, when the thieves come back for another go-round, we can all say "Tut, tut" and be dismayed, and account others as foolish for wanting to have done something about those prior crimes.
And I haven't even mentioned the bankers and others who nearly collapsed the world economy back in 2008, and who are back again in 2018 for more of the same. There was the briefest of spasms of financial reforms passed, but they've been mostly repealed, so we can watch it all happen again next year. Foolish to think it could ever be otherwise.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Why are you saying that it's the responsibility of Democratic legislators?
What "people" are you referring to when you say, "But I understand people are just fine with these folks walking around free, insinuating themselves back into politics."
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)You remember Democrats were in the majority of both houses of Congress and held the White House in 2009 and 2010, no? That means the majority party in Congress (either house) could have conducted investigations, the White House could have instructed the Department of Justice to look into one or two matters, right? Instead, nothing happened, because the Obama administration decided it was more important to look forward to the future than backwards to the past.
But you've captured the attitude perfectly when it's brought up:
Whaddya gonna do? Can't be helped. No sense doing anything about it then or now. What's the worst that could happen? Foolish to think it could be otherwise.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Which is the job of the criminal justice system, which one learns in Government class in high school.
Strawman much? I guess if you have no actual rebuttal, misrepresenting what I said is what you have left.
Clearly you think that if anyone finds a problem with your logic on a single issue, then you can accuse them of disagreeing with you on everything, including the fact that there are people out there walking around that should be in jail, the sun comes up in the east, etc.
But hey, if it helps you rationalize your unfounded anger at the Democratic party, knock yourself out.
True Blue American
(18,579 posts)The Bush economy and trying to get a health care bill through in 2009 and 2010!
They really did not have time to prosecute the Bush criminals.
Kingofalldems
(40,004 posts)obamanut2012
(29,106 posts)A BIG MISS!
pnwmom
(110,168 posts)about the documents having been declassified already. If that were so, they wouldn't have been threatening Booker with expulsion.
And no one declassifies documents at 4 am, which is what they were claiming.
Gothmog
(173,731 posts)I am looking forward to hearing a true hero of the Democratic Party speak at this fundraiser.
True Blue American
(18,579 posts)Tell Booker the Democratic Underground posters are proud of him!
Better yet, make a sign.
Gothmog
(173,731 posts)Here is my favorite line
Link to tweet
Booker was the only speaker who did not stand behind the podicum
Link to tweet
CrispyQ
(40,542 posts)Yes, we need more of this. The dems have been a doormat for too long. The GOP needs to fear the dems.
ProfessorPlum
(11,461 posts)It was a smart move on Booker's part, and welcome.
pazzyanne
(6,739 posts)I was on board with what was going on. It felt great to see Democrats standing up and fighting back. I also enjoyed watching Grassley and his entourage in shock and then scrambling to find a way to shut everything down. What they came up with was immediately disproved by the Democrats on the committee. I have never been more proud of "our side" than I have been this past week. Shove what most of the talking heads are saying. They are in shock and trying to regain their balance after watching the Democrats standing up and openly fighting!
Gothmog
(173,731 posts)Me.
(35,454 posts)magicarpet
(18,456 posts)... defend the majorities right to stamp the document "Committee Confidential" even though it was a highly bogus maneuver ?And then threaten Booker with expulsion from the Senate if he released these documents that were bogusly stamped confidential and not for public release ?
https://mobile.twitter.com/cspan/status/1037704153483681792/video/1
ProfessorPlum
(11,461 posts)drunk with power and the need to keep as much info about Kav. secret for as long as possible?
ProfessorGAC
(75,559 posts)In fact, your title was a completely apt answer!
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Damning an effective, charismatic DEMOCRATIC Senator with faint praise.
Got it.
magicarpet
(18,456 posts)Committeeommittee Confidential" by the majority Rethug Party so these Kavanaugh documents could be protected from public view.
A designation used primarily to protect national security issues from disclosure. But in this instance the Rethugs wanted to limit disclosure to the public of any information that the public might find objectionable or questionable in regards to the honesty of the Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh. This was a bogus attempt by the Rethug Party to conceal documents that placed the nominee in an awkward and unfavorable position.
Senator Cornyn then warned and threatened Seen. Booker with expulsion if he released the Kavanaugh documents the Rethugs stamped Committee Confidential to block public release.
Then after Sen. Booker released the "secret " documents to the public the committee chair now claimed the documents in question were released from the "secret" classification and allowed to go public retroactively back to 4am of the day of Sen. Booker's forced release.
Booker forced the issue, called the "Committee Confidential" label bogus, the "secret" designations purpose was only to block public release of unfavorable information about the nominee.
Once Booker made this whole bogus charade public the Fascist Rethugs were made to back down.
These Fascist Rethugs just do not quit...
(snip)
BY JORDAIN CARNEY - 09/07/18 10:49 AM EDT
The Senate's top two Republican lawmakers say Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) might be subject to an official review by the Senate Ethics Committee for releasing documents labeled committee confidential related to Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaughs past work at the White House.
(end snip - more at link)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142152733
JCanete
(5,272 posts)bigtree
(93,295 posts)...and republicans on the committee, including the chairman, acted as if he had committed a crime. It's really not 'theater' to openly confront them on their obstruction, using a document that had been held hostage merely hours beforehand.
No fault at all for Booker calling their bluff in front of a pretty large television audience. It's not as if there hasn't been resistance to releasing info on Kavanaugh. Hell, there are still over 102,000 documents still being withheld by the WH.
CousinIT
(12,111 posts)Rachel Explains how this and other actions Dems took/are taking are CALCULATED moves:
ProfessorPlum
(11,461 posts)and not (merely) theater. But it was definitely also political theater.
Thanks for the link to RM.
WA-03 Democrat
(3,328 posts)I want a fighter for truth. I want a fighter for facts. Logic and reason are the glue that holds a liberal western democracy together and its being pulled apart. This is the antidote to the Putin Chaos machine. The republicans and russians are all gas lighting us.
Go Corey!
Fuck the Soviets!
Fuck the traitors!
Anon-C
(3,440 posts)Bonx
(2,353 posts)klook
(13,476 posts)It underscores the fact that the Republicans did a sneaky document dump in the wee hours before the start of the hearing, cynically depriving the public, the press, and the Democrats of a chance to review the (still incomplete) record on Kavanaugh in advance of the vetting process.

northoftheborder
(7,632 posts)klook
(13,476 posts)Search for ER Tshirts -- that's on the back of one of their shirts. I found it via an image search.
unblock
(55,841 posts)at140
(6,201 posts)fallout87
(819 posts)Harris/Booker or Booker/Harris.
Both would be fantastic.
jalan48
(14,914 posts)ProfessorPlum
(11,461 posts)and instead of just accepting a stupid rule from the committee chair, he broke it and defied them to do anything about it. it was well played. Usually we just grumble.
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)femmocrat
(28,394 posts)It still lifted my spirits and Sen. Bookers profile. It still took guts.
fallout87
(819 posts)I haven't read anything on this yet...
aikoaiko
(34,213 posts)some moral substance to really matter.
When it became clear that Harris' posturing to get Kavanaugh in a lie or exposed for talking to Trump's lawyers or when Booker feigned high risk, my faith in their statements and actions are undermined.
An example of good political theater was John Lewis' sit in on the Congressional floor for gun control. Even though I probably disagree with some of her stances on gun control, it had an honest moral base.
True Blue American
(18,579 posts)And his, Bring it on, has not gone all over Social Media?
Booker knew exactly what he was doing. He called out the pompous bully Cornyn, made him look like an impotent fool. Even Grassley did not back Cornyn.
aikoaiko
(34,213 posts)But its impact was limited because he wasn't at a lot of risk.
True Blue American
(18,579 posts)Gothmog
(173,731 posts)True Blue American
(18,579 posts)Be shut down! I love it. Glad you had the chance to see him.
What do you think of Beto? The crowds love him.
Gothmog
(173,731 posts)I really like him
True Blue American
(18,579 posts)I am really impressed with what he says.
Men like Beto are the future of our party, along with Swawell, Joe Kennedy, Booker, Harris and Hirono.
And of course my Sherrod Brown.