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Cyrano

(15,031 posts)
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 12:14 PM Sep 2018

Rachel Maddow's words may make it to the Smithsonian

Almost everyone has seen the video of Walter Cronkite reacting to John Kennedy's assassination. At the time, everyone already knew that Kennedy had been shot in Dallas and feared for the worst. But Kennedy's death wasn't "official" until Walter Cronkite took off his glasses, turned to the camera and, straining to keep his voice steady, said: "President Kennedy is dead."

Last night, Rachel Maddow interviewed Bob Woodward on his book "Fear." After the show was over, she spent about two minutes chatting with Lawrence O'Donnell whose show follows hers. Their chatter is normal, but last night, she came out with a statement for the ages and one that may end up in the Smithonian.

She was referring to specific passages in Woodward's book. But, imo, she was referring to the incredible, unlikely, mind-boggling fact that Donald Trump is occupying the Oval Office.

She said: "It's why dogs aren't allowed to drive cars."

O'Donnell laughed, held up a copy of Woodward's book "Fear," and said it will be the subtitle on the second printing: "'Fear'" It's Why Dogs Aren't Allowed to Drive Cars"

IMO, Rachel's comment may be a giant coffin nail in Trump's pResidency. For all the millions of words that have been written about Trump, none have been more devastating than indirectly comparing him to a dog that shouldn't be driving a car.

It seems likely that some 50 or more years from now, some documentary will cover, on whatever media exists in the future, the historical tape of Cronkite declaring a president dead, -- a historic moment, -- and a clip of Rachel Maddow referring to Donald Trump with the quip: "It's why they don't let dogs drive cars."

Both statements refer to horrific moments: One, a tragic announcement of loss; The other, a simple yet brilliant statement of a deadly threat to American democracy.

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Rachel Maddow's words may make it to the Smithsonian (Original Post) Cyrano Sep 2018 OP
As I'm reading your post, that Subaru ad featuring a dog backing the car in and hitting the mailbox OnDoutside Sep 2018 #1
I like two. One where parents drop off kid at obedience school. The other is the doggie car wash. TheBlackAdder Sep 2018 #4
Subaru commercials always make me laugh (dogs only) or cry (kids & dogs) lagomorph777 Sep 2018 #19
I like the one where doggy husband Grammy23 Sep 2018 #25
"It's why dogs aren't allowed to drive cars." erlewyne Sep 2018 #8
When Rachel said that, tosh Sep 2018 #17
I agree. Subaru has a winning compaign strategy with the Barkleys. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Sep 2018 #22
Aww. sandensea Sep 2018 #24
LOVE it ! OnDoutside Sep 2018 #30
Precious, love Subaru & Pooches! appalachiablue Sep 2018 #41
That's the one xxqqqzme Sep 2018 #45
+1 uponit7771 Sep 2018 #47
Since so many of you liked that ad, here's two more of my favorites: LastLiberal in PalmSprings Sep 2018 #50
I love synchronicities like that. Kind of Blue Sep 2018 #31
Never say never Botany Sep 2018 #2
"Professional driver on a closed course." colorado_ufo Sep 2018 #14
Oh noes! tosh Sep 2018 #18
Squirrel! Red Pest Sep 2018 #29
Certainly one of the most appropriate and memorable statements NoSmoke Sep 2018 #3
I just hope her dog doesn't hold grudges. I also home the publishers take up O'Donnel's suggestion mulsh Sep 2018 #5
Cats are worse: Liberalagogo Sep 2018 #6
It can't get worse than Trump as pResident Cyrano Sep 2018 #11
Senses of humor are on sale Liberalagogo Sep 2018 #28
Loves Toonces! colorado_ufo Sep 2018 #15
Only because Sophiegirl Sep 2018 #20
LOL! Historic NY Sep 2018 #48
and, considering how weird the deranged demagogue is about dogs. . . niyad Sep 2018 #7
I just posted below about Keith but did so before seeing your post. Kieth is brilliant. How he dated Pepsidog Sep 2018 #12
GMTA and all that!! niyad Sep 2018 #13
We haven't even hit the tip of the iceberg with this fiasco. In the coming months there will be mind Pepsidog Sep 2018 #9
Another mega-bullseye statement from Rachel. Paladin Sep 2018 #10
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2018 #16
Welcome to DU, Le Grand Pronounceur! calimary Sep 2018 #21
Thanks,calimary. Too late to fix here. Will use in the future Cyrano Sep 2018 #36
I don't think her statement will be what's remembered but I agree with her lunatica Sep 2018 #23
Let's discuss this 10 years from now Cyrano Sep 2018 #32
K&R Gothmog Sep 2018 #26
Can Trump actually drive a car? Capperdan Sep 2018 #27
The quote isn't available on a t-shirt, yet. (Google search) Paladin Sep 2018 #33
Yep. Sure as hell it will soon be available Cyrano Sep 2018 #34
I'm sorry, but NO. Goodheart Sep 2018 #35
What a reach Awsi Dooger Sep 2018 #37
Let's revisit this 10 years from now and see where Cyrano Sep 2018 #38
Be realistic. It was a pithy comment, worth noting for that night. muriel_volestrangler Sep 2018 #49
It was a completely different era... Ferrets are Cool Sep 2018 #39
Agreed lunatica Sep 2018 #46
Great Post! Ferrets are Cool Sep 2018 #51
Not the Smithsonian, maybe. But probably in a documentary. That's a great comparison. nt Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #40
"Dogs love trucks" ad area51 Sep 2018 #42
There are SO many moments from her, she'll need her own exhibit. Sparkly Sep 2018 #43
I guess Rachel is too young to know "fish needs a bicycle" csziggy Sep 2018 #44

OnDoutside

(19,952 posts)
1. As I'm reading your post, that Subaru ad featuring a dog backing the car in and hitting the mailbox
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 12:33 PM
Sep 2018

is on the tv !

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
25. I like the one where doggy husband
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 02:40 PM
Sep 2018

Picks up doggy wife from beauty salon....hilarious. Especially the whining and growling.

erlewyne

(1,115 posts)
8. "It's why dogs aren't allowed to drive cars."
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 01:45 PM
Sep 2018

I thought that was a strange analogy .... like where did that come from?

I wouldn't miss Rachel for the world and that line took me aback. It stuck
in my mind.

Now it is hilarious! Thanks DU,

Great topic ... made my day.

EW

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
45. That's the one
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 10:42 PM
Sep 2018

My favorite.

My son's dog barked at the mailman everyday, whether he could see him or not. As soon as the mailbox door opened, he started barking, as soon as it closed he stopped,

One day I was out front when the mail was delivered. The dog started barking. I said something like Oh that dog. Mailman looked at me and said "It's his job'.

So it was.

50. Since so many of you liked that ad, here's two more of my favorites:
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 09:35 AM
Sep 2018

"Eyes straight ahead, Buster!"



And dropping the puppy off for his first day of school:

colorado_ufo

(5,732 posts)
14. "Professional driver on a closed course."
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 01:57 PM
Sep 2018

"Do not attempt this at home."

Dog parallel parks better than I do!

Red Pest

(288 posts)
29. Squirrel!
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 02:51 PM
Sep 2018

The dogs are excellent and attentive drivers...then....squirrel!

Applies to Trump too, but he starts out as ill-mannered and self-centered and then a squirrel (or the equivalent, which can be anything) get his attention and he goes (more) nuts.

Actually, I shouldn't compare Agent Orange to dogs. Dogs are infinitely better than that failed human.

mulsh

(2,959 posts)
5. I just hope her dog doesn't hold grudges. I also home the publishers take up O'Donnel's suggestion
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 01:06 PM
Sep 2018

or at least put on the cover as a blurb.

Cyrano

(15,031 posts)
11. It can't get worse than Trump as pResident
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 01:47 PM
Sep 2018

I love the cute dog/cat driving pieces.

But they are movies, skits, gifs, etc.

The reality is that we have a madman in the White House with the power to press the Big Button. If that Big Button were on your living room floor, would you let your cat or dog near it?

Dear Duers, Americans, and all human beings who live on planet Earth: We are in danger because an ignorant, unhinged, really stupid man is "in charge." And if he decides to nuke someplace, -- North Korea, Iran, San Francisco, wherever, will some "anonymous" be there to stop him? Who knows?

So while I appreciate humorous posts of dogs/cats driving cars, I really care more about the survival and well being of our species.

Rachel threw it out there. "It's like a dog driving a car."

Do you really want your children/parents/relatives/close ones living in an environment in which the next moment or day may bring disaster or death because a man with zero empathy says so? I really don't believe that any sane person wants to live that way.

niyad

(113,229 posts)
7. and, considering how weird the deranged demagogue is about dogs. . .
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 01:40 PM
Sep 2018

WTF! Why is Trump Such a Weirdo About Dogs? | The Closer with Keith Olbermann | GQ

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
12. I just posted below about Keith but did so before seeing your post. Kieth is brilliant. How he dated
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 01:50 PM
Sep 2018

that piece of shit Ingraham I will never know.

niyad

(113,229 posts)
13. GMTA and all that!!
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 01:54 PM
Sep 2018

never understood about ingraham either. but, he did date Katy Tur for quite some time.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
9. We haven't even hit the tip of the iceberg with this fiasco. In the coming months there will be mind
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 01:46 PM
Sep 2018

boggling revelations about Trump, his campaign, and the Republican conspiracy of silence. While I agree Rachel’s statement is amusing and relevant, once the true horror of the Trump’s presidency is revealed, Rachel’s statement will seem understated and kind to Trump. While I’m no wordsmith, something like “It’s why you don’t deploy inter-continental ballistic nuclear missels to celebrate the 4th of July” is a more descriptive statement. I love Rachel, she and Keith Ohlberman, especially his “special comment” series that got me through the Bush era.

Paladin

(28,246 posts)
10. Another mega-bullseye statement from Rachel.
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 01:47 PM
Sep 2018

That one needs to be carved in granite somewhere prominent.

Response to Cyrano (Original post)

calimary

(81,192 posts)
21. Welcome to DU, Le Grand Pronounceur!
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 02:16 PM
Sep 2018

Undoubtedly someday. Maybe the set of the "Daily Show"? After all, that show has launched beaucoup de talent that's gone far in setting whole new parameters for comedy, from Jon Stewart to Colbert, Steve Carrell, John Oliver, Samantha Bee, Ed Helms, Trevor Noah, and many more.

As far as the actual Maddow quote, I have to offer a slight adjustment:

"it's the reason we don't let dogs drive cars."

I know because I was watching last night and I wrote it down immediately. I thought it was EPIC!

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
23. I don't think her statement will be what's remembered but I agree with her
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 02:20 PM
Sep 2018

I think a historic statement that will stick will be one that basically stands alone with little or no explanation. One that is repeated until it makes it into the general lexicon. My examples are:

One small step for man, one giant step for mankind.

Speak softly and carry a big stick

A date which will live in infamy

9/11

The buck stops here

At long last, have you no sense of decency

What did the President know and when did he know it.

Of course Rachel’s statement could make it into our historic lexicon, but it would have to be used and written about for a while. I don’t see a historical reference to it which is a common theme in the examples above.

Cyrano

(15,031 posts)
32. Let's discuss this 10 years from now
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 03:27 PM
Sep 2018

By then, we'll know for sure.

Walter Cronkite's iconic TV moment is not as well known as the quotes you mention. Nonetheless, most Americans have seen it and understand it.

Rachel's quip could become a famous clip in the same sense.

Capperdan

(492 posts)
27. Can Trump actually drive a car?
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 02:47 PM
Sep 2018

Wonder if he has a driver's license. He does know how to drive a golf cart on the greens.

Paladin

(28,246 posts)
33. The quote isn't available on a t-shirt, yet. (Google search)
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 03:32 PM
Sep 2018

I'm sure such shirts will be available, and when they are, I'm buying at least one.

Cyrano

(15,031 posts)
34. Yep. Sure as hell it will soon be available
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 03:36 PM
Sep 2018

Then again, you could get one made at any shop that prints tee shirts and start wearing it yourself. Lead.

Goodheart

(5,318 posts)
35. I'm sorry, but NO.
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 03:52 PM
Sep 2018

It doesn't work, in my view, because dogs are endlessly lovable.

Don't get me wrong... I love Rachel. Love her show. Love her intellect. But analogizing Trump to a dog is an extreme insult to the dog.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
37. What a reach
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 04:02 PM
Sep 2018

No odds against would be high enough. The Smithsonian is not going to glorify a comment that proposes a certain president was never worthy of being president.

That may play well in partisan headquarters, and it is certainly true regarding Donald Trump, but it is not the way the highest and most revered historical institutions operate.

The Rachel adoration around here reaches bizarre extremes. Apparently no time to stop and think.

For one thing, the frequent comparisons to Walter Cronkite are laughable. Cronkite spoke to the nation, not one slice of the nation, and he didn't insult every 30 minute program into 15 minutes then restated.

Cyrano

(15,031 posts)
38. Let's revisit this 10 years from now and see where
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 04:07 PM
Sep 2018

it falls on the scale of memorable historic moments/words.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,295 posts)
49. Be realistic. It was a pithy comment, worth noting for that night.
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 08:36 AM
Sep 2018

It's not as if it's being talked about generally. It's being talked about on one other discussion forum, and DU. The idea that it will be historic is laughable. It's just what she, and others, have said time after time. It's not surprising that she said it, and it's what her main audience already thought.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,105 posts)
39. It was a completely different era...
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 06:40 PM
Sep 2018

While I love Cronkite, he had no competition. In today's world, the pResident would be calling for his firing. It is laughable to compare the environment of that place in time with what is happening today in politics and "news".

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
46. Agreed
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 02:37 AM
Sep 2018

The nation was not divided in such a bizarre way. Shock radio was not a thing and there was no such thing as religion in politics like there is today. Nor was news partisan. We will probably never know what party Cronkite or any news person belonged to.

We believed Walter Cronkite because as far as we know he never lied to us, but I don’t recall any anchorman who we didn’t believe at the time. When he retired it kind of marked the end of an era in our history, though we didn’t know it. All this is hindsight.

csziggy

(34,135 posts)
44. I guess Rachel is too young to know "fish needs a bicycle"
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 09:56 PM
Sep 2018
Gloria Steinem had this to say in a letter she wrote to Time magazine in autumn 2000:

"In your note on my new and happy marital partnership with David Bale, you credit me with the witticism 'A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle.' In fact, Irina Dunn, a distinguished Australian educator, journalist and politician, coined the phrase back in 1970 when she was a student at the University of Sydney. She paraphrased the philosopher who said, 'Man needs God like fish needs a bicycle.' Dunn deserves credit for creating such a popular and durable spoof of the old idea that women need men more than vice versa."

https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/414150.html

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