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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPREDICTION: If the Senate winds up 51(D)-49(R) after Nov. 6.
AND Joe Manchin is re-elected...
Manchin will jump ship and finally become a Republican In Name Also.
pstokely
(10,858 posts)could Murkowski go indie?
Many Dems went over to the dark side.
I only ever recall a single R that went to I and caucused with the Dems.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)I remember that day well
Sqee
(25 posts)And I lived through Watergate, too.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)BumRushDaShow
(167,153 posts)afterwhich Chafee did become an (I), albeit right after he lost his seat in the Senate.
MichMary
(1,714 posts)FakeNoose
(40,730 posts)When he was a DA in Philadelphia and then as a Senator for Pennsylvania, he was Republican. But in 2009 he switched parties during his final term.
As a young man Specter was a Democrat and he was usually considered "liberal-ish" during his Republican years.
Jersey Devil
(10,782 posts)She was beaten in the primary and won with a write in campaign. Technically, she IS an Indie now who caucuses with the Republicans.
sweetloukillbot
(12,744 posts)She never left the party, just ran as a sore loser when she lost the nom.
Jersey Devil
(10,782 posts)She can call herself a Republican, but as a write in I don't think she would be permitted to use the party label. There was a Republican on that ballot running for the same office.
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Lunabell
(7,309 posts)musicblind
(4,563 posts)But I think he would have switched months ago if he was going to switch because that would have been the most politically expedient time to do it.
Sqee
(25 posts)He could name whatever committees he wanted to chair and would get all sorts of pork for back home.
madinmaryland
(65,690 posts)And he does vote dem most of the time.
Tavarious Jackson
(1,595 posts)MichMary
(1,714 posts)after the Rs took the Senate in 2014.
CincyDem
(7,341 posts)The only vote between sanity and pence.
Sqee
(25 posts)I would bet the farm on that.
HE is never to be trusted ever again.
CincyDem
(7,341 posts)But technically, if he's part of the Dem caucus at 51/49, he makes very current ranking member the chair of their respective committee...I get that he will vote with the Republican's 40-50% of the time but he's not going to be on every committee. And I'd be willing to give him what he wants to take the calendar from McConnell. I realize Schumer's job will be laced with bribes solely for WV but I'm willing to make that trade.
We'll see. To be honest, given the lineup in 2018, we should be so lucky to have our biggest issue be Joe Manchin.
LonePirate
(14,349 posts)Voting for Kavanaugh means he is voting against everything the Democratic Party stands for nowadays.
Raven123
(7,651 posts)Maybe, but the logic seems odd.
Sqee
(25 posts)And going 50-50 R gives the majority to the Repugnants.
All is a moot point, though, as I fully expect him to lose after this vote.
SCantiGOP
(14,680 posts)You change parties to get into the Majority; nonsense to move INTO the minority party.
Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)Manchin owns the state party in WV wholesale. He won't give that up.
Also, if he jumps, he becomes just another Republican and loses attention.
still_one
(98,883 posts)Johnny2X2X
(23,826 posts)When dictators and despots seize power in Democracies in history. The other side continues to play by the rules for far too long. If the Reps hold onto both houses it will be because they stole them. Dems are still playing Democracy, while Reps are playing totalitarianism.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Manchin will pull a Lieberman because he knows he's toast in the Democratic Party after this vote. And West Virginians won't care one bit and still vote for him. Hell, maybe even more so.
Which is why Manchin should be considered a LOST NOW and Democrats MUST TARGET another Republican seat in the Senate NOW or in 2020.
obnoxiousdrunk
(3,110 posts)brooklynite
(96,882 posts)Jose Garcia
(3,450 posts)Instead, he has taken the more difficult path of running as a Democrat in an increasingly red state.
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)Response to SoCalDem (Reply #32)
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SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)I've seen this movie many times..
