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Avenatti: This will undermine the legitimacy of the entire process (Original Post) triron Sep 2018 OP
So far two out of three are being investigated democratic friend Sep 2018 #1
Look at the report he's referencing. triron Sep 2018 #2
He's upset that the WH gets to define the scope of the investigation. Drunken Irishman Sep 2018 #3
Is that protocol? I mean what more can be done democratic friend Sep 2018 #6
If they are instructed to only interview 4 or 5 people, that's all they will do....... getagrip_already Sep 2018 #4
They tried that same shit on Mueller... lame54 Sep 2018 #5
sessions didn't write muehlers instructions...... getagrip_already Sep 2018 #12
Trump played the red line about his finances... lame54 Sep 2018 #13
trump didn't write the instructions eother...... getagrip_already Sep 2018 #14
They're not robots... lame54 Sep 2018 #15
actually, they don't..... getagrip_already Sep 2018 #17
scope is very limited..... read the story here getagrip_already Sep 2018 #18
I've read a lot and listened a lot... lame54 Sep 2018 #21
I like your optimism..... getagrip_already Sep 2018 #22
I was expecting tRump to limit it to just Prof Ford 4139 Sep 2018 #7
Why doesn't Avenatti just call the FBI and ask? Jersey Devil Sep 2018 #8
Good point. triron Sep 2018 #10
maybe not.... getagrip_already Sep 2018 #16
This article suggests that the FBI may determine the scope. triron Sep 2018 #9
Rather depends on the request made of the FBI. Igel Sep 2018 #11
or also being told... getagrip_already Sep 2018 #20
this one says they have..... getagrip_already Sep 2018 #19
 

democratic friend

(137 posts)
1. So far two out of three are being investigated
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 04:30 PM
Sep 2018

Being the third accused I can see why they would be last to be questioned. Not sure why he’s upset in less then 24 hours. Although it is getting close to 24- hours.

 

democratic friend

(137 posts)
6. Is that protocol? I mean what more can be done
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 04:41 PM
Sep 2018

I’m stunned this is being done. Had they not extended time yesterday this would not be happening. With what they have, Kavanugh will get a negative report.

getagrip_already

(14,825 posts)
4. If they are instructed to only interview 4 or 5 people, that's all they will do.......
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 04:38 PM
Sep 2018

They aren't hunting dogs. They are computers in this case. They can only do what they are programmed to do.

getagrip_already

(14,825 posts)
12. sessions didn't write muehlers instructions......
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 05:00 PM
Sep 2018

Rosenstein did, and he made them very broad.

Sessions most likely wrote those instructions himself. Think of what graham would write. They are out of the same mold.

Even with a broad scope though, a lot wouldn't get turned up. They are just basically documenting what people tell them. The questions will be in line with the scope of their probe. If it is specific to an allegation, they will only ask about that.

If someone offers information, they will document it, but they won't go fishing unless they are told they can.

Notice for example they didn't set up a tip line. They do that in a lot of investigations, but not here. Someone would need to cold call an fbi office to try to offer information. Not as easy as it sounds I'm sure.

getagrip_already

(14,825 posts)
14. trump didn't write the instructions eother......
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 05:04 PM
Sep 2018

Muehlers direct boss is rosenstein. nd rosenstein didn't limit him in that way.

Seessions would.

getagrip_already

(14,825 posts)
17. actually, they don't.....
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 05:15 PM
Sep 2018

I've been through this process. Everyone who has been through a background check for a security clearance has. I've had people tell me the fbi called them and told me what questions they asked. I've also been called about people.

The questions are very focussed. The only open ended question they ask if if there is anything you can think of that would impact the persons fitness for a specific job. They don't call people you don't tell them about. They don't dig. At least not until you go for a nose-bleed level clearance. Then it becomes a life style review. But the basic background check isn't that.

But no matter what they are told, they just write it in the report; someone else will determine if it is important If it warrants further investigation, they would refer it for review elsewhere in the agency. You would never know a thing about until and unless indictments result.

But if you read the report, it won't say anything except what the interview revealed.

This isn't a criminal investigation. it's a background check. Nobody has said its anything else.

lame54

(35,317 posts)
21. I've read a lot and listened a lot...
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 05:49 PM
Sep 2018

I still think don't see this as routine

they will dig up something

getagrip_already

(14,825 posts)
22. I like your optimism.....
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 05:56 PM
Sep 2018

But it's probably already completed. They are just doing an internal review of the documents to make sure they are complete and accurate.

At the very latest, the senate will have a stack of reports monday morning. they will probably vote immediately after summarizing them.

There won't be anything we don't already know. They aren't talking to anybody new.

getagrip_already

(14,825 posts)
16. maybe not....
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 05:07 PM
Sep 2018

The fbi isn't going to disclose the scope of its investigation. They might not even tell him who they are contacting.

His client can surely make a direct statement, but she has already submitted an affadavid. If they don't contact her directly to ask additional questions, she is out of scope.

That would be pretty telling. I suspect this is the one issue they don't want credibility built around. They won't let the fbi go near it.

Igel

(35,350 posts)
11. Rather depends on the request made of the FBI.
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 05:00 PM
Sep 2018

It's like being an employee. If your boss says, "Check out the appropriate software for managing our supply chain, receivables, and accounting" you have fairly wide discretion; if he says, "Check to see if ProfitKeeper will allow us to monitor day-to-day supply flow of ISO-FF-2934(b) ceramic wuglings at this facility for the production of item #3948phi#" you don't.

getagrip_already

(14,825 posts)
20. or also being told...
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 05:22 PM
Sep 2018

to spend no more than 30 minutes on it, and don't make any phone calls or emails; only use the companies website.

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