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Tue Sep 25, 2018, 02:32 PM

Marcy Wheeler analyzes the language Kavanaugh used in Fox interview

and notes how he reframed the charge from sexual assault to sexual intercourse.
Itís a very interesting catch by her. All that blather from him about being a virgin and not having intercourse was part of his attempt to reframe the accusation and couch his denial in terms that were different from the accusations.

https://www.emptywheel.net/2018/09/25/brett-kavanaugh-it-depends-on-what-the-meaning-of-the-phrase-sexual-assault-is/

KAVANAUGH: Weíre talking about an allegation of sexual assault. Iíve never sexually assaulted anyone. I did not have sexual intercourse or anything close to sexual intercourse in high school or for many years there after. And the girls from the schools I went to and I were friends ó
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That is, the man who helped impeach Bill Clinton for a blowjob says he couldnít have sexually assaulted any of the now-four women who allege he did because he remained a virgin through that entire period.

And having defined vaginal intercourse to be necessary in any sexual assault, Kavanaugh kept repeating the term, sexual assault sexual assault sexual assault sexual assault sexual assault sexual assault sexual assault sexual assault, eight times in the interview.

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Reply Marcy Wheeler analyzes the language Kavanaugh used in Fox interview (Original post)
suffragette Sep 2018 OP
madaboutharry Sep 2018 #1
suffragette Sep 2018 #4
eleny Sep 2018 #2
suffragette Sep 2018 #7
eleny Sep 2018 #9
suffragette Sep 2018 #10
eleny Sep 2018 #11
suffragette Sep 2018 #16
eleny Sep 2018 #17
suffragette Sep 2018 #18
Nevilledog Sep 2018 #3
librechik Sep 2018 #5
suffragette Sep 2018 #8
Doodley Sep 2018 #6
malaise Sep 2018 #12
suffragette Sep 2018 #13
malaise Sep 2018 #14
suffragette Sep 2018 #15

Response to suffragette (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2018, 02:39 PM

1. He sounded like a guilty man overly coached by his lawyer.

This is a disgrace and everyone knows it.

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #1)

Tue Sep 25, 2018, 02:45 PM

4. Agree.

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Response to suffragette (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2018, 02:40 PM

2. Sounds like he doesn't know the difference

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Response to eleny (Reply #2)

Tue Sep 25, 2018, 02:53 PM

7. He's working at creating a difference so he can deny an accusation that wasn't made.

Dr. Ford accused him of attempted rape.

Heís trying to frame it as he didnít have intercourse as if that is the core of the accusation when it is not.

Itís quite similar to some of the defenses Republicans have been floating for him. I doubt thatís coincidental, just like their earlier attempt to blame it on mistaken identity. Looks like this is their new tactic.

Senators Harris and Hirono will no doubt shred right through this.

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Response to suffragette (Reply #7)

Tue Sep 25, 2018, 04:36 PM

9. I understand that

But I don't believe that he views women and sexuality with maturity. That's why he expects his audience to accept his conflation. He expects the sheep to view his "slight of word" because he believes the way he framed it and that they do, too.

You and I weren't his audience last night on Fox. He's trying to keep Trump's base in his corner because even some of them must be slipping away right now. That's why he kept repeating his talking points. It was almost like repeating a times table with elementary school kids until they memorized it.

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Response to eleny (Reply #9)

Tue Sep 25, 2018, 07:50 PM

10. You raise great points. Absolutely agree about his views of women and sexuality and that he's

trying to convince his audience.

Add a huge dollop of hubris. Heís used to getting his way and convincing people heís right and likely thinks heís much cleverer than he actually is.

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Response to suffragette (Reply #10)

Tue Sep 25, 2018, 07:52 PM

11. Wait till he gets on the court

Then he can really push his hubris around. We're going to have to work very hard to protect women from the loss of 20th century rights.

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Response to eleny (Reply #11)

Tue Sep 25, 2018, 08:45 PM

16. Completely agree, eleny. We're going to have to work hard and keep pushing back.

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Response to suffragette (Reply #16)

Tue Sep 25, 2018, 09:03 PM

17. Pushing for states rights and all that this means

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Response to eleny (Reply #17)

Tue Sep 25, 2018, 10:02 PM

18. Exactly so. When Net Neutrality was undone federally, my state already had created a law that

would take effect the minute the change was done. So, there was not a minute we werenít covered by Net Neutrality. Will have to advocate that the same be done for any and all civil rights and labor laws that are threatened.

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Response to suffragette (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2018, 02:44 PM

3. Let's see.... What was the chant?. No means yes, yes means anal.

Guess that wouldn't meet his definition of sexual assault.

Although, if his friends also adopted the vaginal requirement it would have made the notion of a Devil's Triangle quite painful.


Why has no one brought up the fact these boys were not just bragging about their sexual exploits but they were bragging about MMF threesomes?????

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Response to suffragette (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2018, 02:45 PM

5. Hallie caught Raj pulling this trick this morning on her MSNBC show

A brawl erupted as Raj refused to let her speak and charged ahead with the talking points. She finally got him quiet enough to point out his slurring of assault and intercourse, but he still wouldn't answer . She finally had to give up and go on.

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Response to librechik (Reply #5)

Tue Sep 25, 2018, 02:55 PM

8. It's starting to look like this is the tactic he and Republicans have settled on after the

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mistaken identity gambit failed so spectacularly.

Edit - Corrected an auto-correct error.

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Response to suffragette (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2018, 02:48 PM

6. A man who smiles as he denies allegations can't be trusted.

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Response to suffragette (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2018, 07:57 PM

12. How many times did he say 'fair process'

When we know that this entire plan for Thursday in unprecedented is terms of violations of process

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Response to malaise (Reply #12)

Tue Sep 25, 2018, 08:16 PM

13. Nailed it, sis. He seem's to be using a Fox News definition of "fair." I shudder to think how he

applies what he calls fairness in court.

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Response to suffragette (Reply #13)

Tue Sep 25, 2018, 08:19 PM

14. Precisely

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Response to malaise (Reply #14)

Tue Sep 25, 2018, 08:37 PM

15. Back atcha!

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