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Sat Sep 29, 2018, 08:22 AM

Trump official caught OKing family separation plan she said didn't exist

By Dan Desai Martin - September 28, 2018

More lies emerge about the family separation program that callously ripped apart immigrant families.

Contrary to the lies told by Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, the Trump administration knew exactly what it was doing when it instituted its cruel policy of tearing families apart, leading to the abhorrent baby jails and other atrocities revealed over the summer of 2018.

A newly uncovered memo, signed in April, shows the Trump administration was fully aware of what its “zero tolerance” border policy would do to families. According to Buzzfeed:

Nielsen signed off on the option to prosecute all adults who crossed the border illegally, including those with kids, knowing it would lead to family separations. The administration’s ‘zero tolerance’ policy, which sought to prosecute every adult caught crossing the border illegally, resulted in thousands of families being separated, with some parents being deported without their children.

Even though the memo was signed in April, Nielsen blatantly lied about the policy both in conversations with reporters and on social media. On June 17, 2018, almost a month after signing the memo, Neilsen wrote, “We do not have a policy of separating families at the border. Period.”

https://shareblue.com/kirstjen-nielsen-family-separation-immigration-memo/

So the Vanilla Queen #3 is basically full of right wing racists shit.

I just wonder if this person ever put her self in someones else shoes....................I fucking doubt it.............

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Reply Trump official caught OKing family separation plan she said didn't exist (Original post)
turbinetree Sep 2018 OP
Faux pas Sep 2018 #1
dalton99a Sep 2018 #2
2naSalit Sep 2018 #3
MagickMuffin Sep 2018 #16
vlyons Sep 2018 #17
KPN Sep 2018 #21
essaynnc Sep 2018 #4
in2herbs Sep 2018 #7
Fred Sanders Sep 2018 #8
ancianita Sep 2018 #10
KPN Sep 2018 #23
dlk Sep 2018 #5
Eliot Rosewater Sep 2018 #26
pecosbob Sep 2018 #6
SunSeeker Sep 2018 #11
Hortensis Sep 2018 #9
ancianita Sep 2018 #14
Hortensis Sep 2018 #18
ancianita Sep 2018 #24
Hortensis Sep 2018 #25
ancianita Sep 2018 #28
SunSeeker Sep 2018 #12
PaulX2 Sep 2018 #13
calimary Sep 2018 #15
hostalover Sep 2018 #19
KPN Sep 2018 #20
ancianita Sep 2018 #29
Samspadesnark Sep 2018 #22
FakeNoose Sep 2018 #27

Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Sat Sep 29, 2018, 08:25 AM

1. Kickin' with disgust

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Sat Sep 29, 2018, 08:26 AM

2. The child kidnapper is a full-fledged white supremacist

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Sat Sep 29, 2018, 08:39 AM

3. They needed

new young victims for their human trafficking empire.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #3)

Sat Sep 29, 2018, 10:31 AM

16. Yep, that's my thoughts on the "child stealing enterprise"


They can carry on with their pedo parties.

Because every time the repuglican party starts barking about democrats and pizza pedo-parlors they are exposing themselves!



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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #3)

Sat Sep 29, 2018, 10:50 AM

17. I thought the plan was

too be so horrible and scarey that rumors of it would reach down to people contemplating immigration to the US and then decide not to risk it. But then all those kids in detention represents big revenue income to the keepers and sales receipts if placed out in adoptions. Always always with Republicans, follow the money.

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Response to vlyons (Reply #17)

Sat Sep 29, 2018, 11:21 AM

21. Don't fool yourself -- the plan was to wrench control of the federal government away

from the people permanently regardless of means and effect. I pray for unintended consequences in the form of hostile political blowback; vicious blowback would not offend me at this point.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Sat Sep 29, 2018, 08:47 AM

4. What repercussions do they suffer for lying?

Since she lied, throw her ass in jail until all of the families are reunited! That would motivate somebody! Maybe work down the list, the next in command goes to the slammer if we don't see adequate progress.

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Response to essaynnc (Reply #4)

Sat Sep 29, 2018, 09:59 AM

7. Throwing members of the Administration in jail has always been one of the coercive actions

at the judiciary's disposal but they refuse to do it. The judiciary has given the job of reuniting already affected families to the ACLU and ignores that the Administration creates new victims every day.

Show these vile people the same mercy they are showing the families they are tearing apart.

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Response to essaynnc (Reply #4)

Sat Sep 29, 2018, 09:59 AM

8. The complete loss of political power and then prosecutions, as it always is.

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #8)

Sat Sep 29, 2018, 10:15 AM

10. And abdication of enforcment by court order.

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Response to essaynnc (Reply #4)

Sat Sep 29, 2018, 11:30 AM

23. None right now. But wait. Their time is coming. There WILL be blowback. We shall

overcome!

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Sat Sep 29, 2018, 09:37 AM

5. People with No Conscience (Psychopaths, Sociopaths) Are Incapable of Feeling Empathy or Compassion

They are, however, talented at faking it.

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Response to dlk (Reply #5)

Sat Sep 29, 2018, 12:18 PM

26. And 45 million Americans want them to cause MORE pain to these children.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Sat Sep 29, 2018, 09:57 AM

6. Expect a few actual 'angry Democrats' will have a few questions for Ms. Nielsen next year

when the House turns blue. Dems should be able to bring about her removal.

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Response to pecosbob (Reply #6)

Sat Sep 29, 2018, 10:20 AM

11. That would be lovely! Every Dem must vote in November!

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Sat Sep 29, 2018, 10:08 AM

9. Glad she's documented, but we knew the program was designed to

to employ extreme cruelty against children and families specifically to deter fleeing refugees from seeking safety in America.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #9)

Sat Sep 29, 2018, 10:30 AM

14. "We" at DU learned of it, but nationwide there was nothing in writing to make us aware enough

to see the scale of actual systematic spending, buildup and expansion of child "distribution" across the country. Border crossing drama was always a given, but not this.

Even locals say they weren't aware of what the government buildings were for, except to house "illegals," while most of America assumed policy about what to do with immigrant families was carried out directly at gateway points.

Only later, when Trump raised the "massive invasion" complaint, and a couple of camp escapees told their stories, did media took a closer look at what had actually been built beyond the crossings.

So we didn't actually know about the family program specifics at a national level, and that this has been some some institutionalized white supremacist evil.

Now we do.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #14)

Sat Sep 29, 2018, 11:05 AM

18. I've since read that planning started before Trump

took office, but leaks that this was being discussed started very shortly after and were reported in written media. Of course that was then immediately swept away by the 24/7 tsunami of new stories that has come to seem normal. Even WWIII would be old news by the end of a week.

In any case, I saw and posted it here in early 2017 but then didn't notice it again until they started separating families and it hit the front page so to speak. But it was out there.

Several months ago we got warning that detention camps that could ultimately hold up to a couple hundred thousand were being planned for a naval base in Texas, some followup coverage about the Navy's unwillingness to be involved in running or paying for that, but then mention of that mostly disappeared. At least I found nothing when I did a quick look a month or so ago.

But there have been lots of other stories of other facilities in various states. There's a "detention alley" in Texas, I think that's what that area's called now, because of all the new facilities that keep being added. Of necessity to hold the people they've grabbed, including likely many of those "legal until declared illegal" residents we've been hearing about.

Haven't looked for a while, though. Once again I along with most everyone else will be "surprised" into awareness when atrocities finally appear on TV and cable news.

COUNTDOWN TO CONTROL OF "TRUMP" BY A DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS: 37 days!

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #18)

Sat Sep 29, 2018, 11:42 AM

24. Thanks for the summary details. Once these places are built, they're hard to defund and dismantle,

and must be constantly monitored -- by whom, I don't know -- media, court ordered DOJ monitoring, local authorities -- for any renewed immigration abuses they might house.

This latest evil can continue with new players, whether Nielsen or her subordinates are penalized and jailed, or not.

I hope we at DU keep an eye on this arena of human rights violations, and spread the word to keep new events in the national news spotlight.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #24)

Sat Sep 29, 2018, 12:16 PM

25. These are mostly meant to be emptied, needless to say

need not be refilled. Our courts have been doing the best job of protecting people and our democracy that laws as written allow, and that's been very good overall. They've halted and avoided a lot of tragedies and atrocities and will continue their functions, with implementation of ordered greatly facilitated by Democrats in office.

As best we can. PLEASE let us get majorities, if not control, of both houses of congress.



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Response to Hortensis (Reply #25)

Sat Sep 29, 2018, 12:28 PM

28. Heartily agree.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Sat Sep 29, 2018, 10:21 AM

12. K & R for exposure.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Sat Sep 29, 2018, 10:21 AM

13. Put All Trumpscum In Prison

 

Where they belong.

Lying scum.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Sat Sep 29, 2018, 10:31 AM

15. K&R!

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Sat Sep 29, 2018, 11:12 AM

19. I hate them so much.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Sat Sep 29, 2018, 11:16 AM

20. These peope are wholly untrustworthy to say the least, yet we are saddled with them for now.

GOTV! And then GOTV again in 2020, and 2022, 2024, 2026, 2028, etc. We need to bury these people in our past, forever -- or, being somewhat realistic, at the very least a few generations.

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Response to KPN (Reply #20)

Sat Sep 29, 2018, 12:29 PM

29. +1000!

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Sat Sep 29, 2018, 11:28 AM

22. I see all of this as a dress rehearsal

For how they intend to treat political dissenters, if they ever have their way. They (the Trumpsters) have chosen as a group, and along with their leader, to go full-blown Kremlin. I hope every person votes this fall like their lives depend on it, because they do.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Sat Sep 29, 2018, 12:26 PM

27. When this started last Spring, they said it was Jeff Sessions

How could this be Nielson's policy, if it was started by Sessions? Somehow I think we're still missing some of the pieces. We know Cheeto's fingerprints are all over this.

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