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Name removed Oct 2018 OP
Funtatlaguy Oct 2018 #1
onecaliberal Oct 2018 #2
TwistOneUp Oct 2018 #3
Calculating Oct 2018 #4
Natron Oct 2018 #6
lapfog_1 Oct 2018 #8
BigmanPigman Oct 2018 #5
DFW Oct 2018 #7
mythology Oct 2018 #9

Response to Name removed (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:11 PM

1. Those things will happen no matter who is confirmed.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #1)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:11 PM

2. Sadly, yes.

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Response to Name removed (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:12 PM

3. No more rights for LGBT peeps. nt

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Response to Name removed (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:15 PM

4. I can't see Roe V Wade getting taken down

That would be political suicide for the right.

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Response to Calculating (Reply #4)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:22 PM

6. I agree

 

The right will not attack Roe v. Wade.
They may not agree with it but they will leave it alone.
They may use it as leverage though.

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Response to Calculating (Reply #4)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:31 PM

8. possibly... but they believe it must go as a moral imperative

the court would most likely go with "overturn" but grant the states the right to ban / not ban

then watch for some states to make it illegal to travel to another state or country for the purpose of having an abortion.

and that will lead to a whole new round of SCOTUS decisions on the legality of the restrictions.

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Response to Name removed (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:20 PM

5. The ACA for preexisting conditions is history.

Also, tRump will not be held accountable by Mueller.

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Response to Name removed (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:28 PM

7. So we give the Republicans a healthy dosage of their own medicine

We have a month to GOTV, contribute, register voters in those States where one still can, and flip the Senate. Then confirm NO Trump nominee to the Court. Don't even meet with them. Keep the seat open until the next president is in office. Let them choke on it, and tell them we are just taking their idea a step further. Then, when we have a safe 6-3 majority on the Court in 8 years, THEN enact a law that an opening on the Court must be acted upon by the Senate with three months of a nomination.

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Response to Name removed (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:36 PM

9. It depends on multiple factors.

 

Roberts isn't nearly as conservative as the current other 3 conservatives and seems to care about court legitimacy. I think he will continue to be a moderating voice that limits how far right the court will go.

Likewise Thomas isn't in the best health and getting up there in age statistically for a black man.

There's also the fact that historically speaking, the Supreme Court has actually reflected public opinion pretty well. The courts have been more restrained when public opinion is firmly against something. Some of that is fear of nonimplementation, but also the threat that new legislation will be implemented. So say the Supreme Court decided to make abortion a state issue. The backlash would be significant. Yes that has significant impact short term in many states, but it would prompt more people to vote and push for legalization. Not ideal, not a permanent position either.

Then there's the less rosy outlook where Ginsberg or Breyer retire. That would be worse, but I don't think either would step down under a Trump presidency. And I'm pretty sure Ginsberg would smack death in the face. Sure she's 85, but it's a badass 85.

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