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NanceGreggs

(27,817 posts)
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 01:39 AM Oct 2018

Keep it up, peeps!

While the Kavanaugh matter is being investigated by the FBI, the Republicans are no doubt “investigating” whether the nominee is more of a liability to themselves and their party than they’d originally thought.

GOPers are being bombarded with phone calls, emails, protestors – and the message being conveyed is not ”We (Heart) Brett!”

Polls are showing that the vast majority of those surveyed are against Kavanaugh’s confirmation.

Let’s remember that the Republicans have had to wrap their heads around all kinds of never-saw-THAT-comin’ shit in the past few days: the fact that Christine Ford’s testimony was as credible as it was, new accusers coming forward, how many people watched the hearing last Thursday, the thousands of women who have come forward with their own stories – and how much sympathy those stories are garnering, and how much solidarity is being triggered among the populace behind the women who are telling their truths.

The Kavanaugh who the Republicans were prepared to “plow through” two weeks ago is a different Kavanaugh than the public has now seen. Just as they didn’t expect Christine Ford to be as credible as she was, they also didn’t expect Kavanaugh to be as unhinged as he was. These are new developments that the GOP now has to deal with – developments they never anticipated.

So keep those cards and letters comin’, folks. Call your reps, email them, and voice your opinion. The more negative reaction to Kavanaugh the Republicans hear, the more likely they are to look for a way to get rid of him.

I don’t think they’d go to a vote and vote against him – bad optics for the party. But they could convince Trump to withdraw the nomination, or convince Kavanaugh to withdraw rather than face the humiliation of being voted down by his own party members.

After they jettison the bodies, the Republicans can make up whatever story they want to explain to their "base" why things just didn’t work out for good ol’ Brett.

In other words, the fat lady has yet to sing.

I may sound overly optimistic. It’s just that I am confident that given the negative impact of Kavanaugh’s confirmation just weeks before the midterms, a lot of PTB in the GOP are re-assessing their ability to “plow ‘im through” without a devastating political backlash.

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Keep it up, peeps! (Original Post) NanceGreggs Oct 2018 OP
let there be consequences and repercussions Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2018 #1
K&R 2naSalit Oct 2018 #2
Yes. So say we all! Silver Gaia Oct 2018 #3
PHYSICALLY GO TO AN FBI FIELD OFFICE AND INSIST ON REPORTING IF YOU HAVE INFORMATION ON KAV. SuprstitionAintthWay Oct 2018 #4
Even though LittleGirl Oct 2018 #5
If the Fbi is still stonewalled........ dem in texas Oct 2018 #6
thanks for the encouragement jcsg Oct 2018 #7
Great post Nance Gothmog Oct 2018 #8
The long game is to seat a Federalist Society Supreme Court. peekaloo Oct 2018 #9
All of them I would think. OliverQ Oct 2018 #10
K&R bdamomma Oct 2018 #11
4. PHYSICALLY GO TO AN FBI FIELD OFFICE AND INSIST ON REPORTING IF YOU HAVE INFORMATION ON KAV.
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 03:17 AM
Oct 2018

I sent the below to Greg Sargent at the Post, Gail Collins at the Times, Rachel's show, and CNN. Trump is playing word games and lying about the latitude the FBI has while he runs out the clock on his sham investigation. I wrote the below before his supposed relaxing of the restrictions Monday, but my opinion hasn't changed. I notice we still haven't seen either set of Trump's orders to the FBI. Until we do, assume Trump's lying and the background investigation is still on a severely tight leash. WaPo says the restrictions are slightly less than they were, but they don't know how or how much. And what they were was a farce: 4 people, 3 of whom were already on record as remembering nothing, and the 4th already on record as denying everything. 


I'd rather this be a new thread but I just re-joined (after a decade) and can't make it a thread yet. If someone else will copy and paste it into its own thread, please do. 

If McConnell holds a vote Friday, then 3 of the 6 days the FBI has are already gone. Witnesses against Kavanaugh need to force their statements into this outrageous "process." This is how. 


Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 6:32 PM 
To: rachel@msnbc.com 
Subject: Fw: Publicize a way to get Kav reports into FBI records anyway 


Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 6:01 PM 
To: sargentg@washpost.com 
Subject: Publicize a way to get Kav reports into FBI records anyway 


Hi Greg: 

I think this workaround will work; check with your Bureau sources about whether it will. 

Do your best to get the word out, FAST, that if you have relevant info on Kavanaugh or Mark Judge, to not call the FBI and wait for a call back, because that's probably been specifically prohibited by McCabe and Trump until the 7 days are up. 

Tell people to instead PHYSICALLY GO TO AN FBI OFFICE, tell them you're there to REPORT A FEDERAL CRIME, and then sit in their damn lobby and refuse to leave until a SPECIAL AGENT TAKES YOUR REPORT. 

INSIST you want to report the crime RIGHT THERE AND THEN, and don't let them put you off. Because they probably will if you let them, Christopher Wray is almost surely under presidential orders to essentially run out the clock on this background investigation (BI) extension. 

Thursday Sep. 27, 2018 Brett Kavanaugh committed maybe 100 federal crimes. He lied under oath to Congress about that many times, and everybody witnessed it. Whichever lie he told that a person has specific knowledge is false, is the federal crime to report there in the FBI field office. 

And again, you must INSIST on reporting what you know to be a federal crime, based on whatever information you have that is contrary to his lie. Be prepared for the field office agents to try to not take the report, by saying it falls under a BI that a special team of agents is doing and you'd need to report it directly to them. Well, that special BI team of agents are not going to talk to you until after Friday, if then.  

So INSIST. There has been a federal crime committed, and you insist on reporting what you know about it, right then and there. 

Stay until you do. 

Ask for a photocopy of the statement you sign. 

Take the special agent's name. I believe they're required to submit it within 24 hours of receiving the report. Ask to be emailed and mailed a copy of it. 

When you leave, immediately send all of the particulars to the Democratic senator of your choice. And to the Washington Post, New York Times, New Yorker, CNN, MSNBC, Guardian, and whatever other media of your choice. Probably the FBI will instruct you not to disclose your report to anybody... "ongoing investigation" and all that. I'd do it anyway and take my chances, because to not will probably be to have accomplished nothing. 

If everyone who knows factually about a Kavanaugh lie to Congress does this immediately, we can at least get the reports physically into the FBI somewhere. And Democratic senators, the principled media, and the American public hopefully can successfully demand that the reports be taken into account before a final vote to confirm Kavanaugh.  

I hope this works. We are in a fast-moving constitutional crisis created by a dishonest authoritarian president and his Republican senator co-conspirators. The White House is in the position to make Christopher Wray run out the clock while avoiding any new negative information about Kavanaugh in a sham of a BI. And we need to do everything can to counter this, right NOW. 

Thank you. 

LittleGirl

(8,291 posts)
5. Even though
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 03:26 AM
Oct 2018

I'm in Europe, I watched every minute of the hearings that CNN provided. I went to bed Thursday night at 1:30 (Friday) because I couldn't peel myself away.

On Friday, I watched every bit of the hearings and when Flake finally said, we need to pause, I was on my feet cheering and yelling in victory. I am confident that one week is all we need to change history.

Dr. Ford was very credible but what really swayed me more was Kav's yelling. His anger, his sniveling, his lies and his deceit. He triggered me so much, I was furious. He reminded me of my ex (who abused me) back in the 90s with that same white boy entitlement attitude. I went to Yale!

I even got angry with my niece yesterday because I was begging her to register to vote. She's 33 and has never voted. I said, the reason we have trump is because of all of you 100 million people that didn't vote in 2016. She hates trump and said, they are all crooks, both sides are crooks. That's when I said, no they aren't. Democrats are not the crooks. We get rid of crooks and yet, there is #45 up there spouting his b.s. and those of you that didn't vote gave us this mess. I sent her links to prove my words about the 100 million not voting and hope she reads them. I may have lost her with my anger but this whole mess is really pissing me off.

Vote Blue!

dem in texas

(2,674 posts)
6. If the Fbi is still stonewalled........
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 04:21 AM
Oct 2018

Then let these women hold a press conference and detail what happened to them Like the girl who got a "ride" home from Kav and a friend. These women should lay on the line and the media would take it from there.

peekaloo

(22,977 posts)
9. The long game is to seat a Federalist Society Supreme Court.
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 09:56 AM
Oct 2018

I'm curious to see how many will sacrifice their political careers (be it this year or 2020) as collateral damage for the "party".



 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
10. All of them I would think.
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 09:57 AM
Oct 2018

A radical right-wing SCOTUS judge who will protect them from prosecution is worth losing their seats.

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