This white supremacy hand signal is really making the rounds. These cops should be suspended

[Maraya1969]

There is no room for this type of behavior in our police force!

Link to tweet

EDIT: They were suspended

https://articles.al.com/news/index.ssf/2018/07/jasper_officers_suspended_for.amp?__twitter_impression=true

Jasper police officers suspended for 'white power' hand symbol in post-arrest photo


Four officers from the Jasper Police Department have been suspended after making and upside-down "OK" sign with their hands in a post-arrest photo taken by a Jasper Daily Mountain Eagle photographer, city officials told AL.com.

Some people have claimed the gesture is actually a hate symbol that means "white power." The photo in question was posted Thursday in a story about a recent drug arrest in Jasper.

Jasper Mayor David O'Mary told AL.com in an email the officers have been suspended from the narcotics team.

"The Civil Service Board has a say in what happens relative to compensation loss. We feel it is within the powers of the Mayor to impose a five day loss of pay," O'Mary said in an email. "In addition we will require some diversity training."

He said the officers could be suspended for two weeks.

[mwooldri]

1. The way some of them are signing it...

... similar or same as the sign language for 'asshole'.

[Cirque du So-What]

3. Let's employ Occam's Razor, shall we?

What, in your estimation, is the more likely message these overfed fascists conveying: 'White Power' or 'Asshole?'

[FakeNoose]

31. In Germany they use this hand signal to mean "you're an asshole"

... and it's equivalent to somebody giving you the finger in the US. When American GIs served in Germany they had to be taught to not make the "OK" sign for that reason, it means something else to the Germans. But of course, the white supremacists don't give a shit about political correctness anyway.

Just sayin'

[defacto7]

39. or OK... or wank.. or I just picked my nose..

[Cirque du So-What]

43. ...

[defacto7]

52. I didn't mean that as an argument in their favor.

I was just thinking... why do they get away with making a universal and basically harmless hand shape into a hate symbol? It's another annoyance of the rw to occupy and make what's common into a rw tool.

I guess it is what it is now.

[AnotherMother4Peace]

72. & bash didn't mean it as...& miller didn't mean it as...& these police didn't mean it as........

It's a White Power hand signal that they've adopted. It identifies them as white supremacists, and sends a message to the followers of Trump.

[Petrushka]

103. I read that it began as a hoax on 4chan.

"Indeed, the ADL has been steadfast in dispelling the idea that the “okay” gesture is a hate symbol. In fact, the ADL, in its due diligence, was able to track down the start of the rumor that the “okay” hand symbol is a hate gesture: a 4chan hoax meant to trick journalist into believing everything is a hate symbol."

https://www.mrctv.org/blog/nyu-against-fascism-claims-college-republicans-okay-gesture-ok-white-power-sign



I wonder: Does the "okay" hand gesture become a hate symbol because the President uses it? Like this, for instance:












---or is this okay?

[sarah FAILIN]

107. Totally different hand motions

Try making them both. For me, the one Obama did doesn't strain my hand and feels natural since that is the basic at rest state of my fingers. What Trump does is almost painful because I'm straightening my fingers out awkwardly. Totally different.

[Petrushka]

110. Here's a link that might further explain things. I bookmarked it myself for later.

Someone posted it in a reply to one of my other comments on this subject. For what it's worth, however, I'm at a loss when it comes to understanding what all this hateful nonsense is meant to accomplish other than begetting more hate and division. (** sigh **)

https://medium.com/s/story/does-the-ok-sign-actually-signify-white-power-or-what-6cf3309df985



P.S.
The last time I made that okay gesture, it was after I'd tasted something my daughter cooked---letting her know the seasoning was perfect. That okay gesture, to me, is almost the same thing as this one:

[defacto7]

112. Thanks for the info. It makes my point clear.

Trolling the masses by claiming control of any human indicator seems to be the soup du jour these days. Unless the media and people in general ignore these tactics, blinking our eyes will be the next secret message to mean something subversive.

[mwooldri]

84. I know what they are trying to say.

It isn't "asshole". But the people conveying the message are conveying that they are indeed assholes.

[FM123]

2. The thing is, they know that we know, still they continue to do this....

They disgust me!

[bahrbearian]

4. Suspended with Pay ?

[john657]

6. The article says without pay.

"The Civil Service Board has a say in what happens relative to compensation loss. We feel it is within the powers of the Mayor to impose a five day loss of pay," O'Mary said in an email. "In addition we will require some diversity training."

[bahrbearian]

12. Usually they get rewarded.

[john657]

13. So true,

but it looks as though the city govt. is taking this seriously.

And cops wonder why they're not trusted?
All they have to do is look no further than in the mirror.

[raccoon]

45. Good. suspension with pay isn't much of a punishment. nt

[john657]

46. More like a paid vacation. N/T.

[Blue_true]

85. For only one week, they should be fired.

With the meaning of that symbol prominently in the news, they make it. Yet, they would claim that they treat everyone fairly, BULLSHIT!!!!!

[roamer65]

5. Fire them.

Keep the ones that didn’t do it.

[john657]

7. I don't think they can be fired for the first offense,

but they can be suspended without pay for a period of time.
Now, if they do it again, then all bets are off.

[Blue_true]

86. I agree. How can people that did that be trusted to fairly police all populations? nt

[sellitman]

8. They should be all fired

What good will diversity training do for these turds?

Really?

[smirkymonkey]

14. I agree. They aren't going to change the way they think and they are

a danger to society. Fuck them!

[dameatball]

66. Agreed. It has been my experience that most government entities already require some diversity

training, at least in the orientation phase of employment. You can't just hire someone and turn them loose without knowing what the values and policies of the organization are. You can give these guys diversity training every day, but it won't change a thing. They are who they are.

[Blue_true]

88. Agreed. Day one and two usually is tolerance training.

People like them likely sat through it and ridiculed it after. They are who they are.

I just don't get some cops. You have cops that will jump in to save the life of a person, they don't care what the person looks like, all they care about is a person needs help and they are trained to provide it. You have cops that gladly raise money to feed or house hungry or homeless people regardless of what those people look like. There are cops that go out everyday to do their jobs professionally, even when doing it can be challenging. Yet those cops sit mute when the bad or racist cops stain their work and endanger their lives.

[Blue_true]

87. Two or three didn't do it.

Given how closenit such units are, the two or three either felt that giving the signal was outright wrong, or they were clever enough not to do it on camera. Fire the ones that did it and replace them with other cops, monitor the two or three that did not.

[Hekate]

94. Diversity training done well helps change thinking and behavior in several ways...

First and foremost for thugs like these, they will learn the negative consequences of their racist behavior include consequences up to and including loss of employment. They will learn to modify their behavior or they will be gone.

For managers and Commissioners in my county (I was a County Commissioner for years) diversity training has devolved from day-long training sessions into a required annual online training course with Q&A, at the end of which the trainee has to electronically sign the thing and print out a certificate which they must ensure ends up at Human Resources.

That is a document that can be referred to in case of disciplinary action. They know you know the rules. Ignorance is no excuse. And in the case of managers and supervisors, they are responsible for their employees.

All employees, from street sweeper on up, get a copy of a manual outlining rules pertaining to their employment. Don't set the building on fire by carelessness, do your particular job well, don't disgrace your department to the public, don't pat the butts of female employees, don't use racial slurs... And they sign that they have received it and understand it. They get some hands-on training. Ignorance is no excuse.

For those capable of learning and willing to learn, diversity training well done is all to the good. It says something about the corporate culture. It's a tool in changing the corporate culture. It's a tool in creating a workplace that is welcoming to all qualified people and aids in their retention.

Committment is not the same everywhere, needless to say. The nation has been experiencing a slow backlash of white resentment for a couple of decades, and under Trump it is measurably worse. But not everyone has given up, and I applaud the Mayor who decided on swift action against the unacceptable racist behavior of these cops. To ignore it would be to condone it, to condone it would be to ensure its triumph.

[ecstatic]

9. They have guns, and if any of them kills a person of color, all

hell should break loose and the PD / city should be sued into oblivion. I'm so sick of this!

[AnotherMother4Peace]

76. They are a liability & insurance companies should factor this into their rates. nt

[Blue_true]

89. One will likely kill a POC unjustly.

And the good cops will look the other way. It is sad and infuriating at once.

[tazkcmo]

101. "Good" cops

Don't look the other way or remain silent.

[Blue_true]

116. Disagree.

Some do because they are afraid of facing the consequences of taking on the bad ones.

[tazkcmo]

117. I accept your disagreeing. n/t

[mountain grammy]

10. Whatever is up with these jerks, one thing's for sure,

they should NOT be cops.

[elmac]

11. how long has this been a racist hand signal? First the green frog and now this

so they can take any symbol they want and turn it into some fascist, racist symbol, who decides this and why not just start using their hijacked symbols for good, as anti racist.

[Caliman73]

59. That is kind of how symbols work. They mean one thing, then their meaning changes.

Context matters and they change over time with use by different groups. Unfortunately yes, they can be hijacked by any group and used for bad purposes, but they can also be taken back and used for positive purposes like the Pink Triangle which was used by the Nazis to identify gay and lesbian people and is now reclaimed by the LGBT community as a symbol of identity and pride.

https://www.csuchico.edu/~nwylde/250/symbolsnet/

[meadowlander]

92. The KKK have been using hand signals like this since the 1860s.

The three fingers left out mean "KKK".

Since the KKK is a terrorist organisation, nobody using hand signals suggesting they are a member should be allowed to serve in law enforcement.

The problem with trying to "reclaim" the symbol is that nobody will know that's what you're doing. And meanwhile we need to be able to actually tell when someone who is using it has a racist intent.

While groups that have racists or sexist terms applied against them have tried to "reclaim" those terms in order to take the sting out of them, I'm not aware of the same thing happening with terms or symbols used to identify membership in a racist or terrorist organisation.

The swastika is a thousand year old Buddhist symbol but nobody is suggesting flying a Nazi flag outside your house or painting one on your garage in order to "reclaim" the symbol.

[Petrushka]

104. The ADL (Anti-Defmation League) found it began as a hoax on 4chan.

It was supposedly meant to cause journalists to see it as another "hate" symbol---or some such nonsense. Here's a link explaining it all:

https://www.mrctv.org/blog/nyu-against-fascism-claims-college-republicans-okay-gesture-ok-white-power-sign






(Hellsfire! I'm getting way too old for this kind of bullshit. I mean: I don't even know what 4chan is!)

[JonLP24]

106. Richard Spencer Milo and others began flashing it before the 4chan thread

I'm not sure why they are relying on 4chan myself.

Some time around 2015, the OK sign became popular among Trump supporters. Know Your Meme gives a meticulous history, showing its use by figures like Mike Cernovich (a brain-pill salesman who believes Hillary Clinton ran a pedophile ring out of a pizza shop) and Milo Yiannopoulos (who swears he’s not a neo-Nazi but surrounds himself with neo-Nazis). Both of these men famously thrive on publicity and controversy, which explains a lot of what happened next.
The “what happened next” is that people started associating the hand sign with white supremacy, and not unreasonably. As Douglas points out, on election night back in 2016, open white supremacist Richard Spencer tweeted a photo of himself flashing the OK sign in front of a Trump International Hotel with the caption “Tonight’s the night.”

Several months later, an anonymous post appeared on 4chan detailing “OPERATION O-KKK,” the intentional use of the OK sign as an ironic meme designed to “force” leftists to dig themselves deeper into “lunacy,” “until the rest of society ain’t going anywhere near that shit.”
https://medium.com/s/story/does-the-ok-sign-actually-signify-white-power-or-what-6cf3309df985

Anti Racism is a left wing idea these days so not sure why they are obsessed with this if they aren't racist.

[Petrushka]

108. Thank you for the link.

I've bookmarked it to read more closely later. Thus far, most of this shit is wa-a-ay beyond my understanding. I don't even know what 4chan is! Blame it on old age.

All best!

[JonLP24]

109. It started out as a mostly apolitical forum

But recently has been taken over by white supremacists and the alt right especially in the "political incorrect" board. /pol/

[Petrushka]

111. Thank you for the reply. I think I've heard enough to realize how fortunate I am . . .

. . . to not be curious enough to want more information about 4 chan. What you've revealed already is too much for this old biddy to digest. This stuff boggles the mind!

[elmac]

115. thank you. nt

[essme]

15. It is intentional. Just like that horrible woman married to Kavenaugh. BOTH are intentional. nt.

[john657]

16. What the hell are you talking about?

Just like that horrible woman married to Kavenaugh

Kavanaugh's wife was never seen flashing that hand sign.

You probably mean Zina Bash, the one who sat behind Kavanaugh during the hearings.

[AnotherMother4Peace]

26. I think he does mean Zina Bash. She was directly behind Kavanaugh giving the sign, & came back the

next day to keep giving the white power sign. She didn't just flash it, she displayed it for long periods of time. Question: why did Kavanaugh allow this. It was talked about publicly, so there's no way he didn't know about it. This leads me to that he condones it.

[john657]

28. Correct.

Poster should edit his post to reflect that.

[essme]

95. You are correct. Bash. I thought she was married to the possible SC "justice". nt

[7962]

33. Zina Bash is Mexican & Jewish;

The Wash Post has a different view

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2018/09/04/that-was-no-white-power-hand-signal-at-the-kavanaugh-hearing-zina-bashs-husband-says/?utm_term=.507af6b3dbf6

[AnotherMother4Peace]

37. Stephen Miller is a nazi Jew, condemned by his family - go figure. nt

[john657]

41. I'm not saying she did, nor am I saying she didn't,

only she knows for certain.

I'm just correcting the person who said it was Kavanaugh's wife making that gesture.

[AnotherMother4Peace]

53. "only she knows for certain" & she's ready to gaslight (lie) with the best of them.

BTW - everyone should watch that move "Gaslight" with Charles Boyer and Ingrid Bergman, w/Angela Lansbury. - 1944. Great thriller.
Oh, but she wakes up and realizes that there is such evil in the world, she gives it to him.

[john657]

56. Gaslight?

I seem to remember watching it when I was a kid, but I'll check it out.

[AnotherMother4Peace]

63. It's what abusive people do to manipulate through lies & deception.

From Wikipedia "Gaslight is an American 1944 mystery-thriller film, adapted from Patrick Hamilton's 1938 play Gas Light, about a woman whose husband slowly manipulates her into believing that she is going insane. The film was nominated for seven Academy Awards, including Best Picture, Best Actor and Best Screenplay; it also won the Academy Award for Best Actress and Best Production Design."

[essme]

96. I was wrong about Bash being married to the scumbag SC candidate. nt

[Gymbo]

17. Six Narcotics Task Force Members

in a city with 14,000 people? Someone should ask about that as well, I bet the poor people of Jasper, Alabama have a story to tell. Edit to add: there are nine police officers in the newspaper photo.

[yardwork]

19. I'll bet so too.

[greymattermom]

18. So, just curious

What would happen if white NFL players stood and did this during the national anthem? Should they be fired?

[robbob]

25. There is a difference...

Black football players take a knee to protest police violence, killing, and unequal treatment of people of colour. They are looking for equality and justice in hope of creating a more equal America for ALL Americans.

What does the white power sign represent? Pretty much the opposite of all that. If a white football player started flashing that sign it would just be a more subtle equivalent of waving a Nazi flag.

[AnotherMother4Peace]

27. I hope the equivalency folks read & think about your response. nt

[robbob]

32. Equivalency folks make me laugh and scratch my head

Two examples: “Black lives matter? ALL lives matter!” Dude, you just said the same thing! ALL lives DO matter, which is why BLM people are protesting!

Or how about “Why are they tearing down civil war statues and then putting up an exhibit commemorating slavery, with statues of slave in chains, etc.?”

Um...because one is celebrating the history of the enslavement of African people in the USA and the other is condemning it? Kind of obvious?

[John Fante]

75. Conduct unbecoming.

Their contracts would be voided and they would likely be cut.

[Blue_true]

91. Yes, they should be fired and never play again.

It is one thing to take an action that is designed to highlight injustices, it is a totally different matter to give a signal that celebrates injustice and racial violence. So yes, if a White NFL player give that signal, his contract should be voided immediately and the team should immediately release him.

Society won't get better until racism is stomped out.

[tom_kelly]

20. The Chief says "suspended from the narcotics team"

Not from the department. I realize the pay issue is raised but the article is not well written.

[DBoon]

21. This should be treated as a gang sign

Any cop throwing a gang sign should be removed from the force immediately

[Lisa0825]

29. This.

[Grasswire2]

48. excellent point

Let's start raising that on FB. The white power sign is a gang sign.

[yardwork]

77. It is a gang sign.

[Augiedog]

22. And still they wonder why people don't trust them, fucking idiots.

[john657]

23. Same thing I said up thread.

I don't trust cops at all.

[gordianot]

24. Watch Trump's fingers next time he makes a speech.

It is almost constant. As a teacher of the deaf it always looked to me like a manual finger spelled “f”.

[lapucelle]

30. Just to be clear, these aren't NYPD.

The tweet is from Brooklyn, NY, but these cops are from Jasper, Alabama.

No, I am not saying that their action is in any way excusable, and I'm not saying there are no problems with the NYPD, but I don't want to see my city being associated with these particular cretins or their pathetic world view.

[riverbendviewgal]

34. Whew

I thought it was from Jasper, Alberta.

[pangaia]

35. DIVERSITY TRAINING !??? WTF ?.. fire their asses..

[jmbar2]

42. Diversity training won't fix this shit

They need "WTF is Goin on with Wypipo?!" training. Then fire them.

[lillypaddle]

36. I retweeted this to Chuck Grassley, Ryan & McConnell

with the note: "Do you get it YET??"

We need to try to communicate with these assholes whenever possible. Does us no good to just preach to the choir here.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

54. working on it

Did you get a reply to the effect that they are working on converting the 2 who didn't flash the gang sign?

I'm pretty sure McConnell, at least, would want to pin a medal on the gangsters in the photo.

[ProudLib72]

38. So Kaepernick gets shunned because he kneels for justice

While these fuckers get suspended for only two weeks for being blatantly racist.

I fail to see the justice.

[John Fante]

73. Exactly.

These racist assholes will be patrolling the streets of Alabama in a few weeks. That is a disgrace.

[Leghorn21]

40. ...and this happened yesterday:

US Coast Guard on hand gesture seen used by a
support staff member (bottom left) during an interview
on @MSNBC this afternoon:

"The Coast Guard has identified the member and removed
him from the response. His actions do not reflect those of
the United States Coast Guard."

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[maveric]

44. My wife's nephew, just this morning, told us that 4chan invented that sign...

To fool idiots like me to believe that it’s a thing.
He never tells me what his news source is.

[WhiskeyWulf]

47. How's the ADL for a source?

https://www.adl.org/blog/how-the-ok-symbol-became-a-popular-trolling-gesture

[SunSeeker]

50. Problem is, what started out as hoax really was eventually adopted by racists. nt

[WhiskeyWulf]

55. It looks like trolling to me, not actual signalling between racists.

And a lot of people falling for it.

[SunSeeker]

58. What's the difference? It's racists showing their hate either way. nt

[keithbvadu2]

62. If it is being used as a white power signal for trolling, then it is a white power signal.

If it is being used as a white power signal for trolling, then it is a white power signal.

[SunSeeker]

65. Exactly. nt

[yardwork]

78. I don't see the difference.

Anybody who thinks it's funny to "troll the libs" by referencing a white power sign must be sympathetic to white power.

They can get cute and claim that they're "just trolling" but only a racist would think that this is funny.

[JonLP24]

100. They are either doing 2 things

Trying to trick people into thinking they are racist or they really are a racist with plausible deniability attached.. Now who would do such a thing? Probably racists. Cops should not be "trolling" the left.

[Lee-Lee]

60. Not really.

People who actually study the white power movement, like the people at the ADL, have not found any evidence of its being adopted by any white power groups.

It’s literally a long term ongoing joke on the right mocking the left for being gullible.

I get paid to monitor this kind of stuff as part of my job. I’m on every serious intelligence list of people monitoring these groups.

It’s not a white power symbol. It’s an ongoing troll and gag from the right on the left for being gullible enough to believe anything they see repeated online and thinking everything is racist.

And people who make claims it’s been adopted by white supremacists, when there isn’t any evidence it actually has, are literally living up to that stereotype.

[SunSeeker]

64. No, really. "The right" and the white supremacists are the same. One is just more subtle.

The fact that so many right wing racist assholes have flashed this symbol in pictures is evidence enough for me.

The four cops who flashed that upside down ok symbol are not "very fine people." I'm not buying your suggestion that they are not racist, nor that they are just doing this as a harmless "gag."

Maybe the ADL needs to get better monitors.

[flotsam]

82. Ah, the old...

...we was just pretendin' to be klansmen excuse.

[Anon-C]

74. Hi..I have a tremendous amount of respect for the work you do...thank you!

I understand your point. But as said up thread, context is key. Memes are malleable, can convey multiple meanings even to the same audience. Sure, it started in the depths of 4Chan trollery...fine.

But I think it's a disservice for the ADL to make such declaritive statements and bemoan that fact that it's simply a troll to liberals. That's bad enough in and of itself. But that's one layer of meaning that I believe is fit for your consumption. As a black man, I fear for my children at the hands of police officers such as this and other law enforcement agencies, and I know what they mean when they throw this sign.

It's similar to Kate Bouldan claiming that it's uncivil to refer to Stephen Miller, literally a professional bigot and career troll, as a "white nationalist". She, her producers and CNN are dead wrong, Stephen Miller is literally a white nationalist advancing a white ethnostate as a cause in policy and in fact...but that can't be discussed rationally on TV? And this is Zina Bash's colleague!

In high school I had the opportunity to be an extra in the courtroom scene of a made-for-TV biopic on the life of Morris Dees and the founding of the Southern Poverty Law Center. I don't know if you work for or with them, but I believe Dees and the SPLC are real heroes. I was just reading about their monitoring efforts in this case:


https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2018/08/22/suspect-who-fatally-stabbed-black-man-pennsylvania-liked-nearly-50-racist-alt-right

I know my response is all over the place, but there is nothing at all benign in this use of the sign. Nothing.

I won't be gaslit or bullied into accepting otherwise.

[yardwork]

80. You know what police mean when they flash this sign. Exactly.

Their message is crystal clear to me too, and to my wife, who is former law enforcement.

[jcgoldie]

81. Uhmm... if they are making subtle hand signals so people will think they are racists...

...then they are racists!

I mean nobody questions whether people carrying swastikas are really nazis or whether they are just trying to make people think they are nazis... whats the difference???

[meadowlander]

93. If it started in February 2017, then how did the Mississippi Burning script written in 1985,

identify a hooked thumb and index finger with three outstretched fingers (albeit pointing down as the officers in this photo are doing) as a KKK symbol?

4Chan also took credit for making up the pee pee tape rumour and selling it to British Intelligence. That doesn't mean there isn't an actual pee pee tape.

[SunSeeker]

49. These racist fuckwads have ruined the ok symbol for us.

Now what hand signal do I use for ok? Thumbs up? Trump ruined that one already.

[Cha]

98. Same page here, SunSeeker. I thought of

just using this one the other day.. like to see those MFrs try to steal this..

The shaka sign, sometimes known as "hang loose," is a gesture of friendly intent often associated with Hawaii, and surf culture.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaka_sign

[Pepsidog]

51. Outrageous! Fire these assholes

[phleshdef]

57. Looks like the circle game to me.

Isn't the whole "this means white power" thing a 4chan hoax?

[LAS14]

61. What's the circle game? nt

[Kaleva]

67. Circle jerk maybe.

[phleshdef]

68. Google it. Kids been doing it at least since the early 80s.

You make a circle like they are in the picture. It has to be below the waste. You trick someone into looking at it and then you get to punch them in the arm.

[sl8]

71. The Circle Game, courtesy of "Malcolm in the Middle":

[Gothmog]

69. White supremacist in the police department?

Who is surprised about this?

[Eliot Rosewater]

70. Exactly why if rump gets justice and filthy traitors aka deplorables start shooting

it wont be good.

Many police will side with them.

[Hekate]

79. It's a gang sign now, and needs to be treated as such. I hope their local Civil Service Commission..

...treats them harshly.

Sorry, Grandpa, it used to mean A-OK when you were young, but now it's been taken over by a gang of thugs.

[Blue_true]

83. Relative to other alternative work for their skillset, police work pays well locally.

So a few assholes flood into it. They generally DON'T live, shop, send their kids to school in the areas they work, usually the largest city, town or county. They generally loath the people they are supposed to serve. Sensitivity training mean nothing to that type, they should be fired and replaced by cops that recognize that they must fairly police ALL the populations that they serve. At least a couple of them didn't do the racist shit, I don't understand why the good cops tolerate the rest.

[secondwind]

90. Police departments nationwide have more than

their fair share of white supremacists. It’s almost like it is their preferred career.

[Cha]

97. Alabama, of course, they did. SUSPENDED, Excellent NEWS! Maybe they be showing off

what WS Assholes they are next time.

[Separation]

99. Why is this a thing?!

I mean it literally could be a multitude of things. From a normal hand position posed for a picture, the dick game (which was a military favorite) to live long and prosper whoever, whatever, I dont know!

So while people are expending resources, scouring the internet to oust these white power photos. Or looking ridiculous accusing them of it, it was just as ridiculous as trying to defend a false internet meme that the LGBTQ community was wanting to accept pedos into the fold (which was later proven false).

This should be the message to this shit, if there even has to be one. You lay down with racists, dont expect suprised when you get lumped into with them.

If a black man kneeling during the anthem is somehow pissing you off, congratulations. You have something similar with the Klan.


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[vlyons]

102. It is also a Buddhist mudra

The Buddhist hand vitarka mudra symbolizes teaching the Buddhist dharma, teaching the truth of the 4 noble truths. It has been used a lot lot longer by millions and millions of people around the world.

[defacto7]

113. This is the fact. So who gets to use it in America and for what?

The whole thing is a stupid troll.

[SunSeeker]

114. It is a stupid troll by racists to revel in their racism. This is not a harmless trolling.

It is in the same vein as cross burning. It is a signal of malice to people of color. Please do not minimize it by calling it nothing other than a "stupid troll." Everything must be seen in context. These cops were not Buddhists. Please don't try to pretend this was just innocent fun.

[defacto7]

118. Don't put words in my comment that aren't there.

Innocent fun?

I'm sick and tired of rw trolls manipulating the public including the liberals by claiming everything large and small and making us march around to their tune. Every little whim they steal they make us run around like screaming puppets and people are stupid enough to do it. That's the real game. That's what trolls do for a living.

Screw these guys and screw the trolls that empower them. I refuse to redefine whatever they decide they can use to corral us. I know what ugliness they are trying to portray; they have been trolled into thinking that this gesture means something and they'll pay the price. The trolls will just laugh at us all.

[SunSeeker]

119. Objecting to racist displays is not "marching to their tune." nt

[Throck]

105. Looks like a bunch of fat boys playing air soft.