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Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
2. Too many.
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 12:05 AM
Sep 2018

Years ago, Oprah had a show dedicated to men who had been abused and then silenced by the Catholic Church. There were 250 of them that day. Some had their wives or partners with them. Each had a picture of them as alter boys (when the abuse occurred). It was heart-breaking. All of these sweet, smiling boys, at the tender age of innocence, stripped from them by bastard pedophile priests. Many of them spoke. Some just couldn't. I sat there in tears the whole show. Their stories were ones of youth stolen, lives lost (drug abuse, alcohol abuse, self-destructive behaviors - everything from promiscuity to cutting to numerous attempts at suicide, it was horrifying) and souls shattered for all time. It was so painful, yet no one questioned WHY they waited to speak out. It was just understood why.

We re-traumatize victims when we fail to believe them.

But I believe that we are about to finally have that national dialogue so long overdue. Soon.

RockRaven

(14,966 posts)
4. Without putting a specific number on it, clearly we can say "Most of them" which ought
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 12:28 AM
Sep 2018

to be all we need to know to decide how to act towards this vile, fleecing-the-poor, abusing-the-vulnerable, shielding-the-guilty, enabling-the-powerful organization.

And I say this as someone who spent the majority (~3/4) of my educational years in Catholic schools/universities, received an absolutely top-shelf education from them which I appreciate greatly, and was NEVER mistreated by any priest/nun/teacher/administrator.

Whatever the Catholic Church once was in terms of cultural patrimony, whatever it once did in terms of charitable or diplomatic beneficence, whatever gravitas-based legitimacy it might have compared to the hucksterism of independent or fluidly-affiliated preachers/churches... none of those considerations obviates the fact that the current Catholic Church, embodied by those now living and their personal memories, chooses to protect child rapists and abusers over embracing justice and with that justice the risk of litigation-based financial obliteration.

As for the figure of "hundreds, *maybe* thousands" I think that could be the correct figure for a very small geographic area, such as a diocese. For the US, or the world, you would need to be considering "hundreds *OF* thousands" if not certainly millions. This is the scale of the depredations people ought to be grappling with.

JoeOtterbein

(7,700 posts)
5. I saw with it my own eyes. When I was 12. I heard about it from many others for the past 50 years
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 12:40 AM
Sep 2018

(yes, I'm 62!) I have been looking for the victim of the sex assault, or others who know of any such assaults, at the Sparts, MD CYO Boy's Camp in 1968 or any other year.

Thanks for shining the light Yavin4!

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