Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
9 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Message auto-removed (Original Post) Name removed Oct 2018 OP
Those things will happen no matter who is confirmed. Funtatlaguy Oct 2018 #1
Sadly, yes. onecaliberal Oct 2018 #2
No more rights for LGBT peeps. nt TwistOneUp Oct 2018 #3
I can't see Roe V Wade getting taken down Calculating Oct 2018 #4
I agree Natron Oct 2018 #6
possibly... but they believe it must go as a moral imperative lapfog_1 Oct 2018 #8
The ACA for preexisting conditions is history. BigmanPigman Oct 2018 #5
So we give the Republicans a healthy dosage of their own medicine DFW Oct 2018 #7
It depends on multiple factors. mythology Oct 2018 #9

Funtatlaguy

(10,870 posts)
1. Those things will happen no matter who is confirmed.
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:11 PM
Oct 2018

onecaliberal

(32,816 posts)
2. Sadly, yes.
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:11 PM
Oct 2018

TwistOneUp

(1,020 posts)
3. No more rights for LGBT peeps. nt
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:12 PM
Oct 2018

Calculating

(2,955 posts)
4. I can't see Roe V Wade getting taken down
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:15 PM
Oct 2018

That would be political suicide for the right.

 

Natron

(18 posts)
6. I agree
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:22 PM
Oct 2018

The right will not attack Roe v. Wade.
They may not agree with it but they will leave it alone.
They may use it as leverage though.

lapfog_1

(29,199 posts)
8. possibly... but they believe it must go as a moral imperative
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:31 PM
Oct 2018

the court would most likely go with "overturn" but grant the states the right to ban / not ban

then watch for some states to make it illegal to travel to another state or country for the purpose of having an abortion.

and that will lead to a whole new round of SCOTUS decisions on the legality of the restrictions.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
5. The ACA for preexisting conditions is history.
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:20 PM
Oct 2018

Also, tRump will not be held accountable by Mueller.

DFW

(54,338 posts)
7. So we give the Republicans a healthy dosage of their own medicine
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:28 PM
Oct 2018

We have a month to GOTV, contribute, register voters in those States where one still can, and flip the Senate. Then confirm NO Trump nominee to the Court. Don't even meet with them. Keep the seat open until the next president is in office. Let them choke on it, and tell them we are just taking their idea a step further. Then, when we have a safe 6-3 majority on the Court in 8 years, THEN enact a law that an opening on the Court must be acted upon by the Senate with three months of a nomination.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
9. It depends on multiple factors.
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:36 PM
Oct 2018

Roberts isn't nearly as conservative as the current other 3 conservatives and seems to care about court legitimacy. I think he will continue to be a moderating voice that limits how far right the court will go.

Likewise Thomas isn't in the best health and getting up there in age statistically for a black man.

There's also the fact that historically speaking, the Supreme Court has actually reflected public opinion pretty well. The courts have been more restrained when public opinion is firmly against something. Some of that is fear of nonimplementation, but also the threat that new legislation will be implemented. So say the Supreme Court decided to make abortion a state issue. The backlash would be significant. Yes that has significant impact short term in many states, but it would prompt more people to vote and push for legalization. Not ideal, not a permanent position either.

Then there's the less rosy outlook where Ginsberg or Breyer retire. That would be worse, but I don't think either would step down under a Trump presidency. And I'm pretty sure Ginsberg would smack death in the face. Sure she's 85, but it's a badass 85.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Message auto-removed