Sun Sep 30, 2018, 08:54 PM
Separation (1,972 posts)
Jeff Flake on 60 minutes "Not a chance Id call for investigation if I was running again."
Once again, this just shows how partisan and poisonous this countries politics has become.
Flake: If I were running for reelection ‘not a chance’ I’d call for Kavanaugh investigation Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) said Sunday that there's "not a chance" he would have called for an FBI investigation into the allegations of sexual misconduct against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh if he were running for reelection.
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Separation | Sep 2018 | OP |
Baitball Blogger | Sep 2018 | #1 | |
RainCaster | Sep 2018 | #4 | |
mythology | Sep 2018 | #17 | |
dflprincess | Sep 2018 | #19 | |
Baitball Blogger | Sep 2018 | #21 | |
Dawson Leery | Sep 2018 | #29 | |
RainCaster | Sep 2018 | #2 | |
SharonAnn | Sep 2018 | #16 | |
SharonAnn | Sep 2018 | #20 | |
bdamomma | Sep 2018 | #3 | |
dchill | Sep 2018 | #5 | |
Kajun Gal | Sep 2018 | #6 | |
mucifer | Sep 2018 | #7 | |
uponit7771 | Sep 2018 | #8 | |
Honeycombe8 | Sep 2018 | #9 | |
SharonAnn | Sep 2018 | #18 | |
Honeycombe8 | Sep 2018 | #24 | |
Raine | Sep 2018 | #25 | |
hatrack | Sep 2018 | #10 | |
shadowmayor | Sep 2018 | #11 | |
UTUSN | Sep 2018 | #12 | |
RockRaven | Sep 2018 | #13 | |
Zambero | Sep 2018 | #26 | |
Thrill | Sep 2018 | #14 | |
ProudLib72 | Sep 2018 | #15 | |
Cha | Sep 2018 | #22 | |
3catwoman3 | Sep 2018 | #23 | |
Dawson Leery | Sep 2018 | #27 | |
Raven123 | Sep 2018 | #28 | |
Solly Mack | Sep 2018 | #30 | |
NCjack | Sep 2018 | #31 | |
LibDemAlways | Sep 2018 | #32 | |
pangaia | Sep 2018 | #33 | |
shanny | Sep 2018 | #34 | |
Turbineguy | Sep 2018 | #35 | |
Neema | Oct 2018 | #36 | |
Garrett78 | Oct 2018 | #37 |
Response to Separation (Original post)
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 08:56 PM
Baitball Blogger (42,838 posts)
1. I hope the Dems are listening.
The Republicans began to poison the waters during Newt Gingrich's time. His tactics led to where we are today.
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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #1)
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 09:00 PM
RainCaster (8,713 posts)
4. They started that in Nixon's time
And it got worse with the"moral majority" in Reagan's time. Then there was Duck Cheney. And Dubya
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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #1)
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 09:27 PM
mythology (9,527 posts)
17. So the reaction to crappy behavior is to give it right back?
No, be the change you want to see.
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Response to mythology (Reply #17)
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 09:30 PM
dflprincess (26,958 posts)
19. We've tried the high road
it hasn't worked.
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Response to mythology (Reply #17)
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 09:34 PM
Baitball Blogger (42,838 posts)
21. No one is smart enough to take the high ground to beat supreme evil.
No one. They have become a cultural phenomenon that won't stop until they face consequences that will deter others.
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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #21)
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 10:01 PM
Dawson Leery (19,278 posts)
29. +1,000,000
Response to Separation (Original post)
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 08:57 PM
RainCaster (8,713 posts)
2. Spineless wussy
Response to RainCaster (Reply #2)
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 09:26 PM
SharonAnn (13,316 posts)
16. So he would decide to keep his seat rather than do the right thing. Power hungry?
Response to SharonAnn (Reply #16)
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 09:32 PM
SharonAnn (13,316 posts)
20. He would do the wrong thing in order to retain power? To do more wrong.
Response to Separation (Original post)
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 09:00 PM
bdamomma (61,542 posts)
3. Horrible
I guess reaching across the aisle doesn't exist in trump land
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Response to Separation (Original post)
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 09:02 PM
dchill (31,887 posts)
5. I'm glad he said that.
I was starting to think he might have a reasonable bone in his body, somewhere. I'm cured, now.
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Response to Separation (Original post)
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 09:02 PM
Kajun Gal (1,907 posts)
6. Well, there ya go.
Response to Separation (Original post)
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 09:03 PM
mucifer (21,314 posts)
7. So the whole elevator conversation wouldn't have changed him.
Response to Separation (Original post)
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 09:06 PM
uponit7771 (85,988 posts)
8. Flake: "Doin the right thing SUCKS !! "
Response to Separation (Original post)
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 09:09 PM
Honeycombe8 (37,648 posts)
9. He's right. The pressure on them from the base AND the party AND the Senators is immense....
there will be hell to pay if they vote no. That's why I think they will vote yes. If they don't, they may not have a future in the Senate. If there's one thing that I've observed about people in power, it's that they do NOT give up that power willingly. Those senators will do what it takes to hang onto their positions, if they are planning to remain Senators.
If someone votes no, McConnell might very well kick them off committees, and the other Senators will ostracize them. This is what happened to Al Franken. He had to resign because the Senate is a group effort. A senator cannot function alone. He needs the others in his party to collaborate with, cosponsor and support bills, serve on committees. Once Schumer "suggested" Franken could not remain, Franken was essentially forced to resign. That's how it might be with Murkowski and even Flake. I'm not so sure about Collins...she is so popular and has quite a bit of power in the party. But things could be difficult for her, too. |
Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #9)
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 09:28 PM
SharonAnn (13,316 posts)
18. Lust for power wins over doing the right thing. What good is power? To do evil?
Response to SharonAnn (Reply #18)
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 09:35 PM
Honeycombe8 (37,648 posts)
24. I know. But history is full of this. People in power, even dying for it.
I wonder about all the people who insisted on claiming, or hanging onto, a royal crown, even to the point of execution, when they could leave and live in comfort with their wealth. Like King Henry VIII's first wife, Catharine, whom he wanted to divorce. She would not allow it, when she could have retired somewhere with a mansion, money, servants...he'd offered her that. Instead, she fought it, and ended up with a lot less (although she was provided for). Mary Queen of Scots kept plotting to become Queen of England, which she claimed as a birthright...when she was Queen of Scotland, with a castle, money, and all the rest. She ended up a prisoner for years, and finally beheaded. Go figure.
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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #9)
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 09:37 PM
Raine (28,178 posts)
25. EXACTLY...
it's awful and I don't see anyone having the guts to do different and if they try they end up shunned and worse. Eventually they find themselves out on their ass so their effort was all in vain.
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Response to Separation (Original post)
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 09:09 PM
hatrack (55,705 posts)
10. Ah, an honest coward . . .
Hooray.
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Response to Separation (Original post)
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 09:10 PM
shadowmayor (1,325 posts)
11. Representatives
The job of a representative is to do what is right, regardless of what their constituency feels. Otherwise, just let the mob rule. If he doesn't have enough balls to lead when his neck is on the line - I have zero respect for him. What a friggin' worm.
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Response to Separation (Original post)
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 09:15 PM
UTUSN (64,227 posts)
12. Bwah HAH!1 Well, *that's* refreshing!1
Response to Separation (Original post)
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 09:21 PM
RockRaven (10,588 posts)
13. Which is a foreshadowing of Collins and Murkowski voting to confirm regardless of how sham-y
the investigation is.
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Response to RockRaven (Reply #13)
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 09:38 PM
Zambero (7,327 posts)
26. 2020 is not that far off
In the event that they do vote to confirm the creep, those votes will not be soon forgotten. Any Democrats and a great many independents who voted for those two on the basis of their being "moderates" in the past will not be making the same mistake again.
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Response to Separation (Original post)
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 09:22 PM
Thrill (19,071 posts)
14. Basically admits he's a coward
Response to Separation (Original post)
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 09:24 PM
ProudLib72 (17,984 posts)
15. Listen, these assholes who make up the base have been waiting for this a long time
They know the political struggle on Capitol Hill will eventually spill out into the streets, and that's why they have been calling for a civil war.
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Response to Separation (Original post)
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 09:35 PM
Cha (276,872 posts)
22. Flake is a craven idiot with no morals like trump and kavanaugh.
Response to Separation (Original post)
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 09:35 PM
3catwoman3 (19,801 posts)
23. Situational ethics much?
What a phony.
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Response to Separation (Original post)
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 09:44 PM
Dawson Leery (19,278 posts)
27. If Larry Hogan were the Governor of South Carolina,
he would be 100% behind Kavanaugh.
Never trust a Republican. Flake is a coward. |
Response to Separation (Original post)
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 09:51 PM
Raven123 (3,104 posts)
28. And now we know about The Conscience of a Conservative - no reason to read the book
Response to Separation (Original post)
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 10:06 PM
Solly Mack (86,819 posts)
30. Shocker
Snort
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Response to Separation (Original post)
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 10:16 PM
NCjack (9,678 posts)
31. Pres. Obama spent 8 years trying to reach across the aisle.
There will be no deals until the GOP is crushed and powerless. Then, a period will come in which both sides will cooperate, until the GOP gets the strength to make another run at subjugating us.
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Response to Separation (Original post)
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 10:17 PM
LibDemAlways (15,139 posts)
32. Flake can forget any Presidential ambitions
after that comment. He might as well get a tattoo on his forehead reading "Craven Coward." What an asshole.
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Response to Separation (Original post)
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 10:19 PM
pangaia (24,324 posts)
33. Piece of shit, he is.
And what he learned from the elevator was that.. "america is divided.'
Jesus on a stick, this guy is fucking stupid. |
Response to Separation (Original post)
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 10:59 PM
shanny (6,709 posts)
34. What a lame ass excuse from a lame ass person.
I am very principled but NO WAY would I do this if I were running for re-election (because I'm an effing COWARD) (i.e both sides do it and it's the Ds' fault). smdh
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Response to Separation (Original post)
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 11:05 PM
Turbineguy (34,273 posts)
35. Republican voters do
an acceptable imitation of a goose-step. So Flake would get primaried.
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Response to Separation (Original post)
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 12:20 AM
Neema (1,147 posts)
36. So Kavanaugh will be confirmed and this was a pointless exercise. Surprise surprise.
Response to Separation (Original post)
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 02:25 AM
Garrett78 (10,721 posts)
37. That he frames it as "reaching across the aisle" is more than a little disturbing.
We're talking about investigating a credible accusation of attempted rape. We're not talking about compromising on tax legislation.
Good grief. |