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(1,975 posts)
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 07:54 PM Sep 2018

Jeff Flake on 60 minutes "Not a chance Id call for investigation if I was running again."

Once again, this just shows how partisan and poisonous this countries politics has become.

Flake: If I were running for reelection ‘not a chance’ I’d call for Kavanaugh investigation

Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) said Sunday that there's "not a chance" he would have called for an FBI investigation into the allegations of sexual misconduct against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh if he were running for reelection.

"Not a chance," Flake said when asked on CBS's "60 Minutes" if he would have asked for the investigation if he were up for reelection in the November midterms.


"There's no value to reaching across the aisle," Flake said. "There's no currency for that anymore. There's no incentive."
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Jeff Flake on 60 minutes "Not a chance Id call for investigation if I was running again." (Original Post) Separation Sep 2018 OP
I hope the Dems are listening. Baitball Blogger Sep 2018 #1
They started that in Nixon's time RainCaster Sep 2018 #4
So the reaction to crappy behavior is to give it right back? mythology Sep 2018 #17
We've tried the high road dflprincess Sep 2018 #19
No one is smart enough to take the high ground to beat supreme evil. Baitball Blogger Sep 2018 #21
+1,000,000 Dawson Leery Sep 2018 #29
Spineless wussy RainCaster Sep 2018 #2
So he would decide to keep his seat rather than do the right thing. Power hungry? SharonAnn Sep 2018 #16
He would do the wrong thing in order to retain power? To do more wrong. SharonAnn Sep 2018 #20
Horrible bdamomma Sep 2018 #3
I'm glad he said that. dchill Sep 2018 #5
Well, there ya go. Kajun Gal Sep 2018 #6
So the whole elevator conversation wouldn't have changed him. mucifer Sep 2018 #7
Flake: "Doin the right thing SUCKS !! " uponit7771 Sep 2018 #8
He's right. The pressure on them from the base AND the party AND the Senators is immense.... Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #9
Lust for power wins over doing the right thing. What good is power? To do evil? SharonAnn Sep 2018 #18
I know. But history is full of this. People in power, even dying for it. Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #24
EXACTLY... Raine Sep 2018 #25
Ah, an honest coward . . . hatrack Sep 2018 #10
Representatives shadowmayor Sep 2018 #11
Bwah HAH!1 Well, *that's* refreshing!1 UTUSN Sep 2018 #12
Which is a foreshadowing of Collins and Murkowski voting to confirm regardless of how sham-y RockRaven Sep 2018 #13
2020 is not that far off Zambero Sep 2018 #26
Basically admits he's a coward Thrill Sep 2018 #14
Listen, these assholes who make up the base have been waiting for this a long time ProudLib72 Sep 2018 #15
Flake is a craven idiot with no morals like trump and kavanaugh. Cha Sep 2018 #22
Situational ethics much? 3catwoman3 Sep 2018 #23
If Larry Hogan were the Governor of South Carolina, Dawson Leery Sep 2018 #27
And now we know about The Conscience of a Conservative - no reason to read the book Raven123 Sep 2018 #28
Shocker Solly Mack Sep 2018 #30
Pres. Obama spent 8 years trying to reach across the aisle. NCjack Sep 2018 #31
Flake can forget any Presidential ambitions LibDemAlways Sep 2018 #32
Piece of shit, he is. pangaia Sep 2018 #33
What a lame ass excuse from a lame ass person. shanny Sep 2018 #34
Republican voters do Turbineguy Sep 2018 #35
So Kavanaugh will be confirmed and this was a pointless exercise. Surprise surprise. Neema Sep 2018 #36
That he frames it as "reaching across the aisle" is more than a little disturbing. Garrett78 Oct 2018 #37

Baitball Blogger

(46,421 posts)
1. I hope the Dems are listening.
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 07:56 PM
Sep 2018

The Republicans began to poison the waters during Newt Gingrich's time. His tactics led to where we are today.

RainCaster

(10,507 posts)
4. They started that in Nixon's time
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 08:00 PM
Sep 2018

And it got worse with the"moral majority" in Reagan's time. Then there was Duck Cheney. And Dubya

Baitball Blogger

(46,421 posts)
21. No one is smart enough to take the high ground to beat supreme evil.
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 08:34 PM
Sep 2018

No one. They have become a cultural phenomenon that won't stop until they face consequences that will deter others.

dchill

(38,074 posts)
5. I'm glad he said that.
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 08:02 PM
Sep 2018

I was starting to think he might have a reasonable bone in his body, somewhere. I'm cured, now.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
9. He's right. The pressure on them from the base AND the party AND the Senators is immense....
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 08:09 PM
Sep 2018

there will be hell to pay if they vote no. That's why I think they will vote yes. If they don't, they may not have a future in the Senate. If there's one thing that I've observed about people in power, it's that they do NOT give up that power willingly. Those senators will do what it takes to hang onto their positions, if they are planning to remain Senators.

If someone votes no, McConnell might very well kick them off committees, and the other Senators will ostracize them. This is what happened to Al Franken. He had to resign because the Senate is a group effort. A senator cannot function alone. He needs the others in his party to collaborate with, cosponsor and support bills, serve on committees. Once Schumer "suggested" Franken could not remain, Franken was essentially forced to resign.

That's how it might be with Murkowski and even Flake. I'm not so sure about Collins...she is so popular and has quite a bit of power in the party. But things could be difficult for her, too.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
24. I know. But history is full of this. People in power, even dying for it.
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 08:35 PM
Sep 2018

I wonder about all the people who insisted on claiming, or hanging onto, a royal crown, even to the point of execution, when they could leave and live in comfort with their wealth. Like King Henry VIII's first wife, Catharine, whom he wanted to divorce. She would not allow it, when she could have retired somewhere with a mansion, money, servants...he'd offered her that. Instead, she fought it, and ended up with a lot less (although she was provided for). Mary Queen of Scots kept plotting to become Queen of England, which she claimed as a birthright...when she was Queen of Scotland, with a castle, money, and all the rest. She ended up a prisoner for years, and finally beheaded. Go figure.

Raine

(30,458 posts)
25. EXACTLY...
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 08:37 PM
Sep 2018

it's awful and I don't see anyone having the guts to do different and if they try they end up shunned and worse. Eventually they find themselves out on their ass so their effort was all in vain.

shadowmayor

(1,325 posts)
11. Representatives
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 08:10 PM
Sep 2018

The job of a representative is to do what is right, regardless of what their constituency feels. Otherwise, just let the mob rule. If he doesn't have enough balls to lead when his neck is on the line - I have zero respect for him. What a friggin' worm.

RockRaven

(14,608 posts)
13. Which is a foreshadowing of Collins and Murkowski voting to confirm regardless of how sham-y
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 08:21 PM
Sep 2018

the investigation is.

Zambero

(8,936 posts)
26. 2020 is not that far off
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 08:38 PM
Sep 2018

In the event that they do vote to confirm the creep, those votes will not be soon forgotten. Any Democrats and a great many independents who voted for those two on the basis of their being "moderates" in the past will not be making the same mistake again.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
15. Listen, these assholes who make up the base have been waiting for this a long time
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 08:24 PM
Sep 2018

They know the political struggle on Capitol Hill will eventually spill out into the streets, and that's why they have been calling for a civil war.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
27. If Larry Hogan were the Governor of South Carolina,
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 08:44 PM
Sep 2018

he would be 100% behind Kavanaugh.

Never trust a Republican.

Flake is a coward.

NCjack

(10,277 posts)
31. Pres. Obama spent 8 years trying to reach across the aisle.
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 09:16 PM
Sep 2018

There will be no deals until the GOP is crushed and powerless. Then, a period will come in which both sides will cooperate, until the GOP gets the strength to make another run at subjugating us.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
32. Flake can forget any Presidential ambitions
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 09:17 PM
Sep 2018

after that comment. He might as well get a tattoo on his forehead reading "Craven Coward." What an asshole.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
33. Piece of shit, he is.
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 09:19 PM
Sep 2018

And what he learned from the elevator was that.. "america is divided.'

Jesus on a stick, this guy is fucking stupid.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
34. What a lame ass excuse from a lame ass person.
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 09:59 PM
Sep 2018

I am very principled but NO WAY would I do this if I were running for re-election (because I'm an effing COWARD) (i.e both sides do it and it's the Ds' fault). smdh

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
37. That he frames it as "reaching across the aisle" is more than a little disturbing.
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 01:25 AM
Oct 2018

We're talking about investigating a credible accusation of attempted rape. We're not talking about compromising on tax legislation.

Good grief.

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