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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDo you realize that Trump wasn't mocking Dr. Ford at his rally last night?
He was mocking a 15 year old girl who had feared for her life while being sexually assaulted.
It doesn't get much lower than that.
dogman
(6,073 posts)No respect for victims who are not himself.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)atrocity of injustice.
raging moderate
(4,624 posts)"what was she doing in a party, drinking? what was she doing in a room with four boys?" It is an old world, and we hope it is passing away.
at140
(6,251 posts)were howling with laughter. I have never seen such attacks on victims of sexual abuse & handicapped people in my long lifetime of nearing 80. This is new phenomena in US.
Arkansas Granny
(32,265 posts)What causes people to celebrate this kind of ugliness?
BlueTsunami2018
(4,988 posts)It just took this assholes election for them to feel free to voice it without repercussions.
Remember the 2012 debate when the question was posed as to whether a person without insurance should have to die after being in an accident? The Republican crowd shouted an enthusiastic yes.
This is nothing new, theyre all just out in the open now.
True Blue American
(18,579 posts)Trump is saying what his followers think all their lives!
ProfessorPlum
(11,461 posts)Ugly and fucked up
gtar100
(4,192 posts)I sometimes wonder if they brought picnic baskets with them.
Mopar151
(10,348 posts)Degradation, shunning/ostracism, public shaming, ethnic cleansing, fearmongering, the chorus keeps repeating, the verses move around.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)I was raped when I was 6. It was 64 years ago. I dont remember what day it was or what year it was. I dont remember anything at all that happened before or after. I remember everything the pedophile did to me though.
It wouldnt surprise me if all rape and near raped people feel exactly like I do.
Arkansas Granny
(32,265 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)It took many, many years but I truly put the pain behind me. Now its just something that happened to me a long time ago. I only bring it up to show others theyre not alone.
The biggest mistake Trump made was that every rape and sexual assault victim and everyone who empathizes with them will take his mockery very personally.
Big mistake!
JudyM
(29,785 posts)ever cry but I have had tears for all of you last night and today... you are not alone.
This has brought millions out of the silence of shame. Watching MSNBC the last few days Ive heard almost every guest and every anchor has told of so many friends and family members telling them their #MeToo story. It has shocked them deeply. The men are telling how theyre asking their kids if theyve been assaulted. There have been a lot of sad and grim faces on this week.
Thats the reason I talk about it. Because it helps other victims and it helps the people who love them.
Im over all the pain of it. I talk about to help others. And in this case because it does feel like Trump mocked me.
True Blue American
(18,579 posts)And Donny Deutsch both had their daughters tell them the same thing.
Shoonra
(602 posts)My sympathies to all women who have experienced sexual violence.
I had read somewhere that the number of American women who have, at some point, endured sexual violence - perhaps not a completed rape, but an attempted rape or a groping or something similar - is an appalling number, something like 1 in 4 or 1 in 5. Which means that Trump's speech immediately and painfully hurt the feelings of at least 1 out of 4 women voters (not counting the mothers, sisters, or daughters of such victims). And we can throw in whatever men were offended by Trump's speech - I'd bet easily 1 in 5 and maybe more. As the saying goes, we'll remember in November.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Its shocking when you figure out how many people out of a population of 325 million actually get raped. And if you only count the number of women in the US the number is even worse.
Permanut
(8,390 posts)and for showing great courage now, and when you had to.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)It took a few decades, but I was able to get past it.
Grasswire2
(13,849 posts)I have a male friend who was essentially raped by the older girl next door when he was 8. It has deeply affected his life and he is retirement age now. I care about the assault on you.
True Blue American
(18,579 posts)And, even thought this is wrong I hope they all rot in hell.
I posted articles about the Universities in Ohio reporting a drastic increase in assauts. Guess what a woman answered? Poor little Ohio girls. As if it was their fault.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)You went through something beyond horrific and thank you for being brave and sharing.
Pepsidog
(6,365 posts)katmondoo
(6,524 posts)He shows himself to be the scum of the earth detestable in so many ways. The latest his criminal business practices and his whole family of crooks. I can't get over how cruel he was to Dr. Ford. It is unforgivable.
ginnyinWI
(17,276 posts)Is he making it possible for Senators to vote Kav down? To increase GOP turnout for midterms? They say a confirmation will increase the blue wave.
crazytown
(7,277 posts)This is who trump is - he gets off on it. He mocks and humiliates his inner circle at the WhiteHouse. Theres no rhyme or reason to it, he just enjoys it.
Going out on a limb, ridiculing Dr Ford before the FBI report is in is stupid politics. Trump does not care. He takes his pleasure now.
Grasswire2
(13,849 posts)Married to one for too long. That's what they do to assert their superiority. Sadism.
True Blue American
(18,579 posts)Trump does not think. He is not capable of thinking ahead.
Then Kelly Anne said he was just describing what happened. She claims to have been assaulted yet takes up for the worst assaulter of all.
spooky3
(38,632 posts)Article about his career of fraud.
Initech
(108,778 posts)After all - this is the same piece of shit who went into the women's changing room and just stood there because he could. Fucking asshole.
crazytown
(7,277 posts)then paid them off: Deny Deny Deny - they wont believe you - take the money.
anarch
(6,536 posts)He clearly has no empathy or basic human decency; for him, other people only exist to be taken advantage of.
Initech
(108,778 posts)In fact I'd be willing to bet good odds that Trump has done things that make the "FFFF" club seem tame by comparison.
Demovictory9
(37,113 posts)Niagara
(11,850 posts)Just my opinion
(15 posts)and remember he is the President of my country, I shed another tear.
I believe he is the Antichrist, the personification of Hate.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)And again he lied about things describing what she knew , and didn't know, evidently his followers can not read the news like him, and he's got them normalized to sexual assaulting women as the woman's fault , and the predators should be scared now. All while he promotes another predator to the highest court in OUR country. Liar trump and kavanaugh are very much alike, they neither one can be honest and truthful. Republican Senators should never ever vote for anyone this flawed for this court, and kavanaugh shouldn't be on any bench in any court as corrupt as he is, but also for all his lying. He will not stay if they vote him in, then eventually he'll be removed and replaced. He may even be facing time in prison. Senators may be too that helped him get in , if he does.
malaise
(296,098 posts)and criminal is still in office. I find it frightening.
Enoki33
(1,605 posts)on full display in the manner in which he mocked the then 15 year old child. As Chris Matthews said of the adults who laughed in response: Im sure she can still hear the laughter. Those people were feeding from the scum at the bottom of the already polluted pond. Fortunately they are in the minority.
Initech
(108,778 posts)The Wizard
(13,735 posts)support scumbags. Scumbags support other scumbags.
Jarqui
(10,908 posts)Woman who accused Donald Trump of raping her at 13 drops lawsuit
Woman had alleged Trump and billionaire Jeffrey Epstein raped her in 1994
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/04/donald-trump-teenage-rape-accusations-lawsuit-dropped
This week she about the allegations, and another attorney, Lisa Bloom, cited numerous threats against her client.
She has been here all day, ready to do it, but unfortunately she is in terrible fear, Bloom said on Wednesday. Blooms mother, Gloria Allred, is an attorney representing several women who have accused Trump of sexual misconduct.
Just reminding folks that you can get lower ... and Trump probably did.