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LAS14

(15,506 posts)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 05:56 PM Sep 2018

How come yesterday on DU it was "Manafort pleads guilty - no cooperation?"

And today, "this afternoon" Manafort pleads guilty. AND he's cooperating. Where did those stories come from yesterday? I didn't get my usual dose of MSM yesterday.

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How come yesterday on DU it was "Manafort pleads guilty - no cooperation?" (Original Post) LAS14 Sep 2018 OP
It was the usual collection of Debbie Downers, naysayers and crepe-hangers The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #1
Exactly 1000 percent Bradshaw3 Sep 2018 #15
They are warming up to launch the downer posts just before the midterms. Blue_true Sep 2018 #17
Or it was an op on Trump jberryhill Sep 2018 #19
Rhymes with Judy (likely)... hlthe2b Sep 2018 #2
DU is full of doomsayers MaryMagdaline Sep 2018 #3
IMHO, Manafort's lawyers were leaking that fake info to keep Trump at bay manor321 Sep 2018 #4
That's a good guess. marylandblue Sep 2018 #6
+1 uponit7771 Sep 2018 #21
All the usual places: NYT, WaPo, Politico, CNN, etc. Everyone had the same basic story. nt RockRaven Sep 2018 #5
Mueller plays cards... magicarpet Sep 2018 #7
Manafort's attorneys are thought to have put that out there. Caliman73 Sep 2018 #8
Several so-called expert commentators on cable TV were sure of no cooperation wishstar Sep 2018 #9
Because Mueller's team is 99 and 44/100ths leak-free. NurseJackie Sep 2018 #10
So very true! MaryMagdaline Sep 2018 #16
Trump had nothing to do with it SCantiGOP Sep 2018 #11
Because we're cynics. At least I am. maxsolomon Sep 2018 #12
A bunch of MSM were mindlessly reporting the Trump team spin. n/t pnwmom Sep 2018 #13
it was all over the media....they got it wrong. spanone Sep 2018 #14
My take that was smoke so that Trump thought he was still safe. gibraltar72 Sep 2018 #18
This! rusty fender Sep 2018 #23
Because there is only one real professional in this entire drama... GulfCoast66 Sep 2018 #20
Guilty as charged.. But I don't want to feel hurt when my expectations are dashed. Le Gaucher Sep 2018 #22

The Velveteen Ocelot

(130,538 posts)
1. It was the usual collection of Debbie Downers, naysayers and crepe-hangers
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 05:59 PM
Sep 2018

who apparently didn't understand how good Mueller is at his job. Maybe now they do.

Bradshaw3

(7,964 posts)
15. Exactly 1000 percent
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 06:21 PM
Sep 2018

Our side is actually on a long winning streak between the Mueller probe and election results but some on here can't seem to accept that.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
17. They are warming up to launch the downer posts just before the midterms.
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 06:44 PM
Sep 2018

With them, the glass is ALWAYS half empty, never anything else.

RockRaven

(19,375 posts)
5. All the usual places: NYT, WaPo, Politico, CNN, etc. Everyone had the same basic story. nt
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 06:00 PM
Sep 2018

magicarpet

(18,515 posts)
7. Mueller plays cards...
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 06:03 PM
Sep 2018

.... with his the hand he was dealt very very close to his chest. A wild supposition is the closest one can get to predict how he plays his hand and what power cards he holds.

Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
8. Manafort's attorneys are thought to have put that out there.
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 06:04 PM
Sep 2018

They may have put out that Manafort was going to plea to avoid trial BUT that they were not entertaining a cooperation agreement. Seth Abramson was tweeting about it yesterday.

Some folks on DU were very upset that it was a given that Manafort was going to skate out of the trial and that Mueller was going to give away the farm. Some are still seeming to be upset that any deal was struck even with a cooperation agreement.

wishstar

(5,829 posts)
9. Several so-called expert commentators on cable TV were sure of no cooperation
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 06:05 PM
Sep 2018

and bloggers and twitter pundits who don't know any more than the rest of us, were sure that Manafort would hold out for a pardon but it seems Manafort gave up on expecting anything from Trump who was stringing him along.

SCantiGOP

(14,719 posts)
11. Trump had nothing to do with it
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 06:11 PM
Sep 2018

He was busy weakening the hurricane so it wouldn’t hurt white people in South Carolina.

maxsolomon

(38,729 posts)
12. Because we're cynics. At least I am.
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 06:18 PM
Sep 2018

With good reason to be so - Iran/Contra, Clinton's Impeachment, the Iraq War, Abu Graib, Fitzmas, Merrick Garland, Birth Certificate, etc. ad nauseum, and Justice was rarely delivered to the perpetrators. For instance, Dick Cheney is still alive.

Until yesterday it was still unknown WHY Manafort was risking to trial & prison - and then why he'd change his mind - to take a bullet for Trump? because he was afraid of Novochok?

We're (still) on the precipice of Autocracy, and Trump has plenty of levers left to pull. Caution is warranted.

gibraltar72

(7,629 posts)
18. My take that was smoke so that Trump thought he was still safe.
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 06:57 PM
Sep 2018

As I have said since very early on Mueller leaks but only what he wants Trump to know or think he knows. A few well placed leaks and Manaforts family is safe. Trump doesn't have a chance to pull the trigger on pardon. Actions my friends not words.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
20. Because there is only one real professional in this entire drama...
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 10:19 PM
Sep 2018

And his name is Mueller.

 

Le Gaucher

(1,547 posts)
22. Guilty as charged.. But I don't want to feel hurt when my expectations are dashed.
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 11:20 PM
Sep 2018

I am convinced that Trump will get away with it.. Will be thrilled to be wrong!!

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