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manor321

(3,344 posts)
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 08:21 PM Sep 2018

New tweets from Avenatti

Michael Avenatti has not always come through with information after suggesting something, but these new tweets are interesting:

All indications are that Dr. Ford is not alone. Buckle up - that includes you Mark Judge. #Basta




And to those that have criticized our media strategy: this will be yet another example of why we used it - because it works!



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New tweets from Avenatti (Original Post) manor321 Sep 2018 OP
Avenatti seems to get a lot of info "over the transom" DeminPennswoods Sep 2018 #1
That's not Avanatti! That's his doppleganger friend who happened to be in the same Twitter account. TheBlackAdder Sep 2018 #50
??? Pachamama Sep 2018 #53
It's a reference to the Dr. Ford case, where Kavs friends were saying it was someone who looks same. TheBlackAdder Sep 2018 #57
No, it is not a reference to the Dr Ford Case. It implies there are other girls who were raped by Nitram Sep 2018 #140
That's not what my post was about. It wasn't about Avanatti's literal post. TheBlackAdder Sep 2018 #145
LOL Rorey Sep 2018 #64
Ha ha! Good one. Pacifist Patriot Sep 2018 #116
I'm starting to think we could do a lot worse than have Mr. Avenatti as our nominee in 2020 Va Lefty Sep 2018 #2
We could also do much, much better. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #6
That might be a good idea or someone with at least a plan Sherman A1 Sep 2018 #8
He has a plan. GemDigger Sep 2018 #78
So does he Sherman A1 Sep 2018 #109
It's been awhile since Andrew Yang's name has come up on DU FM123 Sep 2018 #126
I do as well, I don't know if he will get enough traction to be Sherman A1 Sep 2018 #127
Just a gentle suggestion FM123 Sep 2018 #129
Certainly but it will Sherman A1 Sep 2018 #134
WAY too many deal breakers in that list. Independents win elections. 7962 Sep 2018 #137
We have tried that, didn't work out to well. He has his positions up on twitter. Va Lefty Sep 2018 #9
He's a celebrity lawyer who's never done anything but litigate civil cases The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #13
You may be correct. Just expressing my opinion Va Lefty Sep 2018 #15
He's also a tad shady ismnotwasm Sep 2018 #28
Explain what tad shady means Sucha NastyWoman Sep 2018 #82
Oh just look him up ismnotwasm Sep 2018 #128
If you're going to pretend to be knowledgeable about a subject, at least have SOME.... DonViejo Sep 2018 #117
I knew that. I was talking about his legal career, not stuff he did in school. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #121
Do you think he might be good veep material? eleny Sep 2018 #14
No. We have a lot better people than that who have real experience. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #17
Yeah, I think there ought to be someplace for him eleny Sep 2018 #23
Name them Sucha NastyWoman Sep 2018 #81
Here are some, in alphabetical order because I can't/won't rank otherwise: The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #85
Biden? No way. Not after Anita Hill. And he's just made it worse lately, pnwmom Sep 2018 #107
I was just listing possibilities, not endorsing them. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #122
And I would prefer Avenatti to Biden, but I'm open on the rest. pnwmom Sep 2018 #125
Have to agree justie18 Sep 2018 #139
Not only that, he very recently put out a statement putting all the blame pnwmom Sep 2018 #144
Avenatti isn't qualified. Just another "media personality" chasing after cameras. PSPS Sep 2018 #21
Imo, he has more depth than that eleny Sep 2018 #25
Totally agree. He's got what's needed in his gut. Plus he's Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2018 #80
It takes more than that to be a good president EffieBlack Sep 2018 #93
Yikes is there a way to get an alert when a particular Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2018 #95
Huge difference between the two Sucha NastyWoman Sep 2018 #84
Just another media personality who graduated first in his class in law school pnwmom Sep 2018 #108
Do not get starstruck Lithos Sep 2018 #104
I talked about his evident abilities not any "star" factor eleny Sep 2018 #133
I will be supporting Tom Steyer who has significant experience in waging the battle StevieM Sep 2018 #43
Maybe. On the other hand, I will cheerfully support shanny Sep 2018 #99
Any Democrat is better than any GOPer. That goes without saying. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #100
At least he knows the law. He's an attorney, calimary Sep 2018 #132
significant experience in government GregD Sep 2018 #135
Avenatti sure speaks out more than lots of those with significant experience womanofthehills Sep 2018 #151
I like him too, doing what he's doing. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #152
Oh good grief Roland99 Sep 2018 #11
Actually, we could do no worse. PSPS Sep 2018 #16
We need somebody who can WIN! Va Lefty Sep 2018 #24
It's no good winning if they suck at being president. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #26
I disagree Va Lefty Sep 2018 #29
So an incompetent ninny would be fine as president as long as he's OUR incompetent ninny? The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #30
You said "It's no good winning if they suck at being President" Va Lefty Sep 2018 #34
Do we want to be like them when we have so many good candidates? The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #37
Not my intention to be divisive. Just expressing my opinion. Please enjoy rest of weeekend! Va Lefty Sep 2018 #39
Why are you so threatened by Avenatti? Sucha NastyWoman Sep 2018 #105
Not if you don't get enough Democrats behind your candidate. leftofcool Sep 2018 #115
Whoever can control the media narrative is who wins NewJeffCT Sep 2018 #142
They're going to find out it's no good. n/t Mr.Bill Sep 2018 #40
So how are you so sure he wouldn't make a good president? Kingofalldems Sep 2018 #49
He has never held ANY elected or other position in government. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #55
So how do you feel about the big news in the OP? Kingofalldems Sep 2018 #58
If it's true, great. But the fact that Avenatti tweeted a hint (which he's done before) The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #61
You mean he should do things the traditional way Sucha NastyWoman Sep 2018 #106
He could not be anymore incompetent than Trump. smirkymonkey Sep 2018 #62
I don't think Avenatti is an incompetent ninny but so far he's dead last on my list The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #66
He can't win... Democrats aren't the dumbshits that republicans are. demmiblue Sep 2018 #51
Let's not get crazy. We don't know much about him. bitterross Sep 2018 #47
He has quite a detailed bio at wikipedia. Grasswire2 Sep 2018 #98
I want him as our VP. How about Cory Booker as President. trueblue2007 Sep 2018 #72
Love me some Cory ... dude is sharp as hell and would make an AWESOME candidate ... mr_lebowski Sep 2018 #102
Well we have actual qualified individuals so.... Ninsianna Sep 2018 #86
I'll take half a Sen Harris tazkcmo Sep 2018 #131
No Lefty, Avenatti is not presidential material. He is an excellent defense attorney. Nitram Sep 2018 #141
Here's hoping .... LenaBaby61 Sep 2018 #3
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Iliyah Sep 2018 #4
Because they lie and cheat...it's their MO. BigmanPigman Sep 2018 #33
K&R... spanone Sep 2018 #5
Kavanaugh would be very smart to just accept guilt and step down. IluvPitties Sep 2018 #7
He wants this too badly meadowlark5 Sep 2018 #12
He reminds me of Ted Cruz, but without the smarts. IluvPitties Sep 2018 #67
He can't at this point... colinmom71 Sep 2018 #31
He can't admit guilt... reACTIONary Sep 2018 #74
He needs to resign idcdu Sep 2018 #123
"Our media strategy" ? This attention hound inserts himself into everything. Trust Buster Sep 2018 #10
This "attention hound" is why we got Cohen. shanny Sep 2018 #18
No, Mueller got Cohen on tax evasion. The attention hound had nothing to do with that. Trust Buster Sep 2018 #27
Without the Stormy case, implicating Cohen and Trump, Mueller probably might not have seen it. TheBlackAdder Sep 2018 #38
Oh, I think Mueller is a whole lot smarter and more thorough than that. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #45
Yes. Very early on, no one was paying attention to Cohen, it was just a Russia-limited investigation TheBlackAdder Sep 2018 #54
Do you think Mueller didn't know about him before Avenatti got involved? The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #59
I didn't say that. I said Avanatti got him looking at Cohen and the American public too. TheBlackAdder Sep 2018 #65
Mueller knew about him, but they were losing momemtum. 33taw Sep 2018 #91
In fact, he almost made things worse. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #41
the raid on Cohen's office / home was about the Stormy Daniels case shanny Sep 2018 #97
"Dr. Ford is not alone. Buckle up - that includes you Mark Judge. #Basta" Jarqui Sep 2018 #19
So far, Avenatti's record on calling things in advance are all correct... Pachamama Sep 2018 #60
Sounds like there were more women attacked by these two scumbags...Judge and Kavanaugh. roamer65 Sep 2018 #20
Yes, that's how I read it too: more accusers (NT) HuskyOffset Sep 2018 #120
Looks to me like Avenatti wants a piece of this. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #22
Seems like the GOP was aware of this. Iliyah Sep 2018 #32
This or his $200,000 debt and gambling habits. BigmanPigman Sep 2018 #35
On Reddit I'm hearing this too. OliverQ Sep 2018 #36
He's beginning to sound a lot like Trump, who also demands the women look like models.nt Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #44
That's why they had the letter prepared there is another incident they know of grantcart Sep 2018 #48
Is there any links on the intern looking like models part? Thx in advance uponit7771 Sep 2018 #75
What indications, I wonder? nt Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #42
Republicans hate Avenatti and fear him too. Kingofalldems Sep 2018 #46
Given his record for accuracy, this is going to be interesting. bitterross Sep 2018 #52
Kick this big news. Kingofalldems Sep 2018 #56
Saw Avenatti last night in San Francisco at a Janz fundraiser! Red to Blue/DUMP Nunes! deurbano Sep 2018 #63
Is there still a Stormy Daniels case happening? oberliner Sep 2018 #68
Any comment on the OP? Kingofalldems Sep 2018 #69
Last I read Stormy's case against Izzy Blue Sep 2018 #90
Well, it's not exactly a huge leap to assume that there are other victims. GoCubsGo Sep 2018 #70
A little bit of Avenatti lillypaddle Sep 2018 #71
Good Grief watoos Sep 2018 #73
+1, He's been accurate and effective... don't understand it either. Don't care if he's out front ... uponit7771 Sep 2018 #77
Could Avenatti be referring to Izzy Blue Sep 2018 #76
No. Kingofalldems Sep 2018 #110
Bad news,really bad, this was the other girl Ford said was at the party. Izzy Blue Sep 2018 #79
Unless that girl was also attacked at the same party why should she remember? Nevilledog Sep 2018 #83
Good point Izzy Blue Sep 2018 #88
What I don't understand Izzy Blue Sep 2018 #92
Here's the problem. Nevilledog Sep 2018 #94
There's another thread discussing this. Nevilledog Sep 2018 #96
Thank you, your're so right, all assumptions. Izzy Blue Sep 2018 #101
Not gonna work. Kingofalldems Sep 2018 #111
WTF is twitchy dot com... Looks like its published in St Petersburg??? winstars Sep 2018 #87
LOL! Oh how I wish it were Izzy Blue Sep 2018 #89
Me too. Lots of missing details from St. Pete... winstars Sep 2018 #103
Well, it's easy enough to say you "don't recall" something if you don't want to get involved. Silver Gaia Sep 2018 #112
Get her under oath. OnDoutside Sep 2018 #146
They could subpoena her... *IF* it would be helpful. Silver Gaia Sep 2018 #147
Republicans won't allow that, but if she makes a formal police complaint in Maryland then that ups OnDoutside Sep 2018 #148
I agree, but Silver Gaia Sep 2018 #149
perhaps other women have asked him to rep them? samnsara Sep 2018 #113
Avenatti is the perfect person to do what he does. It's necessary to have some muscle on the left. VOX Sep 2018 #114
THANK YOU +++++ nt bonniebgood Sep 2018 #118
You've summed it up perfectly - Av is a slick and tough hard puncher onetexan Sep 2018 #138
Something else I noticed about Avenatti bashers watoos Sep 2018 #119
Obama had been a state senator and then a U.S. senator before running for president. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #124
K&R Scurrilous Sep 2018 #130
He's been accurate enough to raise my hopes ooky Sep 2018 #136
Given His Media Presence & Reputation, It's Entirely Possible Other Victims Have Contacted Avenatti dlk Sep 2018 #143
Kick ck4829 Sep 2018 #150

Nitram

(23,096 posts)
140. No, it is not a reference to the Dr Ford Case. It implies there are other girls who were raped by
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 02:44 PM
Sep 2018

Kavanaugh and Judge.

TheBlackAdder

(28,293 posts)
145. That's not what my post was about. It wasn't about Avanatti's literal post.
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 04:07 PM
Sep 2018

.

It was twisting the perversion of the Republicans, by claiming that Avanatti did not write it, his doppleganger did.

.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(116,148 posts)
6. We could also do much, much better.
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 08:25 PM
Sep 2018

Like by nominating someone who actually has significant experience in government.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
8. That might be a good idea or someone with at least a plan
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 08:28 PM
Sep 2018

that recognizes the many issues that working people are and will be facing.

I have been looking at Andrew Yang and his platform is very progressive and interesting from what I can see at this point.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
109. So does he
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 05:51 AM
Sep 2018
https://www.yang2020.com/policies/

Andrew's Three Big Policies
Universal Basic Income Universal Basic Income
Medicare for All Medicare for All
Human Capitalism Human Capitalism
On the Issues

Fight for Equal Pay
The Freedom Dividend
Combat Climate Change
Reduce Mass Incarceration
Opioid Crisis
LGBTQ Rights
Gun Control and the Second Amendment
Paid Family Leave
Support for the Arts
Control the Cost of Higher Education
Right to Privacy/Abortion and Contraception
Campaign Finance Reform
Promote Vocational Education
Carbon Fee and Dividend
Increase Teacher Salaries
Early Childhood Education for All
Legalize Marijuana
Make Puerto Rico a State
Value-Added Tax
Hold Pharmaceutical Companies Accountable
Human-Centered Capitalism
Invest in America’s Mental Health
American Journalism Fellows
News and Information Ombudsman
Reduce Harm to Children Caused by Smartphones
Every Cop Gets a Camera
NCAA Should Pay Athletes
Nuclear Launch Decisions
Limit Bureaucracy in the Federal Workforce
Local Journalism Fund
Provide Basic Banking Services through the Post Office
American Exchange Program
Prevent Corruption among Federal Regulators
Closely Monitor Mental Health of White House Staff
Free Marriage Counseling for All
Automatically Sunset Old Laws
Prosperity Grants
Prevent Airlines from Removing Customers
Improve the American Scorecard
Increase Assistance for Single Parents
Fund Medical Technology Innovation
Fund Autism Intervention
Rebuild American Infrastructure
Reduce Student Loan Burden
Medicare for All
Expand Access to Medical Experts
Support the Revival of Earmarks
Make it Easier to Save for Retirement
Free Financial Counseling for All
Make Community College Affordable for All
Life-Skills Education in All High Schools
Modernize Military Spending
Make it Easy for Americans to Move for Work
Implement Mandatory Paid Leave Policy
Ease the Transition to Self-Driving Vehicles
Capital Gain/Carried Interest Tax
File Income Taxes
Financial Transaction Tax
Tort Reform/Reasonableness Dismissals
American Mall Act
Pathway to Citizenship
Entice High-Skill Individuals
Zoning
Algorithmic Trading/Fraud
Nuclear Energy
Modernize Voting
Modern Time Banking (Digital Social Credits)
Economic Crime
Media Fragmentation
Making Taxes Fun
Net Neutrality
Regulate AI and other Emerging Technologies
Robo-Calling Text Line

FM123

(10,054 posts)
126. It's been awhile since Andrew Yang's name has come up on DU
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 11:06 AM
Sep 2018

I don't know if he could win, but I sure like how he thinks....

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
127. I do as well, I don't know if he will get enough traction to be
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 11:09 AM
Sep 2018

of much impact in the campaign but I really like the things I read on his website regarding policies and I enjoyed listening to him on C-Span last weekend.

FM123

(10,054 posts)
129. Just a gentle suggestion
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 11:21 AM
Sep 2018

could you start a new Andrew Yang thread on DU sometime in the near future - I think it would really be worthwhile

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
137. WAY too many deal breakers in that list. Independents win elections.
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 01:55 PM
Sep 2018

And they're not gonna vote for "universal basic income" among other things.

Va Lefty

(6,252 posts)
9. We have tried that, didn't work out to well. He has his positions up on twitter.
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 08:31 PM
Sep 2018

Can't say I disagree with any of them. We need somebody to eviscerate Traitor don on TV. I think he can do that.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(116,148 posts)
13. He's a celebrity lawyer who's never done anything but litigate civil cases
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 08:35 PM
Sep 2018

involving contracts and intellectual property. He's got full of himself because of all the sucking-up from the national media on account of Stormy Daniels, but I see nothing in him that makes me want to vote for him as president. Or city councilman. Even his litigation of the Daniels case has been something of a dog's breakfast procedurally. Call me unimpressed. We have a deep bench of qualified candidates.

ismnotwasm

(42,041 posts)
28. He's also a tad shady
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 08:49 PM
Sep 2018

Once you look into his history. Right now he’s a political gadfly, an progressional agitator, but he’s OUR gadfly and agitator. Let him stir it up, but I don’t want him to run

ismnotwasm

(42,041 posts)
128. Oh just look him up
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 11:16 AM
Sep 2018

I don’t do research for people and I’m not interested in bashing Avenatti. I think a presidential run would prove problematic and no, nothing to do with pornography actors.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
117. If you're going to pretend to be knowledgeable about a subject, at least have SOME....
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 08:07 AM
Sep 2018

Last edited Sun Sep 23, 2018, 08:44 AM - Edit history (1)

knowledge about it

While in college and later in law school, Avenatti worked at The Research Group, a political opposition research and media firm run by Rahm Emanuel (later White House Chief of Staff for President Barack Obama, and Mayor of Chicago).[23][24] Avenatti worked on over 150 Democratic and Republican campaigns in 42 states while studying at George Washington University.[9]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Avenatti

eleny

(46,166 posts)
14. Do you think he might be good veep material?
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 08:39 PM
Sep 2018

He'd be a good watchdog for an administration and groomed for more. It's just that I think we need someone like him in the executive branch somewhere. He's confident, competent, strategic and has come through with whatever he's tackled so far.

I know what you mean about running for president. But he's a talent. He's running Trump in circles and tripping up Trump's team every time. Avenatti has the mental agility that I'd like to see be put to greater things. I'm glad he's on our side of the aisle politically.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(116,148 posts)
17. No. We have a lot better people than that who have real experience.
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 08:41 PM
Sep 2018

He might be a good press secretary or comm director, though; he's good at manipulating the media.

eleny

(46,166 posts)
23. Yeah, I think there ought to be someplace for him
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 08:45 PM
Sep 2018

Communications isn't a plum. It's a lot of headaches but he's good at it. I see him more confrontational than I'd like. Obama had some of the best. They were smooth and likable. I don't know if MA can tame his aggressive style.

I just keep thinking that he's a good fit. It may be in some advisory capacity.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(116,148 posts)
85. Here are some, in alphabetical order because I can't/won't rank otherwise:
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 11:10 PM
Sep 2018

Biden, Booker, Brown, Bullock, Cuomo, Delaney, DiBlasio, Franken, Garcetti, Gillibrand, Harris, Hickenlooper, Holder, Inslee, Klobuchar, McAuliffe, Merkley, Murphy, O'Malley, Schiff, T. Ryan, Warren. All are competent and experienced. I like some more than others. Not all will run. I'm not going to list their resumes here but there's plenty of info about them. More might turn up as well. My point is that we don't have to resort to a flashy media character with no experience in government.

pnwmom

(109,032 posts)
107. Biden? No way. Not after Anita Hill. And he's just made it worse lately,
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 05:08 AM
Sep 2018

by trying to put all the blame on the GOP. He failed in controlling them and he needs to take responsibility for that.

pnwmom

(109,032 posts)
125. And I would prefer Avenatti to Biden, but I'm open on the rest.
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 10:56 AM
Sep 2018

Compared to Biden Avenatti is far more strategic, smarter, and he has a progressive agenda.

And he isn't huggy-kissy with females.

justie18

(169 posts)
139. Have to agree
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 02:30 PM
Sep 2018

People need to contemplate Biden's behavior during the Clarence Thomas hearings, when he was chairman and Democrats controlled the Senate.

According to Anita Hill, he has never apologized to her about his treatment of her.

pnwmom

(109,032 posts)
144. Not only that, he very recently put out a statement putting all the blame
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 03:42 PM
Sep 2018

on the other side, even though he was the Chair of the Committee -- and he was the one who made the decision not to call Anita's two corroborating witnesses to testify.

PSPS

(13,662 posts)
21. Avenatti isn't qualified. Just another "media personality" chasing after cameras.
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 08:42 PM
Sep 2018

We all should know now how well that works out.

eleny

(46,166 posts)
25. Imo, he has more depth than that
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 08:47 PM
Sep 2018

He's certainly good at running Trump in circles. Trump even keeps his muoth and tweets in check regarding MA. Not many can do that so I think Avennati knows how to circle his prey.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
80. Totally agree. He's got what's needed in his gut. Plus he's
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 10:55 PM
Sep 2018

Amazingly bright and quick savvy and unapologetic.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
93. It takes more than that to be a good president
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 12:01 AM
Sep 2018

I like Avenatti, but he's nowhere near qualified to be president of the United States.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
95. Yikes is there a way to get an alert when a particular
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 12:15 AM
Sep 2018

person posts here? So a person can get their contrary opinion out there quickly. LOL

pnwmom

(109,032 posts)
108. Just another media personality who graduated first in his class in law school
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 05:10 AM
Sep 2018

and whose first job involved working with dozens of political campaigns, and who in 2010 set up a scholarship for part-time, night school students at his law school.

Lithos

(26,405 posts)
104. Do not get starstruck
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 01:40 AM
Sep 2018

He is awesome at shaping a message, particularly when it is about someone else, but he has zero experience being the one making the hard choices and working the guts of government.



eleny

(46,166 posts)
133. I talked about his evident abilities not any "star" factor
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 12:50 PM
Sep 2018

Maybe you meant to respond to someone else's post.

StevieM

(10,501 posts)
43. I will be supporting Tom Steyer who has significant experience in waging the battle
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 09:05 PM
Sep 2018

to end climate change.

That is the most important issue IMO and he is the person I trust to lead it, regardless of whether or not he has held elective office before.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
99. Maybe. On the other hand, I will cheerfully support
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 12:36 AM
Sep 2018

Avenatti in the unlikely event he becomes our nominee.

calimary

(81,693 posts)
132. At least he knows the law. He's an attorney,
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 11:31 AM
Sep 2018

As are many in the House and Senate.

I like him. I like his strategic thinking and his ability to message shrewdly and effectively. Our side isn’t used to playing that way. THAT has to change, and FAST!

GregD

(2,263 posts)
135. significant experience in government
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 01:44 PM
Sep 2018

Exactly. I'm glad Avenatti is doing what he is, but that does not qualify him for president.

PSPS

(13,662 posts)
16. Actually, we could do no worse.
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 08:40 PM
Sep 2018

We don't need another "media personality" devoid of any governing experience to be president again. Let Avenatti do his tiresome shtick on twitter and various blathering head shows. Maybe he'll get the biggest prize of all -- his own talk show or "reality" show!!11!

Va Lefty

(6,252 posts)
24. We need somebody who can WIN!
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 08:45 PM
Sep 2018

I don't care if it's The Rock, Oprah or Whoever. The rules have changed. If we play be the old rules we will lose again. That is unacceptable!

The Velveteen Ocelot

(116,148 posts)
30. So an incompetent ninny would be fine as president as long as he's OUR incompetent ninny?
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 08:52 PM
Sep 2018

I don't think so.

Va Lefty

(6,252 posts)
34. You said "It's no good winning if they suck at being President"
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 08:55 PM
Sep 2018

Traitor don sucks at being President. You think republicans think it's no good?

The Velveteen Ocelot

(116,148 posts)
37. Do we want to be like them when we have so many good candidates?
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 08:56 PM
Sep 2018

We can win without some media whore trial lawyer.

Sucha NastyWoman

(2,761 posts)
105. Why are you so threatened by Avenatti?
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 03:28 AM
Sep 2018

You have used a whole host of loaded words to describe him.. He appeals to me because he’s putting up the best fight that I see. At worst he might teach some of our more traditional candidates to fight back.

NewJeffCT

(56,830 posts)
142. Whoever can control the media narrative is who wins
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 02:55 PM
Sep 2018

Ronald Reagaon in 1980 and 84
In 1988, Bush Sr sucked less at it than Dukakis
Bill Clinton in 1992 and 1996
Bush in 2000 and 2004
Obama in 2008 and 2012
Trump in 2016

Trump is unique in that he has the ability to suck all the media attention out of the room. Avenatti is the only person left of center that seems to get a significant amount of air time - the media seems to love playing Pro Trump vs Anti Trump Republicans, while Democratic representatives are often too passive or not even given air time.

Kingofalldems

(38,546 posts)
49. So how are you so sure he wouldn't make a good president?
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 09:08 PM
Sep 2018

He's done great things for our side, don't understand the hatred.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(116,148 posts)
55. He has never held ANY elected or other position in government.
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 09:13 PM
Sep 2018

His entire career has involved litigating civil cases relating to contracts and intellectual property for Hollywood celebrities. He has a brash personality and a lot of talent for attracting media attention, but beyond that I don't really see anything special about him that would make me think he'd be a good president. I don't hate him but we have many, many better possible candidates who really do know how government works. If he really wants to go into politics maybe he should start out like most other people, by running for a city or state office.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(116,148 posts)
61. If it's true, great. But the fact that Avenatti tweeted a hint (which he's done before)
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 09:17 PM
Sep 2018

doesn't mean it's real; or if it is, that Avenatti discovered it himself.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
62. He could not be anymore incompetent than Trump.
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 09:17 PM
Sep 2018

He's not a stupid man. Quite the contrary. I don't really want to see him run for president, but if we can't come up with a winning candidate by 2020, I would consider him. Being competent is not going to get people out of their chairs to vote.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(116,148 posts)
66. I don't think Avenatti is an incompetent ninny but so far he's dead last on my list
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 09:21 PM
Sep 2018

because we have so many more people who are competent, experienced and can win.

demmiblue

(36,967 posts)
51. He can't win... Democrats aren't the dumbshits that republicans are.
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 09:10 PM
Sep 2018

He would never make it past the primary.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
47. Let's not get crazy. We don't know much about him.
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 09:07 PM
Sep 2018

Don't get too starstruck. I like him and what he's doing but I'm not ready to canonize him.

Grasswire2

(13,580 posts)
98. He has quite a detailed bio at wikipedia.
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 12:30 AM
Sep 2018

Example:

"While in college and later in law school, Avenatti worked at The Research Group, a political opposition research and media firm run by Rahm Emanuel (later White House Chief of Staff for President Barack Obama, and Mayor of Chicago).[23][24] Avenatti worked on over 150 Democratic and Republican campaigns in 42 states while studying at George Washington University.[

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
102. Love me some Cory ... dude is sharp as hell and would make an AWESOME candidate ...
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 01:05 AM
Sep 2018

Based on what I've seen so far, I'd be ecstatic if he were either our POTUS or VPOTUS candidate in 2020 ...

tazkcmo

(7,313 posts)
131. I'll take half a Sen Harris
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 11:23 AM
Sep 2018

Over 2 Avenatti's any day. If I need a good lawyer that does good TV, I'll call him but for a President I want someone with a proven track record of leadership, good governance and a firm grasp of foreign affairs. Sen Harris has been in leadership positions, is a progressive with real life experience within the Federal government and has a thorough understanding of global relations, hot spots and conflicts past and present.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion and can vote however you choose but while he is a talented litigator, Mr. Avenatti's resume is seriously deficient in many areas especially when compared to several of our current Democratic Senators, Representatives and Govenors.

In short, being a natural born citizen , over the age of 35 and beng a "fighter" are his very short list of qualifcations. We can and will do better.

Nitram

(23,096 posts)
141. No Lefty, Avenatti is not presidential material. He is an excellent defense attorney.
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 02:46 PM
Sep 2018

He'd probably also be good at intelligence. Different skills, different abilities.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
4. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 08:24 PM
Sep 2018

Those that have been following, why the hell have they (GOP) been not producing documents?

IluvPitties

(3,181 posts)
7. Kavanaugh would be very smart to just accept guilt and step down.
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 08:27 PM
Sep 2018

Offer a public apology and move on... this will not end well for him!

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
12. He wants this too badly
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 08:33 PM
Sep 2018

I wonder if he was kind of a joke at Georgetown Prep. He might have been in the midst of the party and thought he was cool, but you know there is always that guy. Thinks he's something but everyone thinks he's a douche but tolerates him because he's part of the crowd.

Listening to him speak, he sounds a little dumb. I wonder how he got as far as he did. Sucking up, lying, owing favors for promotions. So it would be really an achievement for him to be on the SCOTUS. I mean, look at Trump. A dumb, lying hunk of shit sits in the White House. Sometimes it's who you know, not what you know.

colinmom71

(653 posts)
31. He can't at this point...
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 08:52 PM
Sep 2018

That little matter of debts being mysteriously and suddenly paid off means that he's owned and will not be able to step down until he's "allowed".

reACTIONary

(5,801 posts)
74. He can't admit guilt...
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 10:30 PM
Sep 2018

... because he would lose his day job. But he coukd step down with no admission. Course he could still lose his day job.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
18. This "attention hound" is why we got Cohen.
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 08:41 PM
Sep 2018

Who is the golden goose, the gift who keeps on giving.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(116,148 posts)
45. Oh, I think Mueller is a whole lot smarter and more thorough than that.
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 09:06 PM
Sep 2018

Do you really think Cohen wasn't already in his crosshairs?

TheBlackAdder

(28,293 posts)
54. Yes. Very early on, no one was paying attention to Cohen, it was just a Russia-limited investigation
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 09:12 PM
Sep 2018

.

The scope of inquiry, as assigned to Mueller was to investigate the Russia matter and anything that would turn up as a result of it. Cohen wasn't even on the radar, until Avanatti pushed the issue. So many here were telling him to go away, but were surprised when the payoffs were announced, then Mueller had to handle it.

.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(116,148 posts)
59. Do you think Mueller didn't know about him before Avenatti got involved?
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 09:14 PM
Sep 2018

I don't. Cohen has been Trump's fixer for 10 years and I suspect he was always being looked at.

TheBlackAdder

(28,293 posts)
65. I didn't say that. I said Avanatti got him looking at Cohen and the American public too.
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 09:20 PM
Sep 2018

.

Fixer or not, if it did not relate to the Russia investigation, he might not have known what and where to look. Sure, Mueller might have gotten some off-shore banking records that pointed back to the Russian oligarch, but that was facilitated by Ananatti outting Cohen.

The public wasn't getting any feedback on the investigation. It was all Trump's spin factory. With no input against Trump, the public perception was waning... Avanatti and Daniels energized Democrats that there was hope of a Trump takedown.

Avanatti brought to the public eye the corruption with Trump, something that Mueller could not do.

.

33taw

(2,454 posts)
91. Mueller knew about him, but they were losing momemtum.
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 11:39 PM
Sep 2018

Avenatti brought up the payment of $130,000 and brought attention to Cohen and Trump and the payoffs.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(116,148 posts)
41. In fact, he almost made things worse.
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 09:04 PM
Sep 2018

He wanted to intervene in Cohen's case in SDNY because he claimed some of Cohen's documents shouldn't be released if they related to Daniels. The judge told him that the lawyers' rules of professional conduct for New York provide that if a lawyer is actually representing someone in a case they can't comment about the case in the media and that if he wanted to intervene he couldn't go on TV any more. So he decided not to intervene - he chose TV over Daniels' (claimed) interests in some documents.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
97. the raid on Cohen's office / home was about the Stormy Daniels case
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 12:22 AM
Sep 2018

so, yeah, it did have something to do with the "attention hound." Personally, I couldn't care less if he is an attention hound--I'll make that stronger: I'm glad he's an attention hound (your characterization) or media savvy (mine). If it puts lil' donnie back on his heels, I'm all for it.

Jarqui

(10,131 posts)
19. "Dr. Ford is not alone. Buckle up - that includes you Mark Judge. #Basta"
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 08:41 PM
Sep 2018

You wanna know how that hit me?

"comrade Kavanaugh,Senator Grassley, Mitch McConnell and Mark Judge? Welcome to another Avenatti sponsored nightmare. As you toss and turn while trying to sleep, ask yourselves: 'has this guy ever been wrong?' Sweat dreams ...."

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
36. On Reddit I'm hearing this too.
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 08:56 PM
Sep 2018

The reason Michael Bromwich got on board is because there are more women who are going to be coming out soon. Based on Kavanaugh demanding his interns and staff look like models, there is no question this is a pattern with him. I expect more women to come forward this week.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
52. Given his record for accuracy, this is going to be interesting.
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 09:10 PM
Sep 2018

Next week is going to be interesting. Sounds like there are more women out there than just Blasey. Not surprised about that at all.

 

Izzy Blue

(282 posts)
90. Last I read Stormy's case against
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 11:38 PM
Sep 2018

Trump and Cohen is ongoing.
and

wiki

September 2018

September 7, 2018: Cohen offers to rescind and invalidate the non-disclosure agreement with Daniels, in return for Daniels refunding the $130,000 Cohen had paid to her.[95][96]

September 8, 2018: Lawyers for Trump have declared that Trump will neither enforce the non-disclosure agreement nor contest Daniels' claim that it is invalid.[97]

GoCubsGo

(32,120 posts)
70. Well, it's not exactly a huge leap to assume that there are other victims.
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 10:01 PM
Sep 2018

Guys like Kavanaugh and Judge don't usually limit themselves to one of them.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
73. Good Grief
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 10:27 PM
Sep 2018

who turned this into an Avanatti bashing thread? Shame on you.

If he is the Democratic nominee I'm on board with him.

uponit7771

(90,380 posts)
77. +1, He's been accurate and effective... don't understand it either. Don't care if he's out front ...
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 10:34 PM
Sep 2018

... just as long as he's progressing getting Red Don out of office

 

Izzy Blue

(282 posts)
76. Could Avenatti be referring to
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 10:34 PM
Sep 2018

The other girl that was at the party or Dr.Ford's new attorney Michael Bromwich?

 

Izzy Blue

(282 posts)
79. Bad news,really bad, this was the other girl Ford said was at the party.
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 10:54 PM
Sep 2018



Report: Lawyer says Christine Blasey Ford’s classmate has no recollection of ever being at a party with Kavanaugh or Ford

Posted at 9:46 pm on September 22, 2018 by Brett T.

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2018/09/22/report-lawyer-says-christine-blasey-fords-classmate-has-no-recollection-of-ever-being
 

Izzy Blue

(282 posts)
88. Good point
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 11:27 PM
Sep 2018

Yet I was thinking if she was there Christine would have told her what had happened to her.

Did she not tell any of her girlfriends?

I'm just going on my teen years when a group of us close g'friends would tell each other the good, bad and ugly about guys.

 

Izzy Blue

(282 posts)
92. What I don't understand
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 11:42 PM
Sep 2018

Is if this is true and Leland was the witness Ford was relying on why didn't she get in touch with her before she went public?

Nevilledog

(51,455 posts)
94. Here's the problem.
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 12:10 AM
Sep 2018

We are making too many assumptions about this info:

1. What is the basis for supposing that Leland was with Ford the night of the attack? Could be that Ford may have said Leland was my best friend at the time, so she might have been with me. Who says they were best friends at the time, were they part of a group of besties?

2. As Ford has not specifically pinpointed the date or location of the party how would Leland know? Did Leland know who the boys were?. Had she seen them together at any party?

3. My understanding is that Ford did not tell anyone what happened at the time..... Why not ask Leland if she remembers Ford being upset at a party, or perhaps asking to leave earlier than planned.

There are so many bits and pieces that need to be explored here.

Nevilledog

(51,455 posts)
96. There's another thread discussing this.
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 12:16 AM
Sep 2018

Looks like there is a WaPo article that answers these questions. As I guessed there was more info than just that she was denying anything.

 

Izzy Blue

(282 posts)
101. Thank you, your're so right, all assumptions.
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 12:53 AM
Sep 2018

Leland did say that she didn't know Kavanaugh.

??

Hopefully Michael Bromwich joining her team is a good sign.

Silver Gaia

(4,554 posts)
112. Well, it's easy enough to say you "don't recall" something if you don't want to get involved.
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 06:58 AM
Sep 2018

It doesn't prove nothing happened. At least she's not saying she remembers being there and that her friend was never out of her sight all evening. If she wanted to hurt the case, that would be how to do it. I think she is just saying she doesn't want to be involved.

Silver Gaia

(4,554 posts)
147. They could subpoena her... *IF* it would be helpful.
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 05:55 PM
Sep 2018

But why bother unless it's absolutely necessary? Her testimony in Congressional hearings and/or court may be superfluous, especially if she has to be coerced. I just think she's not that big of a deal because her statement is nothing concrete.

OnDoutside

(19,993 posts)
148. Republicans won't allow that, but if she makes a formal police complaint in Maryland then that ups
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 06:41 PM
Sep 2018

the stakes hugely. At that point, it will get serious for those "partygoers",

Silver Gaia

(4,554 posts)
149. I agree, but
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 07:31 PM
Sep 2018

there's still no reason to subpoena her, whether in Congress or in court, unless she changes her tune. She can still say she doesn't remember while under oath, and that does more harm than good for Dr. Ford. I could see the defense maybe using her in court, although her statement is still inconclusive, so it doesn't prove anything.

I think her statement was likely just her way of saying "leave me out of this."

VOX

(22,976 posts)
114. Avenatti is the perfect person to do what he does. It's necessary to have some muscle on the left.
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 07:16 AM
Sep 2018

FINALLY! So damned tired of the right-wing stealing elections; stealing our own democracy and putting it in suspension; stealing the best interests for peace and safety of this country (and of the world); making off with the profits/revenues generated by juicing the economy, and sending most “rights and privileges thereto” upstream to the 1%; for stealing the peace of mind (and personal savings) that a functioning healthcare system would bring; for stealing even more from POC, by using them for rally-props while your heart is incapable of feeling anything about anyone who truly works hard (2-3 jobs per day, in many cases).

Avenatti is the hard-puncher that was called for and overdue. He’s a little slick, but, slick and tough and outspoken is needed. He’s the antidote for politeness in the face of rampant, criminal insanity.

onetexan

(13,096 posts)
138. You've summed it up perfectly - Av is a slick and tough hard puncher
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 02:13 PM
Sep 2018

but a DAMN GOOD ONE at what he does because he's smart, not like the DOTUS and his second rate enablers. It's about time we have someone like him on our side.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
119. Something else I noticed about Avenatti bashers
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 09:25 AM
Sep 2018

they sound just like Republicans.

Remember what they said about Obama? He is not experienced, we need someone with government seniority.

Remember what they said? The only thing that Obama did was be a "community organizer," something similar to what Avenatti did, ehh?

I'm not saying that Michael Avenatti is a Barack Obama, but I am saying that the criticisms against Avenatti are similar to those against Obama.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(116,148 posts)
124. Obama had been a state senator and then a U.S. senator before running for president.
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 10:35 AM
Sep 2018

In other words, he had significant experience in government.

dlk

(11,651 posts)
143. Given His Media Presence & Reputation, It's Entirely Possible Other Victims Have Contacted Avenatti
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 02:58 PM
Sep 2018

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