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Rachel Maddow snowybirdie Oct 2018 #1
Yeah. Cool story bro. awesomerwb1 Oct 2018 #2
So you're saying the Times spent months researching and writing a meaningless 8-page story... brooklynite Oct 2018 #3
Ok, Separation Oct 2018 #8
No Separation Oct 2018 #15
Have your read the NYT piece or are you just relying on The Hill? BTW, did you know... DonViejo Oct 2018 #4
This! dewsgirl Oct 2018 #7
Ok stop now Separation Oct 2018 #11
IOW you haven't read the NYT article and you are relying solely on The Hill's vision DonViejo Oct 2018 #13
My question is: thucythucy Oct 2018 #5
............... Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2018 #6
MARK IT ZERO! peekaloo Oct 2018 #10
LOL! lunatica Oct 2018 #9
Nonsense. That story took 18 months of research The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #12
OK fine Separation Oct 2018 #14
The point... ADX Oct 2018 #21
What was bumped from the front page again Separation Oct 2018 #23
Speak for yourself. I do. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #25
Are you the average nonpolitical junkie? Separation Oct 2018 #26
They're not prosecutors... lame54 Oct 2018 #22
The story was about tax fraud, not money laundering. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #24
Unrec. n/t demmiblue Oct 2018 #16
+1... SidDithers Oct 2018 #19
So what? n/t leftstreet Oct 2018 #17
Tried to clear OP up Separation Oct 2018 #18
I don't need any more proof. Loge23 Oct 2018 #20
you seem very concerned ! stonecutter357 Oct 2018 #27
 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
3. So you're saying the Times spent months researching and writing a meaningless 8-page story...
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 11:13 AM
Oct 2018

...just in case they needed to distract people from something else?

The only thing worse than a bad conspiracy theory is a lazy one.

Separation

(1,975 posts)
8. Ok,
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 11:18 AM
Oct 2018

You know what, when I say it out loud that anytime the "failing NYT" releases a story, like that anonymous inside letter that changed the narrative at the time, sounds really crazy to me too, and I'm sure if I did just a basic Google search, nothing would turn up.

Separation

(1,975 posts)
15. No
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 11:24 AM
Oct 2018

What I am saying is, unless there is %100 bulletproof evidence that you will get a conviction, why release this story now? As in this week? As in the day the FBI is probably finishing up with their report.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
4. Have your read the NYT piece or are you just relying on The Hill? BTW, did you know...
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 11:14 AM
Oct 2018

the owner of The Hill is a Trump supporter?

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
13. IOW you haven't read the NYT article and you are relying solely on The Hill's vision
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 11:22 AM
Oct 2018

of what is or is not happening. Thanks for responding!

thucythucy

(9,144 posts)
5. My question is:
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 11:14 AM
Oct 2018

Why weren't the press doing this kind of work BEFORE the election?

Trump has been a cancerous fixture in NYC for decades. He's been a national political figure since he began the birther nonsense. Ad they're only now doing serious journalism on his criminal past and seedy connections?

The Velveteen Ocelot

(131,199 posts)
12. Nonsense. That story took 18 months of research
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 11:19 AM
Oct 2018

and involved collecting and reviewing thousands of pages of financial documents. It revealed actual evidence of outright fraud and the NY tax authorities are looking into it. It's a serious, important story.

Separation

(1,975 posts)
14. OK fine
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 11:23 AM
Oct 2018

But what good is the story? Its not like it will change anyone who votes for him, opinion. Money laundering is a pretty tough crime to get a conviction. Notice I said conviction. So ill say it again. Unless there is %100 bulletproof evidence that he committed tax fraud or money laundering. What's the point....maybe that's not the point...why release it now, This week?

 

ADX

(1,622 posts)
21. The point...
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 11:30 AM
Oct 2018

...is that the things asserted in the NYT story are further evidence that Chump is a deceitful, lying, scumbag con artist and anytime anyone wants to pen a well-written article to that effect is a-ok.

Semper Fi...

Separation

(1,975 posts)
23. What was bumped from the front page again
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 11:33 AM
Oct 2018

You arent about to tell me that the people in the US have an attention span (the average non political junkie) more than 24 hours?

The Velveteen Ocelot

(131,199 posts)
24. The story was about tax fraud, not money laundering.
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 11:34 AM
Oct 2018

The statutes of limitations have run on any possible criminal tax fraud charges, but there's no statute of limitations for civil penalties - which in this case could be enormous. Their evidence actually is pretty bulletproof, and since only civil penalties are possible at this point, the criminal standard of proof beyond a reasonable doubt isn't even necessary. Why release it now? Because it was completed. Why wait?

Loge23

(3,922 posts)
20. I don't need any more proof.
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 11:29 AM
Oct 2018

He had me 30 years ago. That, or even earlier, was when I knew the conman was a fraud.
I don't need a NYT piece, a Woodward expose, whispers from staffers, or any other breaking news about what he said or tweeted last night. He's human garbage, plain and simple; and he has to go.

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