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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI want to say something about Trump's fat ass.
I also have a fat ass. I've had it all my life. My weight goes up on less than 1000 calories a day. Multiple attempts to not have a fat ass with super low calorie Dr. monitored diets have screwed up my heart and my metabolism. Thanks to finally finding the right combination of food at the right time of day I've managed to lose 150 pounds in a year. I still have a VERY fat ass. I am over 70. I will probably still have a fat ass when I die. I was born round. I will die round.
So it bothers me when we demean Trump for his fat ass. There's a lot of shit to demean with Trump. Please can his fat ass not be one of them? I should think we are better than that.
Thank you.
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mahina
(20,634 posts)I’d like to know what the timing and food combo that worked for you is, and how you found it, but I’m really more than anything down with not fat shaming Trump, as if that is somehow more worthy of oxygen than his monstrous actions.
PS, I just binge-watched Dietland. It was refreshing to watch a whole series with a plus sized female lead. I’d give it a solid 7.5
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5869202/videoplayer/vi2621683737?ref_=tt_ov_vi
KentuckyWoman
(7,398 posts)Not exact but basically.
Carbs at breakfast only. Either fruit or grain but not both. Also protein.
1 egg and actual bread (not the cheap kind) or fruit and yogurt... etc.
3 hrs later snack with fiber and water. Crunchy works best. ... a few carbs OK. Carrot, apples etc. I tend to go for lettuce or cucumbers a lot.
Lunch = a cup of veggies and 2oz protein. minimal carbs.
2 hrs later = minimal carb snack. ( Sliced cucumber from vinegar water)
Dinner = 2 oz protein. 1 cup veggies. All the salad I want
bedtime = small handful of nuts and sometimes an orange or a few grapes for my sweet tooth. (but that is cheating)
minimal oil. No sweetners. No juice. No processed food. No adding salt. I must eat all the snacks.
I cheat a little bit on Sunday carb wise but not calorie wise.
mahina
(20,634 posts)I’ll try too, again.
Ninga
(9,012 posts)your success.
Bravo!
I totally understand and get your struggle and am so happy you found the key to what works for,you!
moriah
(8,312 posts)I used something like it after buying their food and realizing how much of a ripoff it was, but I chose the non-diabetic plan.
Their plan, buying my own food vs the prepackaged plus the fresh items, and a third-party web food diary, however... and I lost 100 over two years (though I was admittedly not going for more than 1-2 lbs per week, to hopefully avoid as much loose skin).
Still, even when you have a healthy BMI, having been 100 lbs more worth of skin, even if you wear size 4 jeans.... when you sit without the benefit of jeans and can see your thighs, you feel fat. (The skin spreads.)
Essentially it was 3 servings protein, 2 servings of fruit, at LEAST 5 servings of high-roughage, low calorie vegetables, and one tiny amount of fat, tracking the calories for all of that, and choosing items to eat along with all of that to make my calorie goal, with a 100 calorie variation allowed from my goal either way (but no more and no less). 3 small meals, three reasonable snacks. I did make sure to schedule 2-4 "cheat days" a month, either when I would be away from my fridge or wanted to eat out that day. I didn't mind if it set me back a pound or two over the whole month, it made it easier to stick to, and potentially kept me from hitting a metabolic plateau as often.
I also attempted when eating out to focus on vegetables, then protein, and then the carbs.
As I lost, it was easier to incorporate exercise (had dislocated a kneecap and it didn't like carrying weight) into my life, if nothing other than walking on breaks. As I did start exercising more, I hit a "plateau" a few times in weight loss. The solution given by people was to keep exercising, but add one additional protein in my day and accept the additional calories. Essentially, when I wasn't burning fuel, my metabolism was slower, and my calorie goal to lose at first was lower than needed to survive with more activity. If exercise is being added gradually, one will improve their basal metabolic rate. Or perhaps just the fresh vitamins helped.
Either way, it actually was hard to *stop* eating like I was dieting, and I had to adjust significantly to maintain without undershooting a weight that actually looked good on me. I also had several points where my back, adjusting to carrying less weight, twigged out on me. During those times (like about every 20-30 lbs at first, then at 10-15 lbs) I would have to stretch more in the evenings and mornings and pop an ibuprofen, kept walking.
But the plan you're using sounds very similar to what worked for me, so I wanted to give you a gratz for your success and vouch the idea worked.
SunSeeker
(58,248 posts)
olegramps
(8,200 posts)
get the red out
(14,031 posts)And I am sorry, I have caught myself saying that (at least not posting that). Everyone's metabolism is different, my sister has weight issues and I don't, I am certain I eat more that she does! And if I put on a few pounds I can lose it much easier. She just got a worse roll of the genetic dice so far as metabolism (she got the better roll on other things, believe me!)
I think people are incredibly frustrated and likely to throw everything they have at Trump. Not to excuse it, he is simply evil and we are yelling into the wind.
TheBlackAdder
(29,981 posts).
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trixie2
(905 posts)
Croney
(5,009 posts)I, too, am over 70, and my weight has gone up and down over the years. I'm now in a healthy routine where I am mindful of calories and exercise every day, and I think I look good. Congratulations on losing 150 pounds! Our fat asses are in style, you know. Women pay big bucks to get theirs pumped up!
When you look at President Obama's level of fitness, compared to the Orange Idiot's, it's hard not to fat-shame the latter. I don't mind when people do it, but I understand why you do.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)But let me just say, if the bastard wasn't LYING ABOUT his weight, I honestly think only very, very few people here would be making any sort of issue about it. At least, I hope not ...
I believe it's about the lying, and not about the weight itself, in the vast majority of cases when DU'ers bring it up.
And I honestly wish and hope for you ... that when you hear/perceive insults of this nature from your fellow DU'ers towards IQ45, you can see your way clear to keep that idea in mind, and I hope that it will not hurt/affect you personally.
Also, it sounds like you're in no way a profligate consumer of Big Macs and KFC buckets ... not that there's anything WRONG with that ... of course, but ...
I wish you the best of luck in continuing to find solutions to bolster your health and self-image ... my mom has struggled with weight her whole life, and I know how tough on a person it can be 
Ms. Toad
(38,594 posts)Last edited Mon Sep 10, 2018, 12:52 PM - Edit history (1)
Leave the fat ass insults on the cutting room floor.
FWIW, if you truly believe it is about the lying, not the fat, read the thread about the plus size model on the cover of Cosmopolitan. It's about the fat, not the lying.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Marrah_Goodman
(1,587 posts)How dare she be called beautiful. Only thin or fit people can be attractive. It was disgusting the things people on here were saying.
Ms. Toad
(38,594 posts)"Cleverly" disguised as concern for her health - although some were blatant expressions of disgust.
https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100211073274
One of the reasons I don't accept it when people say, "It isn't the XYZ, it is the lying/hypocrisy/etc."
pnwmom
(110,254 posts)According to Lassek, fat around the bum and thigh is particularly hard to shift after giving birth as our bodies have evolved to accumulate these fats and hold on to them for as long as possible for the good of our children.
David Bainbridge, a reproductive biologist at Cambridge University, added: “The brain-building breast-milk lipids are largely derived from the fat stored in a mother’s thighs and buttocks.
“Women with larger thighs have higher levels of these lipids. There is even evidence that they and their children are more intelligent as a result.”
KentuckyWoman
(7,398 posts)Technically it is calories in vs calories out. I always felt bad that no matter how many times I passed up the burger, the dessert, the whatever I still ended up eating more than I need..... and there are people with not enough. It is astonishing to me we live in such a land of plenty that we actually have to careful what we eat.
Unless you are my brother in law. Then you can gobble up 8000 calories a day and be a stick. I hate his guts. hahaha
Good addition to the thread... thanks for posting. 
IronLionZion
(51,205 posts)and I thank my mother for my intelligence
JI7
(93,563 posts)and his claims of being a certain size which he clearly is not.
also, fat asses on women are usually a positive thing.
KentuckyWoman
(7,398 posts)He's clearly well over 300 pounds. I feel sorry for him that he can't own it, but I understand lying about it. Most fat people do.
I also understand trashing him for yet one more lie on top of all the other lies.
Doctors and DMV workers will tell you men tend to add an inch in height and women tend to drop 10 pounds on weight.
No Vested Interest
(5,297 posts)Not me.
30 or 40 years ago the DMV clerk typed in "180" in the lbs. section.
At each renewal I just nod "yes" when asked if this is still the same.
Believe me, it's multiples of the 10 lbs. women typically subtract.
My next renewal in a few months may well be my last driver's license renewal, and I'll go to my grave with that long ago weight recorded on my license.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,781 posts)it can harm a person's self-esteem and even more importantly it's a bad example for our youth. We know that negative commentary toward children can retard their development or even lead to self-harm.
I will admit it is most difficult to resist comments toward people like Trump who are narcissistic, racist and arrogant, and who feel totally free to brutally criticize others he doesn't like.
However, he does have plenty of other bad attributes other than physical ones that can satisfy our craving to criticize....
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)kag
(4,197 posts)HIS ginormous ass just sits there and tweets out stupid shit all day. I'm quite certain Queen was never inspired by ANY anatomical part of Cheetohlini.
But seriously, congrats on the healthier you. And you are quite right that there is more than enough about Spanky McDump to fill lots of OP's from now until we are mercifully rid of him.
mindfulNJ
(2,447 posts)..it's the ass the fat ass is on.
Squinch
(59,446 posts)
barbtries
(31,300 posts)and well aware of it. been fighting the fat for over 50 years and now i'm playing chicken with diabetes.
with trump it's giving him a dose of his own medicine. he publicly shamed one of "his" beauty contest winners for putting on weight. he routinely judges women by their looks (and men re: christie). so for me it's not that he's fat (so am i), it's that he's a hypocrite and a misogynist.
having said that i don't fat shame him. but don't take it personally when others do either.
by the way! great work losing 150 pounds!! I should lose 100 but am shooting for 5 at a time because it is so hard and over the past year i have gained and must turn that around.
jcgoldie
(12,046 posts)He also lies about it in obvious fashion and by all reports he brings it upon himself by eating a diet for shit... two big macs, two filet of fish and a chocolate malt in one sitting? For him unlike some people who struggle conscientiously with it, his weight is just another symptom of his gluttony.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)
Martin Eden
(15,587 posts)The fat is visible when he opens his mouth.
Rabrrrrrr
(58,374 posts)As you say, we should be better than that.
Vinca
(53,945 posts)The tub of orange lard has spent his entire life demeaning people whether it's body shaming or calling them losers or stupid. If he happened upon you, a woman who probably hasn't seen a size 2 since second grade (like me), he wouldn't hesitate to critique your appearance. Yeah, yeah, yeah . . . . "we're better than that." Don't bother to post it. I agree we are better than that, but in this instance I think we should fight back in kind because that's all the fool understands.
On edit: Congratulations on your weight loss. I'm nearly 70 and have come to face the reality I'll never be in the single digits again when it comes to clothes. From the teenage days of diet soda and diet Jell-O diets to the Diet Center diet and cabbage soup diet, I've finally come to peace with it all. That said, I have a doctor's appointment today and expect to be lectured at . . . again. LOL.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)Vinca
(53,945 posts)Never grow up!
watoos
(7,142 posts)and I agree with it, except.....there are no rules with Trump. Fuck him and his lying about his weight. What's next, agreeing with him that his hair is beautiful? I know people who do the combover and I love and respect them but Trump's combover looks horrible.
My point is that I will say anything that upsets Trump because I want to make him regret ever running for president. Presidents get scrutinized and deservedly so, this president hasn't followed the rules; no release of taxes, no real medical exam let alone mental exam, no divesting of his "businesses. Do you see where I am going with this? Trump shouldn't be treated with kid gloves, he is a dangerous, mentally ill animal who has never been held accountable for anything he did in his life.
logosoco
(3,211 posts)Over the past year or so, I have lost 35 pounds, bringing me down to a good weight for my height (I had gestational diabetes twice and was told to watch my weight in my 40s and I was a decade late on that but finally I am in a good spot on weight!). One disadvantage is that I lost my ass padding and it does make sitting on hard surfaces a bit uncomfortable! SO there is something good in having an ass (but not having an ass for a president!)
imanamerican63
(16,157 posts)when we see Trump mock the disable, mock women for their looks, mocks others for their heritage, mocks others for their beliefs, mocks others for their wealth, mocks others because they don't agree with him! When he stops insulting others, I will stop making fun of his weight! Btw, I am 5'6" and 240 lbs, I am over weight too! I do have a fat ass!
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Insult him for his fascism, or dishonesty, his greed, his callousness.
imanamerican63
(16,157 posts)
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)imanamerican63
(16,157 posts) 
treestar
(82,383 posts)And though he may piss us off at times, he is not an evil con man.
TNNurse
(7,537 posts)Or the fact that he has no interest in learning his job. Or maybe the fact that he cares only for himself. We can ignore his appearance entirely but he does brag about how good looking he is so he is sort of asking for it.
By the way, I used to be pretty holier than thou about people not being able to quit smoking. I did that right up until the first time I tried to lose weight. For most of us both of those endeavours is damn hard. Congrats on your weight loss, it is impressive.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)are beating mattresses with their bats instead of smacking factual line drives at his head. But I do hope you won't be offended when pounding Trump's ass continues. Restraint is not a common denominator in those who play this game.
I'm overweight myself with age, and even when young I was able to supply my children with plenty of brain-building nutrients (to good effect ). But I don't feel any connection between the eager trashing of every aspect of Trump that badmouthers can come up with and my weight.
Blow it off. And congrats on the very impressive weight loss. Have you posted on DU about the combo that works for you?
KentuckyWoman
(7,398 posts)but it bothers me because I hold progressives to a higher standard. Maybe I shouldn't but I do.
Reality is Trump IS an ass. He is also a fat one. Calling him a fat ass is certainly factual but the body shaming part we can maybe skip.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)and am a believer in the greatness of liberalism and the critical importance of liberals to successful societies, but political forums don't exactly encourage over-idealizing.
snort
(2,334 posts)but I'll give it a try.
FM123
(10,371 posts)There is just so much about this idiot that needs to be addressed, his weight should be like 999 on the list....
peekaloo
(22,977 posts)Another lie.
People who are inherently bad bring out the worst in others.
I will try to be better.
SWBTATTReg
(26,252 posts)nice, it's brutal, harsh, and destructive. It should be, otherwise it will go on forever. rump is not following any rules so I'm not either.
He's crossed the line numerous times and so has a lot of his enablers, so it's not an isolated incident. Why all of a sudden are we wanting to 'be nice' to this very rude people? I wonder what their true motive is...
peekaloo
(22,977 posts)rather a sensitivity issue for others.
I'm fortunate to never have had a weight issue and I think that's what the OP was trying to get across.
I personally don't buy into that "we're better than they are" line of defense when it comes to insults/name calling whatever, it's just sometimes recognizing the collateral damage words may have does give me pause.
Donald Trump is a motherfucking piece of shit and an all around asshole. Nothing about that statement makes me reconsider my intent. 
oberliner
(58,724 posts)I agree that people should lay off the fat jokes.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Plenty of people her obviously think that insulting someone for their weight is perfectly acceptable.
It's wrong and disgusting.
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,922 posts)Texin
(2,851 posts)That said. (And I am speaking ONLY about tRump, here not you nor anyone else). Cheetolini was not born with a fat ass. His family genetics didn't give him a fat ass or massive belly. Photographs from his early youth and well into the mid-90s depict him as a relatively fit-looking man in his fifties. He didn't look to have an ounce of fat anywhere, especially his belly or butt. Do people get heavier with age? Yes. Many - indeed, most - do put on more adipose tissue from the age of about 50 and into their elder years. Many don't. Cheetolini's weight gain is due not only to fact that metabolism slows a percentage over the age of about 30 by about 10% for most people, and thereafter about every 5 years by several percentage points. Metabolism is hard to challenge with diet and decreases - as many know - with more stringent low calorie dieting. The effects of that coupled with any reduced activity level will cause weight gain.
In tRump's case, he has a lifelong addiction to fast food, and has sustained a relatively sedentary lifestyle from middle age forward, and from everything I've read, he wasn't that particularly active physically in any structured way throughout his life. Golf is a pretty good activity if one walks the courses and carries his or her own clubs around. Sitting in a golf cart and having one's caddy hoist and carry the heavy clubs ain't a substitute for walking. If you factor in the stress levels this stooge has placed himself in willingly, which raises cortisol - the stress hormone - it's a guarantee of increased weight gain and fat accumulation, especially in the belly and ass.
I don't speak about anyone else in this. I know that there are a great many people who have an endomorphic body type, and trying to stave off the effects of the American convenience food diet and oftentimes a sedentary lifestyle, coupled with endemic stress factors, it is very difficult if not impossible to change the body type to lose weight. But, this is not Cheetolini's problem.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Shame. Plain and simple. But Trump doesn't feel shame and we know that, even IF he saw what was written here.
The only thing such shaming does is affect people HERE who might have an eating disorder. And I can assure you, there are plenty.
Do as you will, but understand that fat shaming Trump doesn't hurt him a bit. It does hurt other people.
colorado_ufo
(6,250 posts)Beauty is in the eye of the beholder - and marketing. We have gone from, "Does this make my ass look big?" to people spending thousands upon thousands of dollars and physical pain to get butt implants.
Kim Kardashian has made a big ass something to be highly desired!
Kentucky Woman, you are sitting on a gold mine.
mnhtnbb
(33,333 posts)I admit I go back and forth on this one. I am 67 and just started last Friday a new daily plan of eating (not diet) designed to help me lose 50 lbs. I am overweight and know it. Some years ago I lost 40 lbs over 9 months, but then went back to my old habits and ignored getting on the scale and kept telling myself I will start next...paying attention to what I eat/drink. Gained it all back and then some.
So. I do not want to be an overweight old lady. I am trying to change using that description from "fat" to overweight when related to health descriptions and lose it when dissing someone--like 45--who can be dissed for so many other reasons. I don't take insults about weight targeted at someone else personally. In 45's case, as others have said, he dishes it out so it's a little like just giving him a taste of his own medicine.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)scheming daemons
(25,487 posts)(and I'm not. I'm 220.)
Ms. Toad
(38,594 posts)The fat shaming threads on DU that have nothing to do with Trump make it pretty clear that it is both.
Insulting him as a liar is fair game. Insulting him for being fat is not.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)You and I both acknowledge that we have fat asses. Donald Trump, on the other hand, goes to ridiculous lengths to deny that patently obvious fact about himself. When a person is that ridiculous, he is inviting ridicule, and it would be rude not to accommodate him.
MFM008
(20,042 posts)Maggot gets what he deserves.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)MFM008
(20,042 posts)I dont extend any courtesy to such a vile creature,
I am about 150 pounds overweight.
Even bariatric surgery failed for me.
Im prepared to take the lumps.
I dont give an icy crap about name calling.
nolabear
(43,850 posts)I eat healthier than 75% of the people I know. I can gain weight on Weight Watchers. I’m in my 60s and have to exercise with care, not because of anything I have done or “deserve.”
I’ve got a GREAT book to recommend. Read The Secret Life of Fat by Sylvia Tara, PhD. Her research will open your eyes. It’s so much more complex than lay people understand.
I hate 45 with every ounce of my being-and there are a lot of them-but when people shame him for being fat they shame me. And shame is a health wrecker.
Solidarity. ❤️
radicalliberal
(907 posts)I work out on a bodybuilding program, but I don't go around judging people on the basis of their physique. When I was in high school, all the social climbing girls were pretty on the outside, but ugly -- I mean real ugly -- on the inside. I had no use for them.
progressoid
(53,145 posts)Can we mock that?
demigoddess
(6,675 posts)If you put your brains there you deserve whatever they call you!
apkhgp
(1,070 posts)I want to reply to you with the warmest caring and compassion. My earliest memories growing up were of my mother being overweight. She was not at a weight that hindered her from day to day, but it was noticeable. She tried diet pills and hypnotism, both of which DID NOT WORK ( I can not say that strongly enough ). It was only in the 1980’s when she went to Weight Watchers that she lost 100 pounds, and according to quite a few people around here “She looks fantastic”.
It was only recently that I learned she did not want people seeing pictures of her during her overweight period which I fully understand. To think of seeing this woman smiling in the picture but on the inside she is just falling apart. It hurts me just to think about it. As for me from my earliest age I was always underweight. I once saw a book talking about the “Neglected Underweight”. My mother would constantly tell me to eat more, eat more. Shortly after I turned thirty I started taking an enzyme pill which helped me to come closer to a healthy body weight.
The issue that I see as detrimental to society is advertising campaigns from a “Madison Avenue” type of culture. That being “Stay thin and body shame anyone that is overweight”.
Again I feel for you.
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NJCher
(43,102 posts)Or is it 'shopped? I've never seen anything like that before. Guess that long suit jacket serves a purpose?
NellieStarbuck
(271 posts)So, I understand. However, since Trump is the absolute worst at belittling people, especially women, for what he considers to be physical flaws, I feel I should, nay, MUST(!) point out his fat ass at every opportunity (and his vag neck and his lizard skin and his dead-animal hair and . . .) because I really, really think it bothers him. Oh, and he's got tiny, baby hands, too!
Miles Archer
(23,094 posts)He is the poster child for "fat shamers," and he's tossing bricks from his glass house, but I refuse to sink to his level.
I had a weight problem in high school that I resolved successfully, getting down to my "ideal" weight, and have maintained a healthy weight since, so I have developed my own sensitivity to obesity issues. I've been there.
I have posted, and will continue to post, what I consider to be "unflattering photos" of him, but hell...show me a photo of Trump that isn't unflattering. What I refrain from is any of the photos that have captions that comment on his appearance. A picture's worth 1000 words and that's how I deal with Trump photos.
Initech
(108,683 posts)And yes I too have struggled with it for many years. My biggest problem with Trump is that his claim that he's only 239 pounds is, shall we say, 100% bullshit. Not only that, it's an insult to those of us who have struggled with it. But the other thing is - he doesn't seem to give a shit either. His "diet" of Diet Cokes, 2 scoops of ice cream, burnt steaks covered with ketchup, and Big Macs in bed, can't be even the slightest bit healthy. There is no way in hell Trump is 239.
DarleenMB
(408 posts)Am currently reading "Eat Fat, Get Thin: Why the Fat We Eat Is the Key to Sustained Weight Loss and Vibrant Health" by Mark Hyman M.D.
It's a real eye opener. Now I know why being on Jenny Craig's 1200 calorie a day diet makes me so tired and slows my heart rate and my metabolism down to a crawl.
miffelplix
(57 posts)I understand your feelings.
If it were possible to engage with Trump supporters or persuadable independents voters on a purely intellectual level, I would do so. But it is not. They are however susceptible to branding, and many of them (unfortunately) have a deeply-ingrained animadversion against overweight people.
Portraying him as an overweight person is an effective satire against him, an effective way to brand him, an effective way to decrease his support.
The stakes are too high to pull punches. We are in an existential fight against Trump to save our democracy. If Trump wins in 2020, we are finished.
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Roadside Attraction
(238 posts)It's that Trump IS a Fat Ass. He's fat and he's an ass.
You seem to be keeping your weight under control -- congratulations. Trump, on the other hand, sucks up junk food and Diet Cokes.
SkyDancer
(561 posts)when many of us, myself included, have struggled and been harassed because of our weight.
Knock it off!
InAbLuEsTaTe
(25,518 posts)trixie2
(905 posts)I had a student comment that my butt would be great on a teenager. 
Trump has made vicious remarks about women's looks and deserves to know he is no Brad Pitt.
Permanut
(8,365 posts)but my two cents, just a little off of your central point, is that 150 pounds in a year is amazing, fantastic, awesome and incredible. Congrats on your success.
Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)I have a problem that he is a big ass. ☺
NJCher
(43,102 posts)Here it is: eat tiny little bites and eat slow, too. Go mildly low carb.
We break the "rules" at my house: we have our dinner while watching TV. It takes nearly an entire show (90 minutes) for me to finish a meal.
The downside to this is we throw out a lot of good food. We do give a lot of it away, but still, much too much gets thrown away and that makes me very sad. I try to get the house chef to make less, but I'm only modestly successful. I keep at it, though.
samplegirl
(13,965 posts)Demovictory9
(37,113 posts)mythology
(9,527 posts)Oh sure, I'm not making fun of you, just this other person for the same characteristic you have.
Mock Trump for being utterly incompetent, for being a compulsive liar, for his reprehensible behavior, etc. But stuff like his looks, that's just childlike.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)We ought to point out his selfish ass.
We need to worry about his childish ass.
Concern is warranted for his erratic ass.
Everyone, call out his unfit ass.