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Land Shark

(6,346 posts)
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:12 PM Oct 2018

Why there is NO WAY to Defend Kavanaugh's Demeanor

The claim is being made that Kavanaugh's belligerent and interrupting demeanor is "understandable" given the seriousness of the allegations and what he and his family are being "dragged through." This defense is absolutely unacceptable.

EVERY litigant, judge, lawyer, witness, Senate confirmee, and congressional witness, and yes even a defendant and a death penalty defendant, is required to comport themselves in a dignified, respectful and honest manner.

The seriousness of the charge is irrelevant, and if anything the seriousness of an allegation increases the demamds for proper temperament.

Kavanaugh disqualified himself simply by being disrespectful. Even if he hadn't been partisan, he disqualified himself, but his disrespectful belligerence falls below minimum standards for anyone in a courtroom or congressional process.

Indeed, the women who interrupted, got emotional and spoke their passionate opinions in earlier Kavanaugh hearings were ARRESTED and removed from the room, a fate they fully expected.

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Why there is NO WAY to Defend Kavanaugh's Demeanor (Original Post) Land Shark Oct 2018 OP
I agree... wcmagumba Oct 2018 #1
SNL owns him. Now and for the rest of his life. The greatest weapon is humor. olegramps Oct 2018 #45
Kavanaugh's Emotional Meltdown Was Ridiculous! dlk Oct 2018 #2
That ALONE was disqualifying, regardless of FBI investigation Land Shark Oct 2018 #26
He showed himself for who and what he really is Siwsan Oct 2018 #3
I bet you are right on there! nt Land Shark Oct 2018 #5
There was no shock or surprise in her face at his crazed ranting. She's heard it before lunatica Oct 2018 #14
Didn't anyone else notice that she often looked downward during many of his rants... maddiemom Oct 2018 #21
That's one way of gathering oneself together when the behavioral Land Shark Oct 2018 #23
The interviews for the SC TwistOneUp Oct 2018 #4
That simple malaise Oct 2018 #7
No admonitions to the witness by Chair Grassley? Nt Land Shark Oct 2018 #36
That was disqualifying all by itself. Lugnut Oct 2018 #38
Exactly. Land Shark Oct 2018 #41
I hope you noticed that Don the Con said malaise Oct 2018 #6
**Conduct Unbecoming** of an Officer of any Court. nt Land Shark Oct 2018 #24
Any other person who was that arrogant and disrespectful would have been shown the door BigmanPigman Oct 2018 #8
Oh, dear. They're resorting to the "You made him do it" defense. Baitball Blogger Oct 2018 #9
Yep. But that doesn't work in legal or legislative processes. Land Shark Oct 2018 #10
a defendant that did that in a Kavanaugh court... lame54 Oct 2018 #11
Bingo! Land Shark Oct 2018 #12
or at least be made to go out and buy Brett a case of beer. Johonny Oct 2018 #48
Kavanawful's performance was even worse than Nixon's "Checkers" speech DFW Oct 2018 #13
Given his blackouts and need to cover up, it was exceptionally revealing Land Shark Oct 2018 #16
Hey! I like that, DFW! "Kavanawful"! Did you make that up? calimary Oct 2018 #27
My little contribution to the vernacular DFW Oct 2018 #35
Kavanawful - deserves its own thread also Land Shark Oct 2018 #42
I've been starting to see it used around DFW Oct 2018 #46
Agreed. Nt Land Shark Oct 2018 #50
All you have to do is ask yourself if it was LibDemAlways Oct 2018 #15
They would.... so long as they hadn't lost the majority Land Shark Oct 2018 #17
He would have failed instantly at any job interview. Dave Starsky Oct 2018 #25
I am in total agreement that he was drunk. I don't LibDemAlways Oct 2018 #30
Or even.if.not drunk, it takes no effort to imagone that after Thursday. Nt Land Shark Oct 2018 #34
ignore his histrionics Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2018 #39
+1 Land Shark Oct 2018 #47
The guy is guilty as sin. issuesDemocrats Oct 2018 #18
Welcome to DU, issuesDemocrats! calimary Oct 2018 #28
It appears you rely on logic to make this point. Nt BootinUp Oct 2018 #19
That may be a disadvantage in some circles, but not here. nt. Land Shark Oct 2018 #20
Cool rhetoric and shade-throwing of Karl Rove with tRump's bullshit and demeanor. KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2018 #22
Kav, Trump, karlrove, santorum limbah-humbug etc pretzel4gore Oct 2018 #29
This is an opportunity to uphold humanity and decency, also. Nt Land Shark Oct 2018 #31
the same people defending him are the ones that support things like stop and frisk JI7 Oct 2018 #32
True Land Shark Oct 2018 #33
I'd expect more of a thirteen year old. hunter Oct 2018 #37
So many things to choose from marlakay Oct 2018 #40
This is just another farce that America is willing to endure to benefit its cartoon king world wide wally Oct 2018 #43
Don't think the cartoon king has that level of support, actually. But ok. :) Land Shark Oct 2018 #44
The R$publican attempt to portray Kavanaugh as a victim is beyond the pale. Nitram Oct 2018 #49

wcmagumba

(2,886 posts)
1. I agree...
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:15 PM
Oct 2018

saw the interview flake did earlier and he made that absurd talking point about kav...that he (flake) would
likely responded just like kav did facing those kind of accusations...what an effing farce...

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
45. SNL owns him. Now and for the rest of his life. The greatest weapon is humor.
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 01:23 PM
Oct 2018

They made mincemeat out of him. I feel sorry for his kids and wife. He has been proven to be a sham, an imposture and hopeless wreak of a human being. His pose as a virgin choir boy without blemish has been exposed as a façade. He alone is responsible for his own undoing and the object of ridicule and derisive laughter.

Land Shark

(6,346 posts)
26. That ALONE was disqualifying, regardless of FBI investigation
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 06:48 PM
Oct 2018

... which FBI "comprehensive" investigation was, in the best case scenario, cut in half time-wise if we assume the FBI truly has a hands off investigation task for the few days left....

Siwsan

(26,260 posts)
3. He showed himself for who and what he really is
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:16 PM
Oct 2018

An angry, prevaricating bully with delusions of entitlement. Might explain the look on his wife's face, during his meltdown. She's seen it - lived it.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
14. There was no shock or surprise in her face at his crazed ranting. She's heard it before
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 04:04 PM
Oct 2018

I also think she was resigned to what he was going to do. And there was no indignation in her face. She looked defeated.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
21. Didn't anyone else notice that she often looked downward during many of his rants...
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 05:48 PM
Oct 2018

and seemed to be smiling or grimacing? She'd then look back upward with her face totally wiped of expression. It seemed to me that she did this fairly often.

TwistOneUp

(1,020 posts)
4. The interviews for the SC
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:17 PM
Oct 2018

Are very much like a job interview. When asked if they have ever passed out from drinking, if the applicant replies "Do You? Have you?", then the applicant FAILS the interview and does NOT get da job.

Why is this not being discussed? A blatant attempt to duck a question, and a completely unacceptable response.

Lugnut

(9,791 posts)
38. That was disqualifying all by itself.
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 01:30 AM
Oct 2018

I was shocked to hear him attack Sen Klobuchar. Totally uncalled for and disrespectful.

malaise

(268,949 posts)
6. I hope you noticed that Don the Con said
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:22 PM
Oct 2018

that was why he picked him. Respect, decency and decorum be damned.

BigmanPigman

(51,585 posts)
8. Any other person who was that arrogant and disrespectful would have been shown the door
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:26 PM
Oct 2018

immediately at a job interview, any job interview.

DFW

(54,360 posts)
13. Kavanawful's performance was even worse than Nixon's "Checkers" speech
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:57 PM
Oct 2018

And Republicans found him "credible."

I guess that's why they don't vote at the Oscars.

Land Shark

(6,346 posts)
16. Given his blackouts and need to cover up, it was exceptionally revealing
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 04:08 PM
Oct 2018

Indeed, he clearly puts those on his side including himself in an impossibly positive light while demeaning and disparaging all those on the other side. In an important way, that is an exceptionally honest illustration of what he would do on the Supreme Court.

DFW

(54,360 posts)
35. My little contribution to the vernacular
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 10:32 PM
Oct 2018

Someone else came up with "Kavanaughty," but I thought that didn't really convey my true sentiments.

DFW

(54,360 posts)
46. I've been starting to see it used around
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 05:19 PM
Oct 2018

I've been using it since the guy's name (and background) came into the public light. Whether or not it really started with me, or whether it's a grand case of "Great Minds Think Alike," doesn't really matter, as long as the guy gets referred to as that by an ever increasing number of people.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
15. All you have to do is ask yourself if it was
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 04:07 PM
Oct 2018

you asking questions of a candidate at a job interview, would you hire someone who alternately cried, yelled, made unfounded paranoid comments, spoke repeatedly about liking beer, refused to answer questions, and turned questions back on you? The answer is obviously no.

I fully maintain that Kavanaugh could have shown the entire panel his middle finger, yelled "fuck you all," then grabbed and raped a woman then and there.....and the Repukes on the panel would still vote to confirm him with the explanation that the Democrats made him do it.

Land Shark

(6,346 posts)
17. They would.... so long as they hadn't lost the majority
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 04:36 PM
Oct 2018

But if they knew they didn't have the votes their reaction would be a little different, and they would call it "unfortunate" that the judge "disrobed" without first getting a lockable bedroom.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
25. He would have failed instantly at any job interview.
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 06:39 PM
Oct 2018

He was clearly drunk at the time. No one would have ever hired him. He is a loser in denial.

But If he admitted his problem, told the panel (and the US) what was going on at the time, they might have given him a second chance.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
30. I am in total agreement that he was drunk. I don't
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 07:46 PM
Oct 2018

think he could even think about coming before the judiciary committee under those circumstances unless he'd had a few. I was so disappointed no Democrat asked him when he'd had his last drink. He would have lied, but millions of eyes would have been instantly opened as to what was going on.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,328 posts)
39. ignore his histrionics
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 02:14 AM
Oct 2018

Even if you ignore his histrionics (histrionic personality disorder?) and simply read a plain text transcript, you still wouldn't hire that beer junky!

calimary

(81,220 posts)
28. Welcome to DU, issuesDemocrats!
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 06:54 PM
Oct 2018

Sure looks that way to me, gotta say. He's not acting like an innocent man.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,490 posts)
22. Cool rhetoric and shade-throwing of Karl Rove with tRump's bullshit and demeanor.
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 06:10 PM
Oct 2018

I should also say Steven Miller's bullshit, too.

Add a shot of Jack in the cloakroom beforehand and that sums it up.....

 

pretzel4gore

(8,146 posts)
29. Kav, Trump, karlrove, santorum limbah-humbug etc
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 07:10 PM
Oct 2018

Ad nazism.....there are so many of these evil stooges in usa ruling class maybe they're atypical. ...maybe they tell us our society is bankrupt, is in fact the enemy of hope life and decency. Maybe the death of humanity is actually a good thing if ridding the halls of power of them just too big a task(? )

JI7

(89,247 posts)
32. the same people defending him are the ones that support things like stop and frisk
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 08:00 PM
Oct 2018

for black and brown males including those who are underage.

they are the ones who are always demanding black people behave certain ways even when falsely accused of things.


hunter

(38,311 posts)
37. I'd expect more of a thirteen year old.
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 12:28 AM
Oct 2018

Kavanaugh's demeanor is way out in the land of

It seems all that's left of the Republican Party is privileged white boys (and a few rare want-to-be privileged white boys), bullies especially, who rejected any and every opportunity they ever had to become grown up responsible adults.







marlakay

(11,451 posts)
40. So many things to choose from
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 02:21 AM
Oct 2018

But when he questioned the two dem senators about their drinking, I thought obviously he thinks his employers for this job interview are the republicans only because no way would anyone behave like that questioning their boss in a rude obnoxious way and still expect to get the job.



Nitram

(22,791 posts)
49. The R$publican attempt to portray Kavanaugh as a victim is beyond the pale.
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 09:29 AM
Oct 2018

They have absolutely no decency. Kavanaugh's behavior was clearly disqualifying for a seat on ANY court. Rudely and angrily throwing questions back at the Democratic Senators? That would ruled Contempt of Court in any court in the land. I repeat. R$publicans have absolutely no decency.

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