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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums***THIS IS AN EMERGENCY*** Don't anyone be lulled by Lawrence O'D's reporting tonight.
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True, the FBI is worried about the Dems being mad at their performance in this investigation, if D's come to power again.
But that does NOT mean they're doing a thorough job.
Rachel said tonight that Ramirez's attorney gave the FBI names of 20 people who could corroborate her story, but none of them have been interviewed. Also, Elizabeth Rasor, Judge's ex-girlfriend, has been unable to get the FBI to respond to her. (Meanwhile, there are multiple reports today of the investigation being wrapped up tonight or tomorrow.)
I'm paraphrasing, but Brian Williams said that he's talked to FBI people tonight who say that there has been only a very limited expansion of the original investigation, and the FBI is being hamstrung by the limits put on them. That they're not being able to follow leads they would normally follow. That they are being forced to turn away witnesses who turn up at FBI offices to give information.
Maya Wiley looked like she was going to cry. Frank Montoya said he hadn't been this upset since he'd handled a murder investigation of a 6 year old.
We need to get on the phones and email and continue till this is over. Flake, Collins, Murkowski, Manchin, Heidi (don't remember last name) -- they all need to hear from us tonight, tomorrow, the next day -- until this is over.
This is an EMERGENCY.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(130,536 posts)pnwmom
(110,261 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)News reports are from unnamed sources. And like a lot of stuff with trump, people are likely just making stuff up like they have inside info that sounds plausible because trump and GOPers are corrupt and unprincipled. Some reports are that theyve expanded the investigation, others say it was over by 10 tonight.
Personally, Im going to trust FBI to be professional. If they didnt interview someone because it was prohibited or there was insufficient time, the report will say so, or should say so.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)And the report will NOT be made public.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)JustAnotherGen
(38,054 posts)It won't stay secret forever.
ecstatic
(35,075 posts)At this point, he should be disqualified regardless of what the FBI uncovers! He's unfit, like trump!
RiverStone
(7,278 posts)davekriss
(5,425 posts)whathehell
(30,468 posts)OliverQ
(3,363 posts)eleny
(46,176 posts)roamer65
(37,953 posts)On November 6th, vote for the state governments you want in power during the possible breakup of the US. I am voting straight ticket Dem.
In MI, I am voting to make us more like Canada so we could enter the Canadian confederation much easier.
Calista241
(5,633 posts)People have families; and the vast, vast majority of people will not tolerate the kind of chaos a break up would bring.
roamer65
(37,953 posts)I worked with someone who actually got out. It started before anyone there really could believe it he said.
He told when his parents needed to buy a used car, there were stacks upon stacks on money on the table to do it. In other words, hyperinflation.
Its all riding on November 6th.
whathehell
(30,468 posts)Separation
(1,975 posts)Until up became down, Russia has become our friend, alternate facts (lies) are the truth, and have you ever seen a sitting US president mock a sexual assault victim?
whathehell
(30,468 posts)still -- The differences between the USA & the former Yugoslavia are deeper than this abberation of a presiden
OnDoutside
(20,868 posts)ember.
whathehell
(30,468 posts)quakerboy
(14,868 posts)When things turn from bad to very very bad.
Thats how these things are done.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)Corruption in the courts, in the legislature, beefing up the military, etc.
NEVER think that this cannot happen here.
Jarqui
(10,909 posts)Collins, Murkowski and Flake need to get pounded by the public
The media needs to step up with clear, concise reporting.
moondust
(21,286 posts)We don't know how many of these guys are out there pulling strings in corporate boardrooms:
" (Trump) May Not Be Good for America, but It's Damn Good for CBS" - Les Moonves, former CBS CEO and sex abuser
Wouldn't want anything to happen to their cash cow.
liberalmuse
(18,881 posts)BigmanPigman
(55,137 posts)CALL THE SENATORS!!!! NOW!
Have YOU called any senators yet?
If you did, THANK YOU!!!!
If you didn't, then JUST DO IT! Pleeeeeeeeease!
Call the Senate NOW! This means men too!
87% of the calls have been made by women...why is this considered a woman's issue? It is a human rights issue!
Call the Senate Judiciary Comm this week...
https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/about/members
Call them and tell them that they will NOT get reelected by the majority of the US who is against Kavanaugh.
Call all senators and tell them that they are HYPOCRITES and you only vote for reps who have morals and values and who respect women. RESISTANCE WORKS!
Senate DC directory
(202)224-3121
Call the 8 "iffy" Dem and GOP senators too. Look at this link and read down the thread for all the local office info too.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1011&pid=2543
pnwmom
(110,261 posts)BigmanPigman
(55,137 posts)I have had the most luck with their local offices. Sometimes they are "mailbox full" too. Last night I donated a few dollars to a request from MoveOn.org to help keep the protests going and their phone banks. I wish I could do more, I feel so frustrated!!!!!
Duppers
(28,469 posts)In the least...Outraged better describes my feelings.
arthritisR_US
(7,810 posts)It is not operating as an independent body from your government but as an administrative arm of the WH. Your laws appear to promote this usage and your democracy is now non existent. Dictatorship has taken over while everyone chases the next distraction/disruption.
Hugin
(37,848 posts)
That they are being forced to turn away witnesses who turn up at FBI offices to give information.
In fact, that is their jobs and they are choosing not to do them.
pnwmom
(110,261 posts)criminal investigations and don't follow the same rules.
Hugin
(37,848 posts)They are independently reported crimes and should be investigated independently as crimes.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)And by a very limited investigation will fix it for them , but I can't see all the GOP Senators voting him onto the bench, and maybe even telling McConnell no vote this week or they'll vote against him. The ones that vote for passing him to the bench will be targeted by all women , and men that back their women at the voting booth's this Nov. , and many more now will lose their positions in Congress soon from this. Can't see enough votes , and if their is all hell will break loose again trump and the gop , and it'll be much worse for the gop soon. trump claimed unlimited scope on this which he lied, they were very restricted all along , and trump lied, again. He corrupted the investigation, and the gop are doing nothing against him doing that, yet. This will backfire badly for all of them.