Law Prof. Jed Shugarman: A pardon won't save Manafort

[pnwmom]

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1040621720212779009.html

Thread: A Pardon Won't Save Manafort
Manafort is pleading guilty to only 2 charges (conspiracy against U.S. & witness tampering), but the criminal information today lists other crimes.Mueller is preserving state prosecutions.
Last year, I wrote this:

Robert Mueller’s Brilliant Strategy for Outmaneuvering Trump Pardons

Why special counsel Mueller is bringing so few charges against George Papadopoulos and, especially, Paul Manafort.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2017/11/robert_mueller_s_brilliant_strategy_for_outmaneuvering_trump_pardons.html

2/ In August, I explained how the lone juror, by creating a mistrial with an 11-1 vote, actually preserved those deadlocked charges for state prosecution. Manafort still faces charges in CA, IL, VA, NY...

Today, Mueller seems to have done so deliberately.

A Lone Holdout Juror Actually Made It More Likely Manafort Will Go to Jail Even if Trump Pardons Him
Manafort would still face numerous state charges and his federal convictions this week would now be admissible in some of those state trials.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/08/paul-manafort-will-likely-go-to-jail-if-trump-pardons-him-thanks-to-a-lone-holdout-juror.html

3/ WHOA. In the courtroom, prosecutors say it's a *cooperation agreement*.
Andrew Weissman - he chooses his words carefully.
Big. Bigly big.


4/ Manafort is pleading guilty to only 2 charges, and those 2 (conspiracy against U.S., obstruction) can only be brought by feds. But money laundering is in superseding information. Manafort is conceding to the info, but not pleading. States can charge. emptywheel.net/wp-content/upl…

5/ So a guilty plea that acknowledges this criminal information doc in court is usually admissible in state court and thus, slam dunk case on NY state money laundering charges (plus state tax fraud and bank fraud).

SNIP

[triron]

1. Wonder why Dan Goldman doesn;'t talk about any of this (on Rachel)?

[pnwmom]

2. Maybe he hasn't looked into it as thoroughly. Prof Shugarman has been writing

about this for a long time.

He is a full professor at Fordham, with both a law degree and a PhD (in history) from Yale.

https://www.fordham.edu/info/23180/jed_shugerman

[triron]

5. Probably. Incredible credentials.

Rachel needs to get him on! Citizens need to hear from the best authorities.

[pnwmom]

8. I just heard another MSNBC analyst (Josh Gerstein) say that Mueller

has structured the deal so that Manafort could still be exposed to state charges if Trump pardoned him on the Federal -- which is exactly what Shugarman was saying he expected him to do last year.

And he's already acknowledged guilt on everything! And the states could use that against him.

[Blue_true]

3. Of Mueller made such a decision, that says Trump is one of his targets, IMO.

Trump is thus unable to protect himself by pardoning Mueller.

[triron]

6. You mean 'If'?

[Blue_true]

7. Yes. nt

[LiberalFighter]

4. I hope that lone juror finds out he screwed up. LMAO

[northoftheborder]

9. I THINK I heard on Rachel's or Laurence's....

...that part of the deal was that Manafort has to assume guilt for those other charges for which he was not found guilty in his last trial. Perhaps I misheard.

[pnwmom]

10. No, that's what I heard, too. So he pleaded guilty to some charges that could

be prosecuted in state courts if Trump pardoned him on Federal charges.