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The United States is going to have a practicing alcoholic on the Supreme Court. (Original Post) onecaliberal Oct 2018 OP
At some point, you've got to wonder what Roberts is thinking. And if he's sent any signals. n/t CincyDem Oct 2018 #1
What is their usual schedule? greymattermom Oct 2018 #2
Fun fact. SCOTUS has no code of conduct or ethics. Why? No idea. No other fed Court without one! Fred Sanders Oct 2018 #29
Wow, that is surprising. onecaliberal Oct 2018 #34
The term is "active alcoholic" not "practicing alcoholic" DonViejo Oct 2018 #3
I have 27 years, thanks onecaliberal Oct 2018 #4
I have 42 years, thanks... DonViejo Oct 2018 #10
Good for you! onecaliberal Oct 2018 #13
Maybe it's a regional terminology, like many words are. n/t pnwmom Oct 2018 #25
"Practicing" makes me think they have to keep doing it until they get it right rurallib Oct 2018 #31
I'm sure they likely SoCalNative Oct 2018 #5
I think we would hear about it and if we haven't, something tells me we will now. onecaliberal Oct 2018 #7
I have a good friend who is a recovering alcoholic. Initech Oct 2018 #6
It's not a job he should get to have. onecaliberal Oct 2018 #9
I am a family member, I grew up with one. redstatebluegirl Oct 2018 #8
I'm Pretty Sure RobinA Oct 2018 #11
Is there any proof that Kavanaugh is a practicing alcoholic? elocs Oct 2018 #12
He likes beer - he still likes beer - What beer do you like? lame54 Oct 2018 #15
And this is considered a good thing shanti Oct 2018 #23
It doesn't seem to be a secret. Folks are coming forward to talk about him. onecaliberal Oct 2018 #16
They're not talking about his excessive drinking now elocs Oct 2018 #24
There is another allegation about him shoving a woman against a wall in a sexual manner that onecaliberal Oct 2018 #35
And this points to alcoholism elocs Oct 2018 #37
Really? Have you not been paying attention. onecaliberal Oct 2018 #40
The ABA says about 1 in 5 lawyers is a problem drinker -- about twice the national rate. pnwmom Oct 2018 #26
I'm sure he's seasoned by now lame54 Oct 2018 #14
Only if Kavanawful is confirmed DFW Oct 2018 #17
We will see what happens on Friday. onecaliberal Oct 2018 #18
When did you give up? PubliusEnigma Oct 2018 #19
Why not? The U.S. already has a "dry drunk" in the WH. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Oct 2018 #20
...and 2 sexual predators. roamer65 Oct 2018 #21
and some very partisan members rurallib Oct 2018 #32
He is beyond practicing he is pro grantcart Oct 2018 #22
Who has said what goes around comes around so no democrat or liberal will Eliot Rosewater Oct 2018 #27
Kavanaugh's on a greased slide to "wet brain". Sugar Smack Oct 2018 #28
Agree with your comments, but suspect Kav would not be the only alcoholic on the Court. Hoyt Oct 2018 #30
MADJ enid602 Oct 2018 #33
Hear, hear onecaliberal Oct 2018 #36
I don't think that's nearly as big of a problem as... jcgoldie Oct 2018 #38
Thank Gosh he doesn't drink hard liquor! moondust Oct 2018 #39
and a rapist.............. Takket Oct 2018 #41

greymattermom

(5,751 posts)
2. What is their usual schedule?
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:20 PM
Oct 2018

Do they work after 5 pm? He won't be able to do it, right? Is there a penalty for being drunk on the job at the Supreme Court? Maybe rules that apply to all federal judges?

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
10. I have 42 years, thanks...
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:31 PM
Oct 2018

And I've worked as a counselor in detox and a half-way house; we refer to it as active.

rurallib

(62,373 posts)
31. "Practicing" makes me think they have to keep doing it until they get it right
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 06:13 PM
Oct 2018

The thought kind of amused me, sorry.

Initech

(100,029 posts)
6. I have a good friend who is a recovering alcoholic.
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:27 PM
Oct 2018

He has been in and out of rehab multiple times (and possibly a fourth). And hasn't been able to get a job in several years because of it. It's definitely a disease and there's no easy fix for it. But to confirm Kavanaugh after all this would definitely be an insult to addicts.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
8. I am a family member, I grew up with one.
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:28 PM
Oct 2018

Nothing I repeat NOTHING would convince me that this was a good idea.

elocs

(22,540 posts)
12. Is there any proof that Kavanaugh is a practicing alcoholic?
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:54 PM
Oct 2018

If he is you would think that it would be one of the most poorly kept secrets in Washington.

elocs

(22,540 posts)
24. They're not talking about his excessive drinking now
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 05:38 PM
Oct 2018

but back in high school. Just liking beer does not make someone an alcoholic.

onecaliberal

(32,775 posts)
35. There is another allegation about him shoving a woman against a wall in a sexual manner that
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 08:44 PM
Oct 2018

Last edited Tue Oct 2, 2018, 12:38 AM - Edit history (1)

Did not happen in high school.

pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
26. The ABA says about 1 in 5 lawyers is a problem drinker -- about twice the national rate.
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 05:44 PM
Oct 2018

And given what he know about his history, and how he behaved in the hearing (as if he'd had a few), and how often he snarled and said he LIKED beer, why should we think he isn't among the 20%?

DFW

(54,269 posts)
17. Only if Kavanawful is confirmed
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 04:01 PM
Oct 2018

I refuse to accept that as a done deal. Indeed, the longer the vote is postponed, the better the chances are that the nomination will find a way to be withdrawn. The only reason he hasn't been confirmed yet is that enough sitting Republicans have let McTurtle know they can't go through with voting yes. If McTurtle had 50 solid votes for confirmation, the discussion would already be over and the vote held.

20. Why not? The U.S. already has a "dry drunk" in the WH.
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 05:14 PM
Oct 2018

Here are some characteristics of a dry drunk:

Grandiosity/Superiority – A dry drunk is self-centered.

A constant need to be the center of attention.

Acting better or smarter than everyone else around them.

Playing the “victim.”

Believing that they are so unique that no one could possibly ever relate to them.

Impulsivity– Again, in much the same way as during active addiction, the dry drunk is unable to delay gratification. They want what they want when they want it, regardless of the consequences.

Judgmental –Believing that they are superior, dry drunks will see everything and everyone around them as polar opposites – “Black or White” or “good or bad”, with emphasis on negativity.

Intolerance –Related to superiority, dry drunks refuse to hear opinions or suggestions from anyone else. In their minds, they ALWAYS know best.

Isolation –Dry drunks look for and magnify differences between themselves and those around them. This “separation mentality” can leave the individual without a strong support system.

Boredom/Dissatisfaction – After the initial “rush” of newly-rediscovered sobriety, a person can get bored when they settle into a routine. When their sober life isn’t instantly perfect, they may even start to wonder why they got sober in the first place.

Nostalgia –A dry drunk starts reminiscing – inaccurately – about the “fun” that they used to have – freedom, drinking/drug buddies, lack of responsibilities, etc.

Mood Swings– As all of these symptoms start to come together, the dry drunk can start to become emotionally listless and aloof – as if nothing matters to them or makes a difference. Alternately, they can overreact and blow up with very little provocation.

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Donnie Two Scoops doesn't need to be in the WH, he needs to be in a Twelve Step program.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
27. Who has said what goes around comes around so no democrat or liberal will
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 05:46 PM
Oct 2018

ever bother going before the court now

Sugar Smack

(18,748 posts)
28. Kavanaugh's on a greased slide to "wet brain".
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 05:52 PM
Oct 2018

The only thing that woke him up after drinking that day was probably doing coke. We were all watching his nose.

Hearing his explosive, hostile interruptions.

Also, those facial expressions he was making (after drinking- related questions) were disturbing. It was as if he was saying, "YEAH, GOTCHA". That stuck me as really regressive behavior.

moondust

(19,956 posts)
39. Thank Gosh he doesn't drink hard liquor!
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 11:05 PM
Oct 2018

Just beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer. Fun-loving beer!

I repeat--no hard liquor. He didn't say a word about hard liquor. Hard liquor is the stuff that makes you go crazy, assault women, puke, pass out next to the toilet, and wake up unable to recall where you went or how you got there. No hard liquor.

Just beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer. Fun-loving beer!

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