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Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:12 PM

Why there is NO WAY to Defend Kavanaugh's Demeanor

The claim is being made that Kavanaugh's belligerent and interrupting demeanor is "understandable" given the seriousness of the allegations and what he and his family are being "dragged through." This defense is absolutely unacceptable.

EVERY litigant, judge, lawyer, witness, Senate confirmee, and congressional witness, and yes even a defendant and a death penalty defendant, is required to comport themselves in a dignified, respectful and honest manner.

The seriousness of the charge is irrelevant, and if anything the seriousness of an allegation increases the demamds for proper temperament.

Kavanaugh disqualified himself simply by being disrespectful. Even if he hadn't been partisan, he disqualified himself, but his disrespectful belligerence falls below minimum standards for anyone in a courtroom or congressional process.

Indeed, the women who interrupted, got emotional and spoke their passionate opinions in earlier Kavanaugh hearings were ARRESTED and removed from the room, a fate they fully expected.

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Reply Why there is NO WAY to Defend Kavanaugh's Demeanor (Original post)
Land Shark Oct 2018 OP
wcmagumba Oct 2018 #1
olegramps Oct 2018 #45
dlk Oct 2018 #2
Land Shark Oct 2018 #26
Siwsan Oct 2018 #3
Land Shark Oct 2018 #5
lunatica Oct 2018 #14
maddiemom Oct 2018 #21
Land Shark Oct 2018 #23
TwistOneUp Oct 2018 #4
malaise Oct 2018 #7
Land Shark Oct 2018 #36
Lugnut Oct 2018 #38
Land Shark Oct 2018 #41
malaise Oct 2018 #6
Land Shark Oct 2018 #24
BigmanPigman Oct 2018 #8
Baitball Blogger Oct 2018 #9
Land Shark Oct 2018 #10
lame54 Oct 2018 #11
Land Shark Oct 2018 #12
Johonny Oct 2018 #48
DFW Oct 2018 #13
Land Shark Oct 2018 #16
calimary Oct 2018 #27
DFW Oct 2018 #35
Land Shark Oct 2018 #42
DFW Oct 2018 #46
Land Shark Oct 2018 #50
LibDemAlways Oct 2018 #15
Land Shark Oct 2018 #17
Dave Starsky Oct 2018 #25
LibDemAlways Oct 2018 #30
Land Shark Oct 2018 #34
Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2018 #39
Land Shark Oct 2018 #47
issuesDemocrats Oct 2018 #18
calimary Oct 2018 #28
BootinUp Oct 2018 #19
Land Shark Oct 2018 #20
KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2018 #22
pretzel4gore Oct 2018 #29
Land Shark Oct 2018 #31
JI7 Oct 2018 #32
Land Shark Oct 2018 #33
hunter Oct 2018 #37
marlakay Oct 2018 #40
world wide wally Oct 2018 #43
Land Shark Oct 2018 #44
Nitram Oct 2018 #49

Response to Land Shark (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:15 PM

1. I agree...

saw the interview flake did earlier and he made that absurd talking point about kav...that he (flake) would
likely responded just like kav did facing those kind of accusations...what an effing farce...

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Response to wcmagumba (Reply #1)

Tue Oct 2, 2018, 01:23 PM

45. SNL owns him. Now and for the rest of his life. The greatest weapon is humor.

They made mincemeat out of him. I feel sorry for his kids and wife. He has been proven to be a sham, an imposture and hopeless wreak of a human being. His pose as a virgin choir boy without blemish has been exposed as a fašade. He alone is responsible for his own undoing and the object of ridicule and derisive laughter.

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Response to Land Shark (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:15 PM

2. Kavanaugh's Emotional Meltdown Was Ridiculous!

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Response to dlk (Reply #2)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 06:48 PM

26. That ALONE was disqualifying, regardless of FBI investigation

... which FBI "comprehensive" investigation was, in the best case scenario, cut in half time-wise if we assume the FBI truly has a hands off investigation task for the few days left....

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Response to Land Shark (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:16 PM

3. He showed himself for who and what he really is

An angry, prevaricating bully with delusions of entitlement. Might explain the look on his wife's face, during his meltdown. She's seen it - lived it.

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Response to Siwsan (Reply #3)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:18 PM

5. I bet you are right on there! nt

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Response to Siwsan (Reply #3)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 04:04 PM

14. There was no shock or surprise in her face at his crazed ranting. She's heard it before

I also think she was resigned to what he was going to do. And there was no indignation in her face. She looked defeated.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #14)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 05:48 PM

21. Didn't anyone else notice that she often looked downward during many of his rants...

and seemed to be smiling or grimacing? She'd then look back upward with her face totally wiped of expression. It seemed to me that she did this fairly often.

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Response to maddiemom (Reply #21)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 06:15 PM

23. That's one way of gathering oneself together when the behavioral

goal is different from the emotion

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Response to Land Shark (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:17 PM

4. The interviews for the SC

Are very much like a job interview. When asked if they have ever passed out from drinking, if the applicant replies "Do You? Have you?", then the applicant FAILS the interview and does NOT get da job.

Why is this not being discussed? A blatant attempt to duck a question, and a completely unacceptable response.

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Response to TwistOneUp (Reply #4)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:23 PM

7. That simple

That alone is enough- I would have chased his ass out of the room.

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Response to malaise (Reply #7)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 11:42 PM

36. No admonitions to the witness by Chair Grassley? Nt

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Response to TwistOneUp (Reply #4)

Tue Oct 2, 2018, 01:30 AM

38. That was disqualifying all by itself.

I was shocked to hear him attack Sen Klobuchar. Totally uncalled for and disrespectful.

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Response to Lugnut (Reply #38)

Tue Oct 2, 2018, 11:03 AM

41. Exactly.

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Response to Land Shark (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:22 PM

6. I hope you noticed that Don the Con said

that was why he picked him. Respect, decency and decorum be damned.

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Response to malaise (Reply #6)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 06:31 PM

24. **Conduct Unbecoming** of an Officer of any Court. nt

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Response to Land Shark (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:26 PM

8. Any other person who was that arrogant and disrespectful would have been shown the door

immediately at a job interview, any job interview.

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Response to Land Shark (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:30 PM

9. Oh, dear. They're resorting to the "You made him do it" defense.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #9)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:41 PM

10. Yep. But that doesn't work in legal or legislative processes.

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Response to Land Shark (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:49 PM

11. a defendant that did that in a Kavanaugh court...

would be held in contempt

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Response to lame54 (Reply #11)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:54 PM

12. Bingo!

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Response to lame54 (Reply #11)

Tue Oct 2, 2018, 06:19 PM

48. or at least be made to go out and buy Brett a case of beer.

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Response to Land Shark (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:57 PM

13. Kavanawful's performance was even worse than Nixon's "Checkers" speech

And Republicans found him "credible."

I guess that's why they don't vote at the Oscars.

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Response to DFW (Reply #13)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 04:08 PM

16. Given his blackouts and need to cover up, it was exceptionally revealing

Indeed, he clearly puts those on his side including himself in an impossibly positive light while demeaning and disparaging all those on the other side. In an important way, that is an exceptionally honest illustration of what he would do on the Supreme Court.

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Response to DFW (Reply #13)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 06:53 PM

27. Hey! I like that, DFW! "Kavanawful"! Did you make that up?

Sure fits that bastard!

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Response to calimary (Reply #27)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 10:32 PM

35. My little contribution to the vernacular

Someone else came up with "Kavanaughty," but I thought that didn't really convey my true sentiments.

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Response to DFW (Reply #35)

Tue Oct 2, 2018, 12:31 PM

42. Kavanawful - deserves its own thread also

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Response to Land Shark (Reply #42)

Tue Oct 2, 2018, 05:19 PM

46. I've been starting to see it used around

I've been using it since the guy's name (and background) came into the public light. Whether or not it really started with me, or whether it's a grand case of "Great Minds Think Alike," doesn't really matter, as long as the guy gets referred to as that by an ever increasing number of people.

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Response to DFW (Reply #46)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 01:01 PM

50. Agreed. Nt

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Response to Land Shark (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 04:07 PM

15. All you have to do is ask yourself if it was

you asking questions of a candidate at a job interview, would you hire someone who alternately cried, yelled, made unfounded paranoid comments, spoke repeatedly about liking beer, refused to answer questions, and turned questions back on you? The answer is obviously no.

I fully maintain that Kavanaugh could have shown the entire panel his middle finger, yelled "fuck you all," then grabbed and raped a woman then and there.....and the Repukes on the panel would still vote to confirm him with the explanation that the Democrats made him do it.

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Response to LibDemAlways (Reply #15)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 04:36 PM

17. They would.... so long as they hadn't lost the majority

But if they knew they didn't have the votes their reaction would be a little different, and they would call it "unfortunate" that the judge "disrobed" without first getting a lockable bedroom.

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Response to LibDemAlways (Reply #15)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 06:39 PM

25. He would have failed instantly at any job interview.

He was clearly drunk at the time. No one would have ever hired him. He is a loser in denial.

But If he admitted his problem, told the panel (and the US) what was going on at the time, they might have given him a second chance.

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Response to Dave Starsky (Reply #25)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 07:46 PM

30. I am in total agreement that he was drunk. I don't

think he could even think about coming before the judiciary committee under those circumstances unless he'd had a few. I was so disappointed no Democrat asked him when he'd had his last drink. He would have lied, but millions of eyes would have been instantly opened as to what was going on.

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Response to LibDemAlways (Reply #30)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 09:37 PM

34. Or even.if.not drunk, it takes no effort to imagone that after Thursday. Nt

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Response to LibDemAlways (Reply #15)

Tue Oct 2, 2018, 02:14 AM

39. ignore his histrionics

Even if you ignore his histrionics (histrionic personality disorder?) and simply read a plain text transcript, you still wouldn't hire that beer junky!

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #39)

Tue Oct 2, 2018, 06:16 PM

47. +1

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Response to Land Shark (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 04:38 PM

18. The guy is guilty as sin.

 

There's no defending him, period.

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Response to issuesDemocrats (Reply #18)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 06:54 PM

28. Welcome to DU, issuesDemocrats!

Sure looks that way to me, gotta say. He's not acting like an innocent man.

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Response to Land Shark (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 04:51 PM

19. It appears you rely on logic to make this point. Nt

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Response to BootinUp (Reply #19)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 05:18 PM

20. That may be a disadvantage in some circles, but not here. nt.

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Response to Land Shark (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 06:10 PM

22. Cool rhetoric and shade-throwing of Karl Rove with tRump's bullshit and demeanor.

I should also say Steven Miller's bullshit, too.

Add a shot of Jack in the cloakroom beforehand and that sums it up.....

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Response to Land Shark (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 07:10 PM

29. Kav, Trump, karlrove, santorum limbah-humbug etc

 

Ad nazism.....there are so many of these evil stooges in usa ruling class maybe they're atypical. ...maybe they tell us our society is bankrupt, is in fact the enemy of hope life and decency. Maybe the death of humanity is actually a good thing if ridding the halls of power of them just too big a task(? )

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Response to pretzel4gore (Reply #29)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 07:57 PM

31. This is an opportunity to uphold humanity and decency, also. Nt

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Response to Land Shark (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 08:00 PM

32. the same people defending him are the ones that support things like stop and frisk

for black and brown males including those who are underage.

they are the ones who are always demanding black people behave certain ways even when falsely accused of things.


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Response to JI7 (Reply #32)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 08:53 PM

33. True

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Response to Land Shark (Original post)

Tue Oct 2, 2018, 12:28 AM

37. I'd expect more of a thirteen year old.

Kavanaugh's demeanor is way out in the land of

It seems all that's left of the Republican Party is privileged white boys (and a few rare want-to-be privileged white boys), bullies especially, who rejected any and every opportunity they ever had to become grown up responsible adults.







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Response to Land Shark (Original post)

Tue Oct 2, 2018, 02:21 AM

40. So many things to choose from

But when he questioned the two dem senators about their drinking, I thought obviously he thinks his employers for this job interview are the republicans only because no way would anyone behave like that questioning their boss in a rude obnoxious way and still expect to get the job.



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Response to Land Shark (Original post)

Tue Oct 2, 2018, 01:00 PM

43. This is just another farce that America is willing to endure to benefit its cartoon king

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Response to world wide wally (Reply #43)

Tue Oct 2, 2018, 01:11 PM

44. Don't think the cartoon king has that level of support, actually. But ok. :)

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Response to Land Shark (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 09:29 AM

49. The R$publican attempt to portray Kavanaugh as a victim is beyond the pale.

They have absolutely no decency. Kavanaugh's behavior was clearly disqualifying for a seat on ANY court. Rudely and angrily throwing questions back at the Democratic Senators? That would ruled Contempt of Court in any court in the land. I repeat. R$publicans have absolutely no decency.

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