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Thu Sep 27, 2018, 07:09 PM

 

If We Don't Take The Senate Easily Now, We Never Will

I really don't know what else there is left for this country. We are all truly deplorable. If the OUTRAGE is not there, and EVERY SINGLE PERSON who is disgusted by what is happening doesn't vote, we have no future.

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Reply If We Don't Take The Senate Easily Now, We Never Will (Original post)
LandOfHopeAndDreams Sep 2018 OP
bdamomma Sep 2018 #1
LandOfHopeAndDreams Sep 2018 #2
Blue_true Sep 2018 #3
bdamomma Sep 2018 #4
Blue_true Sep 2018 #10
Thekaspervote Sep 2018 #18
Blue_true Sep 2018 #20
Demsrule86 Sep 2018 #24
Blue_true Sep 2018 #25
Demsrule86 Sep 2018 #29
rso Sep 2018 #5
Blue_true Sep 2018 #11
Demsrule86 Sep 2018 #30
still_one Sep 2018 #6
Blue_true Sep 2018 #13
Demsrule86 Sep 2018 #31
pangaia Sep 2018 #7
bdamomma Sep 2018 #12
bitterross Sep 2018 #27
Alhena Sep 2018 #8
Blue_true Sep 2018 #16
Squinch Sep 2018 #9
FloridaBlues Sep 2018 #14
Squinch Sep 2018 #21
unitedwethrive Sep 2018 #15
Demsrule86 Sep 2018 #23
Takket Sep 2018 #17
Thekaspervote Sep 2018 #19
Dream Girl Sep 2018 #28
Demsrule86 Sep 2018 #22
meadowlark5 Sep 2018 #26

Response to LandOfHopeAndDreams (Original post)

Thu Sep 27, 2018, 07:12 PM

1. and do our children

and grandchildren need to pay for these unscrupulous men?

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Response to bdamomma (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 27, 2018, 07:15 PM

2. I Have No Kids

 

I am Single in my 50's. I still care about what is left of this country to the next generation, and so on. But frankly, I'm close to giving up. I keep hearing how great this country is, but honestly, that is no longer true. Perhaps it's a happy memory from when we won WWII. Almost half the country is bent on creating a Dictatorship, and I frankly hope I'm not here when that truly comes to pass. I am not ready to leave right now though, and probably am running out of time.

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Response to LandOfHopeAndDreams (Reply #2)

Thu Sep 27, 2018, 07:20 PM

3. Your concern with have the country liking totalitarism is why I sometimes feel.

That we are all better off breaking up into 2 to 4 seperate countries.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #3)

Thu Sep 27, 2018, 07:23 PM

4. not to be

flip but that's Putin's goal.

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Response to bdamomma (Reply #4)

Thu Sep 27, 2018, 07:42 PM

10. I understand that, but to be rid of the right, I would still do it.

I am convinced that the country that I choose to go into would instantly become economically and defense wise (wise defense spending, technologically advanced, effective stuff) that Putin would not want to remotely fuck with it.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #10)

Thu Sep 27, 2018, 07:57 PM

18. If the country were to split Into 2-4 separate countries it will leave ALL of us with serious

Enemies on our direct borders. The economically poorer countries, the south, the daktoas, other areas would be gladly taking aid from foreign adversaries. We would end up weak and in an endless series of wars. Just like the Middle East.

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Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #18)

Thu Sep 27, 2018, 08:05 PM

20. I don't know whether I agree with that.

My guess, we become a smaller, far more powerful Germany. We would believe in science, which would allow us to do things technologically that the right currently prevent. We believe in economic commonwealth, which will allow us to build a strong vibrant economy. Our biggest problem would be keeping rightwingers from migrating into our country from their totally screwed up country(ies). We would not believe in war first as a solution to hostility toward us, but we would not be by any stretch of the imagination a military pushover, on contrary, we would have such technologically advanced weapons that nothing could compete with them.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #20)

Thu Sep 27, 2018, 08:11 PM

24. That won't ever happen. There will be no split.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #24)

Thu Sep 27, 2018, 08:16 PM

25. I can dream, can't I?



Seriously, the right and the evangelical right make me want to scream like a wild man often, getting rid of them short of killing them or something gross like that) would be sweet respite for me. Separating from them and going my way with like minded people would be idea.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #25)

Thu Sep 27, 2018, 09:00 PM

29. I hate the too...they are willing to put a rapist on the court disgusting.

I hope all on our side will realize how important the courts going forward...don't give up. Let's make phone call to the Senate like never before.

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Response to LandOfHopeAndDreams (Original post)

Thu Sep 27, 2018, 07:25 PM

5. Senate

Actually, this yearís map for democrats is pretty bad. But 2020 will be much better.

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Response to rso (Reply #5)

Thu Sep 27, 2018, 07:48 PM

11. But Dems are in a position to potentially flip 2-3 republican seats.

Nevada, Texas and Arizona. A fourth may be Kansas and potentially a fifth in Mississippi (if the republican nut finishes in the top two with Epsy instead of the remotely sane republican).

Right now, the only Dem seat that is competitive is Heitkamp, Nelson looks to be pulling away from Scott. Last I saw Heitkamp was ahead.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #11)

Thu Sep 27, 2018, 09:03 PM

30. These are toss up races in traditionally red states...

I hope we win, but it isn't sure. And we have 25 I think Senators on the line including red state Democrats like the much maligned Manchin...who voted with us when the GOP failed to end the ACA...one vote would have made the difference. There is also Claire McCaskill and others. We are also vulnerable in Florida.

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Response to LandOfHopeAndDreams (Original post)

Thu Sep 27, 2018, 07:31 PM

6. The Senate is a long shot, and always was, but you scenaro is NOT valid. 2020 is around the corner,

and we have a real fighting chance for the House in the midterms

While no doubt we will be screwed judicially for the next two years if we lose the Senate, if we take the House we can stop a lot of horrendous legislation from going through, and start investigating the abuse of power in the House

The one hope we have against the most extreme judges will be Roberts

Not comforting, but it is what it is






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Response to still_one (Reply #6)

Thu Sep 27, 2018, 07:51 PM

13. I hold out hope that Roberts will stop repeal of Roe v Wade.

I have gotten the sense that full repeal is a bridge too far for him. I see him as a Chris Wallace type, conservative, but with limits, plus he has kids that are somewhere around young adulthood like Wallace.

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Response to still_one (Reply #6)

Thu Sep 27, 2018, 09:04 PM

31. +1000 Exactly right.

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Response to LandOfHopeAndDreams (Original post)

Thu Sep 27, 2018, 07:34 PM

7. Most "Americans" have no idea what is happening.



That's the problem..

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Response to pangaia (Reply #7)

Thu Sep 27, 2018, 07:51 PM

12. sad

that is this criminals regime way of taking control have ignorance/stupidity among its citizens you can control them better.

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Response to pangaia (Reply #7)

Thu Sep 27, 2018, 08:33 PM

27. True. The ones that care are gerrymandered to not count. /nt

 

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Response to LandOfHopeAndDreams (Original post)

Thu Sep 27, 2018, 07:37 PM

8. Do West Virginians and North Dakotans see these issues like we do?

I guess we'll find out, but I have some doubt about white working class Americans after they voted for Trump.

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Response to Alhena (Reply #8)

Thu Sep 27, 2018, 07:55 PM

16. Heitkamp and The Dem in WV are ahead in their races.

People ignore the fact that the margins in state level races come down to local issues, both Heitkamp and Manchin have been attentive to the needs of locals. In WV now, a congressional seat is in play, if I remember the last poll, the Dem was leading.

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Response to LandOfHopeAndDreams (Original post)

Thu Sep 27, 2018, 07:40 PM

9. It's very very very unlikely this year.

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Response to Squinch (Reply #9)

Thu Sep 27, 2018, 07:52 PM

14. We must take over both congress and senate full stop!

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Response to FloridaBlues (Reply #14)

Thu Sep 27, 2018, 08:07 PM

21. I suspect we will get the Senate in 2020, but this year the numbers make it very unlikely.

The House looks better and better, though.

That is not to say the Senate is impossible this year, but chances are against it.

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Response to LandOfHopeAndDreams (Original post)

Thu Sep 27, 2018, 07:53 PM

15. I just had a registered Independent friend write on Facebook:

"If the Republicans are going to give an accused attempted rapist a lifetime job, then I'm going to never vote for a Republican again in my lifetime. Who pledges to join me?"

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Response to unitedwethrive (Reply #15)

Thu Sep 27, 2018, 08:10 PM

23. I never have voted for the GOP and never will, but let us pledge to vote for all Democratic

candidates not just the ones that 'inspire' us the GOP wins because they vote GOP all the time.

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Response to LandOfHopeAndDreams (Original post)

Thu Sep 27, 2018, 07:57 PM

17. here is the breakdown from 538

80% chance the people take back the house

only 30% chance the people take the Senate but still a LOT of polling to go and so many undecideds to break. We NEED them to break our way.


The "most likely" scenario right now is we gain 1 seat and it is a 50/50 split

Right now that "flipped" seat is projected to be Nevada. In addition to defending ALL our incumbent seats (North Dakota is VERY close but leaning Dem), we need to flip one more. That other seat is most likely Tennessee or Texas (which i never thought would be dangerous for Cruz, but Beto is doing better than expected).

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2018-midterm-election-forecast/house/?ex_cid=rrpromo
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2018-midterm-election-forecast/senate/?ex_cid=midterms-header

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Response to LandOfHopeAndDreams (Original post)

Thu Sep 27, 2018, 08:00 PM

19. We must ... repeat we MUST be willing to play the long game. It may look like that now, but the

Winds of fortune will change. They the gopeeee can try and hold back progress but itís impossible. Remember they want us to believe what you are saying and give up... please please donít go there!!

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Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #19)

Thu Sep 27, 2018, 08:38 PM

28. This!!!

 

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Response to LandOfHopeAndDreams (Original post)

Thu Sep 27, 2018, 08:08 PM

22. That is untrue.

The senate is tough for us we have what 25 seats up...many in red states...and the GOP has 8...it will be great if we win, but it is not a slam dunk and in two years we face more favorable numbers. I hope we do take the Senate so as to shut down judges of any kind.

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Response to LandOfHopeAndDreams (Original post)

Thu Sep 27, 2018, 08:24 PM

26. If we don't take the senate or the house, it will be because of Russia

I am not totally secure that they haven't worked for two years to actually flip votes in close races.

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