Trump may have sealed Kavanaughs fate at his rally last night.

[shockey80]

Trump mocked and called Ford a liar. He then tried to say young men are now the victims. Once again Trump shows just how stupid and ignorant he really is. That was the dumbest thing you could do at this moment.

Flake saw that rally and I think he was disgusted by it. I may be wrong, but I think Flake is going to vote no along with Collins and the women from Alaska. I think all three of them have been turned off with the process that is taking place.

[Watchfoxheadexplodes]

1. My theory and its bad

Flake and Murkowski vote no but heitkamp and manchin vote yes.

[MichMary]

5. I heard that some poll

has Heitkamp down by 10 points. If that's the case, she has nothing to lose by voting no.

[CincyDem]

6. I think Heitkamp and Manchin have cover to vote no.

Their story:

"I happily voted for Gorsuch because, independent of politics, he's a fine judge. I couldn't vote for Kav because - in my heart of hearts, independent of politics, his demeanor and the words from his own mouth during the hearings lead me to conclude we should look for another nominee who I can support".

That simple - they don't have to believe her or believe him. Assume for a moment (in some f'ing alternative universe) that he did NOTHING of what is alleged by Ford, Ramirez, and Swetnick. His behavior and questionable truthfulness about everything else isn't SCOTUS-worthy.

These two are dems elected in red states. They know how to talk to republicans in a way that makes sense and I'm convinced there's a way for them to vote know and have their red constituents see that it isn't an ideological battle against conservatives but a personal decision about a single man's qualifications. I don't think it's a tiny needle to thread.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

7. Why though

If Flake, Murkowski, and Collins vote no, that gives them cover to vote no. Also, frankly, I would think- at this point- there should be enough questions raised about Kavanaugh that it's not unreasonable for Trump to have to go back to the drawing board and pick somebody else. It *should* be an easy argument to make IMHO. My Senator- Donnelly- has already come out against him.

[Towlie]

19. Help me out here. If Jeff Flake votes no then will it even go to the floor?

Just trying to understand how this works.

[Orangepeel]

21. Flake already voted yes to advancing it to the floor

Besides, Before the committee vote, McConnel said he’d bring it to the floor regardless of the committee’s recommendation (although that might have been a bluff)

[BumRushDaShow]

23. They still have to do a cloture vote in the full Senate

in this case a "majority" with at least 51 votes (vs the old 60 vote threshold). So it could theoretically fail cloture too. The GOP equivocators have a tendency to vote for cloture to allow it to go forward for debate though, even if it ends up failing in the final vote.

[BeyondGeography]

2. Sadly and pathetically

It will most likely come down to the report. Absent a smoking gun befitting a neon sign on Times Square, they will all cave. I hope I'm wrong, but I gave up on "right-minded" Republicans a while ago.

[DemocracyMouse]

11. THAT report is about sexual abuse allegations only

which are bad enough, but he ALREADY committed perjury several times prior to the allegations. The disgusting sexual abuse is masking the earlier perjury!

Doesn't anybody remember anything???

See this please:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211224997

[BeyondGeography]

13. You don't have to remind me of anything

Absent Flake's call for an investigation into the sexual assault charges, this nomination was going through. Even Flake said if he wasn't a lame duck he would have voted for Kav and not insisted on an investigation. The perjury allegations have been in the air from the beginning and they didn't mean squat to him.

[DemocracyMouse]

20. Perjury certainly has settled in as a meaningless crime of late

Instead of being despised, lying, and its related species of human behavior, are now on a Trumpian pedastol. Perjury is manly! Getting drunk and abusing women is manly!

(sarcasm folks)

[OhNo-Really]

26. Is Flynn flinching?

[SunSeeker]

3. I hope you're right. nt

[CincyDem]

4. IMHO, I think they've already decided that Kav is toast. This was Trump "let off the leash".

He's been cooped up in the rational world for weeks on this thing and he's got a lot of pent up rage to spew.

Agree that if it was still in play, this would push it over the edge.

But, IMHO, between Mitch, the botched FBI "investigation", and the media digging that it highlights the full range of issues with Kav...I think they know he's done. As a results, Trump's handlers decided they're not going to spend any more timeout points holding him at bay on this topic.

Either way, I hopeful that we wake up from this nightmare by week's end and we're on to the next shitstorm. Of maybe, we could refocus our attention on what is now being reported as 13,000 kids separated and being moved into more permanent temporary quarters. just WTF ???

[Thekaspervote]

8. Sure hope you are right!!

[Generic Other]

29. This would be a good outcome

I don't care how they save face as long as Kavanaugh is gone.

[MineralMan]

9. I can't predict what those three will do.

I can't see the calculations they're doing in their heads. Those calculations are what matters to them. Nothing else. That's why they're Republicans.

[yardwork]

10. Unfortunately for our country, I think that the Republicans won either way.

If they have the votes to confirm Kavanaugh, they get a majority vote of destruction on the Supreme Court. Kavanaugh literally hates Democrats and women. His vote on the Supreme Court will hasten the destruction of our democracy.

If the Republicans fail to confirm Kavanaugh, they will use this as a rallying cry for the midterms. The message is clear - white men are under attack and their mothers, wives, sisters and daughters must rush to their defense. The emotional wave could suppress the blue wave.

Our only hope is to get out the vote for Democrats.

[bdamomma]

12. hear that hissing noise

that is the psyche of Americans right now, we will blow soon.

[Wounded Bear]

14. I hope you are right, but I seriously doubt it...

The Repubs are going to ram this through.

[UTUSN]

15. Mr & Mrs Mika Scabs said the opposite, that polls show the Deplorables rallying for Kav

that the Red State Dems are sliding, and that SHITLER knows and plays to the Deplorables.

[ooky]

16. Flake and Collins have both said that lying to the committee was disqualifying.

And we have a cold hard lie when he said that he had no knowledge of Rameriz' allegations until the New Yorker story came out. So there are at least two Republican no votes right there.

[OliverQ]

17. No he didn't. Republicans consider that a bonus to vote for him.

It won't hurt Kavanaugh at all.

[imanamerican63]

18. It should not even be this tight!

Kavanaugh is a bad pick and if Sasse, Corker and the other women GOP Senators vote no? Trump won't be able to pin it on one or two of them!

[FSogol]

22. Possible. Yesterday, Mitch McConnell was making noises that he wanted a vote today.

That never happened.

[djg21]

24. I think the FBI investigation will exclude Kavanaugh.

That is why the FBI is ending it’s investigation “early.” Trump and McConnell know this, and McConnell wants to keep the report from being disclosed to the public so he and Trump can attempt to make hay by blaming the Democrats in an effort to get the Republican vote out in the midterms. If I am right and the report is not released to the public, my hope is that some Dem, or maybe Flake, will have the balls to leak it (excuse me, but I can’t think of a better word right now).

[Cha]

25. It was Absolutely the Dumbest most Moronic

thing you ever could do.. and Of Course.. the STUPID ASSHOLE did IT.

[elocs]

27. I have no doubt that Kavanaugh will be confirmed.

I'd love to be pleasantly surprised, but I just don't see him not getting confirmed.
No matter what happens to Trump his legacy for ill will be his nominees to the courts and they will make decisions that will change this nation for decades to come.

[bitterross]

28. Flake is not goin to to the right thing.

If he was going to to the right thing he would not have voted him out of committee.