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BREAKING: Grassley announces Vote Friday 9:30AM.... (Original Post) jodymarie aimee Sep 2018 OP
We are at war, I hope people understand that. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2018 #1
We truly are! democratisphere Sep 2018 #8
Most of us didnt see it coming that the GOP would actually join with the KGB Eliot Rosewater Sep 2018 #10
Noel Francisco will need to recuse himself because of his ties to CONald democratisphere Sep 2018 #12
and an hour later with a signature from rump will reverse that per the experts I have heard Eliot Rosewater Sep 2018 #13
At a minimum, we are truly at a crossroads between democracy democratisphere Sep 2018 #15
Sadly the enemies are EVERYWHERE too, and by that I mean EVERYWHERE Eliot Rosewater Sep 2018 #19
Agreed. democratisphere Sep 2018 #20
Yes we are at war, bdamomma Sep 2018 #33
Sounds like he must be confident of Collins's vote eleny Sep 2018 #2
mcconnell said vote whether committee is pro or con. elleng Sep 2018 #3
I'm sure you're right about that! eleny Sep 2018 #6
Collins isn't relevant to this vote. euphorb Sep 2018 #7
It will pass the committee eleny Sep 2018 #9
Murkowsli's facing a boatload of pressure from her NA constituents. Can't afford to count her out. bettyellen Sep 2018 #11
I so hope you're right eleny Sep 2018 #17
I don't think it would feel safe for Collins or Murkowski to speak out early- they're getting a ton bettyellen Sep 2018 #25
This isn't a senate vote - just a committee vote. Drunken Irishman Sep 2018 #14
yes, i'm aware. i wasn't clear about meaning the full senate vote eleny Sep 2018 #22
and if they don't have the numbers I suspect they will postpone the vote still_one Sep 2018 #4
Dicky Mitchy said vote up or down. nt FromTheAshes Sep 2018 #5
That will be intereesting if he doesn't have the votes and allows the vote to proceed still_one Sep 2018 #18
Who on the committee wouldn't vote up on this? Drunken Irishman Sep 2018 #16
Flake still_one Sep 2018 #21
He's a flake on all the major votes. Drunken Irishman Sep 2018 #24
I didn't say he would or wouldn't, however, out of all the republilcans on that committee, if anyone still_one Sep 2018 #26
He's full of shit as usual Thrill Sep 2018 #28
He may be full of it, but if Grassly is now saying they may not have the vote on Friday after all still_one Sep 2018 #32
Felt a chill run thru my body reading this headline Bfd Sep 2018 #23
:) I'm taking comfort in chaos theory and all the butterflies Hortensis Sep 2018 #35
Avenatti's threat may have sped up the vote. Kablooie Sep 2018 #27
Release it now. Why is he waiting? Thrill Sep 2018 #29
He may not really have what he promised. Kablooie Sep 2018 #31
Well tomorrow is Wednesday bdamomma Sep 2018 #34
I'm thinking... Mike Nelson Sep 2018 #30

Eliot Rosewater

(31,180 posts)
10. Most of us didnt see it coming that the GOP would actually join with the KGB
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 06:40 PM
Sep 2018

to destroy America.

But they are and if Rosenstein goes, Noel Francisco will take over, end the investigation. I expect that to all happen by this time next week actually.

AT which point, we have a choice, accept putin and a dictator or NOT accept them.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
12. Noel Francisco will need to recuse himself because of his ties to CONald
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 06:49 PM
Sep 2018

drumpf's previous law firm. I believe Rosenstein will survive Thursday to continue on with the Mueller investigation. How many times can drumpf obstruct justice?!

bdamomma

(64,019 posts)
33. Yes we are at war,
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 09:11 PM
Sep 2018

They will not stop, and do not doubt for one minute they will overturn Roe. They are slapping us in our faces. Fuck that!!!! Trying to intimidate us??? oh, that will bite them back.

eleny

(46,166 posts)
6. I'm sure you're right about that!
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 06:35 PM
Sep 2018

And I bet they're negotiating the sun, moon and stars goodies for Maine and Alaska, too. Those could be empty promises if the Dems take the Senate. All for naught. That would seal Collins's and Murkwoski's political fates. For the sake of American women, how I wish those two were running this November.

euphorb

(280 posts)
7. Collins isn't relevant to this vote.
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 06:36 PM
Sep 2018

Grassley is the chairman of the Judiciary Committee. The vote he scheduled for Friday is the committee vote. Collins is not on the committee.

eleny

(46,166 posts)
9. It will pass the committee
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 06:38 PM
Sep 2018

But Collins is pivotal for the full Senate vote. I believe her decision gives cover for Murkowski to vote against seating Kav.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
11. Murkowsli's facing a boatload of pressure from her NA constituents. Can't afford to count her out.
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 06:43 PM
Sep 2018

eleny

(46,166 posts)
17. I so hope you're right
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 06:53 PM
Sep 2018

Who knows what the Republicans are negotiating with her. And with Kavanaugh, too, so he won't screw Murkowski's constituents. This whole bloody deal is probably full of quid pro quo, back slaps and handshakes.

I have the suspicion that Trump has even promised Kavanaugh the Chief Justice position if the opportunity arises in the form of a Roberts early retirement. I wouldn't put it past Trump or Kavanaugh. No evidence tells me that Roberts wants to remain on the court into his 80s. I do see articles predicting that he'll be the swing vote after Kav is seated. Roberts may not like being leaned on by irritating calls from Trump who won't hesitate to try to influence his votes.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
25. I don't think it would feel safe for Collins or Murkowski to speak out early- they're getting a ton
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 08:09 PM
Sep 2018

of pressure from liberals, but it’s nothing like the death threats and garbage they’ll get from RWers will give them if they stick their necks out early. Not worth it for them.
If they’re hanging their hats on saying this process is wrong, then I think they have other concerns - likely a multitude of them.

eleny

(46,166 posts)
22. yes, i'm aware. i wasn't clear about meaning the full senate vote
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 07:08 PM
Sep 2018

i'm thinking that they've been vote counting the entire republican senate. deals and threats must be happening.

still_one

(92,616 posts)
26. I didn't say he would or wouldn't, however, out of all the republilcans on that committee, if anyone
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 08:12 PM
Sep 2018

would do it, he would be the one, and depending on Thursday's hearing I think there is at least an even chance it can go either way


still_one

(92,616 posts)
32. He may be full of it, but if Grassly is now saying they may not have the vote on Friday after all
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 09:01 PM
Sep 2018

something is certain among the republicans on that committee



https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211180957


 

Bfd

(1,406 posts)
23. Felt a chill run thru my body reading this headline
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 07:28 PM
Sep 2018

The future of America begins Friday morning.
It will remain or it will descend.

I do not know how else to define Friday, September 28, 2018

We need the NO votes

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
35. :) I'm taking comfort in chaos theory and all the butterflies
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 07:38 AM
Sep 2018

fluttering in my garden this morning.

Seriously, 99.9% we will get an ultraconservative justice, the chance of keeping the seat open and gaining a majority in the senate is real but...not good. The voters and nonvoters of 2016, left and right, decided that in their deluded "wisdom."

But if it's Kavanaugh, we not only get an eminently impeachable justice should we need to but we get one who is likely going to have further revelations coming out right up to the midterms. Could be worse. Like a "respectable" ultraconservative justice the clueless right could see as a great victory without reservations and the press could get right to work normalizing.

Kablooie

(18,658 posts)
27. Avenatti's threat may have sped up the vote.
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 08:34 PM
Sep 2018

For him to reveal he has evidence of potential criminal behavior and threaten to release it but then withhold all specifics and names makes it nothing but a rumor.

This achieves nothing but a reason for Republicans to speed up the vote since it can be pushed aside as political gamesmanship.

He should either reveal who his clients are and what they will testify to or not say anything.

He often seems to threaten that he has ground shaking information but then not follow through with specifics.

Kablooie

(18,658 posts)
31. He may not really have what he promised.
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 09:00 PM
Sep 2018

Or doesn't have permission from his clients to release it with their names.

Mike Nelson

(10,012 posts)
30. I'm thinking...
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 08:59 PM
Sep 2018

… Grassley and McConnell are looing at the statements from the swing Senators & rumors of more sordid stories - and figure it's not going to get any better.

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