Right winger struggles with supporting his girlfriend's decision to use Medicare for asthma...

[Comrade_McKenzie]

Found this on one of their forums this morning. What a sad, deluded state of mind you have to be in to be one of these people.

I have always been against any type of government assistance of any kind and she has grown up in a family where it is ok i am 20 years old in college working part time and she is 18 years old waiting a little bit for college so that i can get my degree while she can work full time. we are just moving out to get are first homes we both work at mcdonalds and have just enough of a budget to pay rent and other bills. she has asthma and needs an inhaler but I am highly against government assistance because that's what the lazy and the democrats do.
Who would i be to say you don't need government assistance when my own girlfriend uses it?

[Xipe Totec]

1. Obviously, the honorable thing is for him to leave

So she can find a real human being to live with.

[Ken Burch]

38. These creeps don't DO "honorable", though.

[sibelian]

2. Time to wise up. You can't live your life on your own.

No-one can make it in this world without learning how to make common cause with those who already live in it.

[arely staircase]

3. see the crap you have to worry about when you are a right wing loon?

kids, do NOT be a right wing loon?

[Renew Deal]

4. He should stop whining and get a second job

[2pooped2pop]

16. Prize winning answer

[Ken Burch]

39. ...assuming he really has a FIRST job

and isn't just sponging off his parents(the people who are PAYING his tuition if he didn't get a scholarship or a student loan.

[xxqqqzme]

52. He didn't get a

scholarship with that grammar, punctuation and structure.

[Ken Burch]

71. His "college" is probably the University of Phoenix or some other online diploma mill.

Those places will take anybody who gives them a Visa number.

[treestar]

78. +1

Notice he's more about judging her than pulling himself and her up with their bootstraps.

That's exactly what most of them are really about. Pretending to be higher and mightier than the less fortunate.

[Drahthaardogs]

81. Absolutely!

In fact, if he is truly a conservative, he should do what conservative spokeswoman Dr. Laura would tell him.

1) Marry her or get out. No getting milk without buying the cow is allowed.

2) Get a second job to support her medicine

Dr. Laura would say you are not much of a man (at least from a conservative perspective. We democrats tend to not hold things like needing health care against people and would likely disagree.)

[2pooped2pop]

5. Obviously he must let her die.

It's the republican way.

[freshwest]

10. Yep, just think, she's 'doing' that guy, too. Hope she finds his online opinion of her, soon.

[kestrel91316]

18. He should tell her first that she needs to accept responsibility for her own health care.

[Salviati]

31. He should make sure to take inspiration from ayn rand, and tell her this in a three hour monologue..

... on the evils of kindness and generosity, and how the weak parasites like herself are dragging down the heroic Nietzschian ubermench like himself.

[Ken Burch]

40. And then SHE should tell him where he can shove her used inhalers.

[tanyev]

6. Well, she found her Prince Charming.

[cali]

7. Medicaid, not Medicare

[PatSeg]

8. Just let her die of an asthma attack

for the sake of your warped principles.

[smirkymonkey]

36. +1000

Asshole, I hope he gets some horrible condition that he can't afford without government sponsored healthcare.

[PatSeg]

83. Of course

the guy is VERY young and I said some pretty stupid things when I was 20. He still has a lot of lessons to learn and if he tries to force these beliefs on his girlfriend, he could learn a huge relationship lesson really fast.

[Zalatix]

59. +1,000 and -1,000

(ASSuming the Daily Paul post in question isn't a troll post, which I suspect it is)

It is the necessary consequence of his belief system that he should let her sink or swim - survive on her own, or die of an asthma attack.

It is inhumane for us, however, to actually suggest that he do so, and risk a human life for his end, or potentially for our entertainment.

I hope she gets the care she needs, however she can get it.

Edit: I don't deny laughing at the prospect of Conservatives dying for their values. It's just not funny if it actually happens...

[PatSeg]

82. What a scary thought

that someone would take that literally. Being I have asthma and know that my inhaler could save my life, this guy's story really hit home for me.

As far as conservatives "dying for their values", I'm inclined to think they are generally all talk. If misfortune should come their way, they tend to be the first ones to take advantage of every program available. Unlike the lazy and shiftless, THEY are entitled because they paid into the system, blah, blah, blah. I've heard it before and I'm always amazed that they so rarely see their own hypocrisy.

[Nay]

89. Indeed. They are actually only in favor of OTHER people dying for their (the RW) values. nt

[PatSeg]

95. Much like sending OTHER people's

children to die in wars that they support and promote.

[Horse with no Name]

93. Prize winning answer here

They are only okay if YOU die, not them.

She, from her years of thinking it is okay to use government assistance, is not THEM. She doesn't deserve help...only they do.

[Ezlivin]

9. "I have always been against any type of government assistance of any kind..."

How does he avoid public highways?

[progressivebydesign]

12. and the minimum wage, courtesy of the Democrats and the Govt. n/t

[treestar]

79. Really! He works at mcdonald's and is so proud of it

so would he continue there for the pure market value, uninhibited by laws like the minimum wage? I mean he's such a hard worker.

[vanlassie]

20. His private schooling must have drained his accounts

hence the McDonalds job?

[Brickbat]

11. Dump her ass, obviously.

She's not good enough for you, kid.

[pepperbear]

13. how about this, skippy...take a deep breath and admit to yourself and to others.....

what the canadians, the french, the english, and yes, even the cubans have known for a long time: that access to medical care is too important to be a "privilege."

then you're not a hypocrite anymore.

[chalky]

64. + 1,000,000

HEL-lo.

[southernyankeebelle]

14. OMG a 20 yr old still not wet enough behind his ears. Love how judgemental these asses are.

What would he rather see his girlfriend die? He still is young and a lot of growing up to do. Wait til his parents get old and are on Medicare. He'll be thankful they are because they will die without it. I wonder if he would help his parents if they didn't have health care.

[Ken Burch]

51. You're assuming he LIKES his parents, though.

Getting them out of the way A.S.A.P might be part of his "business plan".

If so, I'd recommend full autopsies whenever Mom and Pop shuffle off this mortal coil.

[southernyankeebelle]

86. Gee I never thought about that.

[Neurotica]

15. My conservative BIL plans to use Medicaid to pay for his healthcare

He doesn't have a real job, and doesn't have plans to get one (he lives with my MIL). He is 40 BTW and able-bodied, just lazy and, dare I say it, ignorant.

He calls President Obama a "socialist" yet he says he intends to rely on Medicaid to cover his health care, etc.

<<sound of head hitting desk in frustration>>

I can't wait to see how he reacts to the Ryan pick. Talk about voting against your own best interest!

[pscot]

87. Paul Ryan used his Social Security survivors benefit

to defray his college tuition. His father died when Ryan was 16. They were well off and Ryan was able to save the money and use it for his tuition at Miami of Ohio, which costs about $29K/year currently. The benefit for minor children expires at age 18, but his mother has been getting a check from the government every month for the last 26 years.

[kestrel91316]

17. Medicare is not available to 18-yr-olds. He has it confused with Medicaid.

[Ken Burch]

53. That...or he's actually dating an 80-year-old.

(Dude sounds like he might be really bad at basic math).

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

19. Sad, isn't it?

Brainwashed to vote against their own interests. And Paul Ryan is the poster boy for the selfish.

[Tom Ripley]

21. Maybe she will leave him, and he will have to return to jerking off to his well-worn copy...

of "Atlas Shrugged"

[Ken Burch]

54. That author photo of Ayn Rand...

...must be REALLY blurry and sticky by now.

[renate]

22. well, at least he's aware that there's a conundrum

As opposed to the "keep the government's hands off my Medicare" folks.

I think he's unaware of what his life would actually be like without "government assistance" (unless he's never gone to school or driven on highways), but at least he's asking the right question.

[Marrah_G]

23. What a selfish piece of shit

So she can die while she is supporting YOU through school?

[Autumn]

24. Young man. Do the only honorable thing you can do,

tell her to use the republican health care plan. Pay for it on your own or die.

[Zalatix]

25. I smell a troll. A crafty liberal troll.

That post is PERFECTLY designed to purple nurple the Ron Paulites.

The dead giveaway wasn't the "public assistance or let her die" line... it was the "she works to support us while I go to college" typical jab at the stereotype of the (in this case) semi-freeloading conservative.

[Go Vols]

30. yep

more stupid stories besides the OP's.


http://www.dailypaul.com/248463/my-girlfriend-wants-to-be-on-medicare-for-her-inhaler-what-should-i-do

[vaberella]

43. Exactly what I see. It's way too well versed. He, if it is a he, is not very crafty. n/t

[Zalatix]

58. Smart enough to fool the dumbass Paulites, though.

Although that doesn't really refute your statement.

[vaberella]

72. True. They think a battery operated dog that does backflips is real. n/t

[Comrade_McKenzie]

61. I wouldn't doubt it.

But I've seen kookier and more calloused things come from the other side's message boards.

If it is a troll and that troll is here on DU, keep up the good work.

[NNN0LHI]

85. I think you may be onto something there

[tammywammy]

92. +1 n/t

[EC]

26. Yeah,

I guess when one has to be a responsible adult it can be hard to rationalize stupid. The responsible thing to do would be to take care of ones health so one can proceed forward to a level where they no longer need help.

[appleannie1]

27. What kind of person would rather his girlfriend not be able to breathe than to use an inhaler. She

better hope she does not get really sick or pregnant and need a doctor.

[nobodyspecial]

28. He doesn't believe in government help

but believes in his girlfriend supporting his ass while he goes to school. Way to stand on your own two feet and make it on your own, asshole.

So does he dump her when he's finished? Or insist she has babies instead of going to college when it's her turn?

[demtenjeep]

29. she better leave his ass. She will be sorry for the rest of her life with him

she is working so he can get a degree and he says she can't have medicine? What is next ... he doesn't want her to use Birthcontrol? So she will have 4 babies while he is in college she will never get there?


God what is wrong with people

[Zalatix]

33. Are Paulites/Randites large family people? I see them as being too selfish for that.

I imagine they are big fans of abortion and birth control, particularly due to their selfish angle on life. Ayn Rand most certainly would be in favor of it. I don't even think she had any kids.

Of course I think the Daily Paul letter in the OP was a well-thought out liberal troll piece, but that's aside the point.

[Webster Green]

32. I know that some of the inhalers are insanely expensive.

Like a couple hundred dollars for a month supply (or more). They probably cost about 65 cents to produce.

This dumbass is obviously brainwashed by teabagger parents. Very sad.

[itsrobert]

34. Here's link

http://www.dailypaul.com/248463/my-girlfriend-wants-to-be-on-medicare-for-her-inhaler-what-should-i-do

[Renew Deal]

35. Do paulbots support reperations for slavery?

I've said it a million times.

Submitted by wolfe on Sat, 08/11/2012 - 14:17. Permalink


The evil is in the theft, not in reclaiming what was stolen.

Take back all you can from the system that has enslaved you your whole life.

And don't ever tell someone to not claim what is theirs. Fight the theft (taxation), and in the meantime claim back all that you can.

[Ken Burch]

66. Do paulbots think slavery was WRONG?

After all, they are big on "property rights".

[Ken Burch]

37. To this "man"s girlfriend, I can only offer the advice of a truly wise "lolcat"

[Nay]

91. LOLOL!! I'm gonna have to use that "DTMFA" somewhere. nt

[vaberella]

41. I think he's someone trolling a right wing site.

Normally a person who loves his girlfriend and sees her in need of medication. Especially the girlfriend who's helping him through college and putting her own education on hold for him---would never ever deny the woman he loves her medication. He is putting that out there to show how disconnected these fools really are.

He's a liberal trolling. Seems pretty obvious to me.

[Ken Burch]

42. If you aren't sure your girlfriend's life is worth more than your damn ideology...

...Well, I'll just let 1980's Bill Murray say it...

[Ken Burch]

44. Is he paying his own damn tuition?

tough to pull THAT off with a part-time job.

[standingtall]

45. Nah I dont think he is trolling that site

After reviewing his posting history. He is simply another confused teabagger who doesn't live in reality.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

46. If I were his freshman English teacher, I would mark him down for capitalization, spelling,

and punctuation.

[Monk06]

47. She's working at McDonalds to put him through college and he begrudges her subsidized Ventolin?

What an asshole!!

[Ken Burch]

50. Inhaling fry grease particulates is probably making her asthma a LOT worse.

If she doesn't dump this creep, she needs to put "vasectomy NOW!" language into the pre-nup.

[Monk06]

57. You are 100% right about inhaling trans fat vapors. People who work manufacturing microwave popcorn

are dying from it. I have COPD so I know deal about lung damage from inhaling chemicals.

back to the topic the guy is a prick and she should get away from him. He has all the makings of a wife beater.

[Zalatix]

65. This makes a GREAT case for stronger workplace safety measures.

But the Daily Paulites wouldn't be in favor of that...

[Ken Burch]

68. She may need to be rescued.

If this is in the pattern of a true abusive relationship, it takes a woman between six and eight attempts at leaving to actually break free from her abuser for good(my wife, who was in abusive relationships before we met and then worked as an advocate at the woman's shelter here after her escape from her last abuser), educated me on that before the toll the abuse inflicted on her body and soul helped bring about her early death.

[kestrel91316]

90. You're not allowed to discuss your PERSONAL experiences

here on DU. It's not a valid way to contribute to the discussion.

At least this is what one DUer (a suspiciously new one) recently told me when we were talking about mental illness. Apparently only statistics and research and published articles give us valid information.

[Douglas Carpenter]

48. I recall a staunch British Conservative I worked with years ago - an uncompromising Thatcherite

to the core of her soul - and she was absolutely appalled and disgusted with the American idea that needed healthcare had to be paid for even if it was an absolute necessity and the person couldn't afford it. This was patently immoral. The notion of not providing needed healthcare to people who are ill is some sort of craven and depraved notion that has somehow been sold to major sections of the American public - a notion way too extreme for conservatives of any other democracy

[BillyJack]

60. +1000

you said something very very important:

...This was patently immoral. The notion of not providing needed healthcare to people who are ill is some sort of craven and depraved notion that has somehow been sold to major sections of the American public - a notion way too extreme for conservatives of any other democracy.

[smirkymonkey]

96. I hope you punched her in the face.

[ohheckyeah]

49. I like the comment from the person

who said he/she has asthma exorcised induced. LOL

Poor girl - as soon as this ass gets his degree he will most likely dump her for someone else.

[arthritisR_US]

55. So she is waiting for college so she can support

him while he goes to college ... sounds like he has no problem with hand outs just who they come from. Their cognitive dissonance astounds me!

[fainaent]

56. I grew up in a strongly conservative home

Only to find out that things aren't always black/white like I had been taught.

I'm still re-evaluating my political beliefs, but personal experience has taught me the value of social programs.

[WinkyDink]

74. Why did you need "personal experience," rather than simple observation of your society?

[fainaent]

75. A few reasons...

First, it's not always that easy to shed your childhood teachings. When you have an explanation for something given to you, sometimes you have to experience why it's not necessarily a good explanation.

Second, I'm a bit of a recluse. I spent more time doing my job, doing my studies, and spending time at home with my family. Not really much observation of society was going on.

Third, I wasn't really interested in politics. I just recently started joining in on discussions to hear other viewpoints.

That's why I needed "personal experience".

[still_one]

62. Medicare and social security are not entitlements they are insurance and annuities that we paid into

The right winger is an idiot, but I am also confused. Medicare is for those 65 or older, and he is 20 years old?

Is he dating a person 45 years older than himself, or did he mean Medicare?

These are safety net programs. What does he want people to die. What an immoral an unethical bastard

[Raine]

63. Well obviously "let her die"

wasn't that the advice given during the repuke debates.

[IndyJones]

67. Reads more like a post trying to stir the pot.

[IndyJones]

69. If this is not a troll post and is real, then why is he okay with allowing his gf to pay his way?

If he's so against it, then maybe he should take a full time job to pay for it rather than live off her dole.

[Ken Burch]

70. he probably thinks it "a woman's place" or some shit like that.

Most likely, when it's her turn for college, he'll find some excuse to make her skip it. Guys like that can't handle women with educations OR women who might be more employable than they are.

[treestar]

80. True have you noticed how government assistance is so evil but family and other assistance

is just fine with them? Why wouldn't it be an equal blow to their pride? That is, if they were consistent.

What interests me is if they would help their family. Probably they would think someone else (the rest of society) should, and would come up with justifications why they "can't" help their family members.

[WinkyDink]

73. He'll either watch his GF wheeze, or he'll become a Democrat.

[Jim__]

76. "Who would i be to say you don't need government assistance when my own girlfriend uses it?"

Actually, who are you to say it in any circumstance? If you couldn't imagine circumstances like the one your girlfriend is in, then you really haven't thought about it very much and ought to try giving it some thought before passing judgement on "those people."

[drm604]

77. I think it's probably Medicaid, not Medicare.

In any case, if this guy had any sense or compassion, this would be the learning experience that changes his thinking.

"that's what the lazy and the democrats do"

No dude, that's what people with serious health problems who can't afford their medicine do.

I'd bet if it was him with the problem, and he couldn't afford the treatment, he'd find a way to justify it to himself. His girlfriend... well ideology is more important than girlfriends. You can always get a new girlfriend.

[justiceischeap]

84. If this post is real, it makes me wonder whether he knows any Repubs

on unemployment benefits. I can't imagine every unemployed person is a Democrat. Do the Repubs not file for unemployment bennies out of principle? I bet somewhere in the US, registered Repubs collect food stamps, probably the same one's collecting unemployment.

People who think like this kid live in a bubble of, apparently, their parents and own making while listening to Faux news tell them that the only people who get government assistance are Dems and those dark skinned folks. If the grease from the french fry fryer burns this dude, I don't want him collecting worker's comp because that would be taking government assistance, right?

[jwirr]

88. At least he understands the concept of hypocrisy. But he does not seem to understand the idea of

love. She should give up her meds so he can be against all government assistance. She should run in the other direction as fast as she can.

[frogmarch]

94. His girlfriend needs to dump his

sorry ass. What a jerk. Regardless of what he thinks about health care assistance, what she does is none of his effing business. Who the hell does he think he is?