Fuck every one of you assfucks who said it didn't matter who won in 2016.

[Drunken Irishman]

[milestogo]

1. Are you addressing "assfucks" who post on DU?

[Drunken Irishman]

4. I am addressing every assfuck.

[Flaleftist]

18. I assume he means anyone who didn't vote for Hillary in the general

I have to agree.

[getagrip_already]

67. +1

[redstatebluegirl]

176. Yes!

[still_one]

39. You don't have a problem with anyone on DU who didn't vote for the DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE in 2016?

Just to be clear, my question pertains only AFTER THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE HAD BEEN SELECTED

It has nothing to do prior to that

[milestogo]

91. Amazing that you are unable to detect that I have a problem with calling

anyone an "assfuck".

[still_one]

95. First, I appreciate the clarification. The problem I was having was it isn't clear what part you

are referring to? The OP was referring to those who refused to vote for the Democratic nominee. You sure didn't make it clear if it was the inappropriate language used to those who didn't vote for the Democratic nominee, or those who didn't vote for Democratic nominee, and that was why I inquired


Whether right or wrong, language sometimes gets rougher than some would like, but are not offended.


It is simple as that, it wasn't clear in the context, and if you view some of the responses in this sub-thread they are focused on the Democratic nominee, not the vulgarity, so perhaps you context wasn't as clear as you would like to believe

[we can do it]

61. Anyone who dissed our candidate?

Yep

[nycbos]

2. Who needs enemies...

... when we have "friends" like that.

[Ellipsis]

77. Did you mean to say enamas?

[rzemanfl]

84. Two "e's" one "a." n/t

[Ellipsis]

88. Obviously not a word I use with regularity.

Fucking autocorrect. Well I hope not anyway.


Poor attempt at "injecting" some humor

[Gothmog]

3. Espicially Sarandon

Link to tweet

[Cha]

16. Thanks for this tweet by CB on SS, Gothmog.

Link to tweet

[NastyRiffraff]

94. I can't stand her face

I can't stand her voice
I can't stand her hair
I can't stand how she dresses
I can't stand her.

I despise her even more than I despise Stein.

[trueblue2007]

167. i can't stand her either. i can't watch witches of eastwick ever again

[Horse with no Name]

5. I fucking agree

I didn't caucus for Obama but I sure as hell voted for him.
Generations are going to suffer because of the fucking purists.

[still_one]

41. That is exactly what matters. What we did in the general election. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

[shanny]

6. I wonder about the point of posts like this

since I doubt if any of those people frequent DU.

[Drunken Irishman]

7. Venting? Ranting? Who cares?

[shanny]

8. Pointless expenditure of energy and time?

Who indeed.

[Drunken Irishman]

9. And yet, here you are. Wasting more time.

[bearsfootball516]

10. I agree with you shanny.

There's a lot that can be done to channel anger in a healthy way. I canvass for Joe Donnelly. Gets me exercise, I'm making a difference and not just ranting on DU.

[shanny]

24. +1

Raging at absent people is pointless to me.

[eleny]

27. shanny, the people he rants about are definitely here

people like that have been here as far back as i can remember. your premise is without merit.

kick and rec'ing the op.

[shanny]

28. Even if they are, they sure as shit aren't listening.

[eleny]

33. get used to the rants, shanny. they're part of the du experience

please take the last word. maybe you have something new to add. i've made my point. bye.

[LanternWaste]

174. A simple and visceral release of frustration.

Seems the only more pointless expenditure of energy and time is responding to that same pointless and visceral release of frustration.

Who Indeed, Part II; Revenge of the Indeeds.

[USALiberal]

46. Attention maybe? nt

[Drunken Irishman]

66. Been on this forum too long to care about attention.

[Cha]

118. No.. it's not for "attention" as you so rudely ask.

[Ellipsis]

78. Well then let's break out out the boofamatic

...and fire up the colortinnies.

[Hoyt]

11. There were actually a number of those people here leading up to November 2016.

You'll find many of them on sites such as the Jackpine Radicals (mostly so-called "progressives" who w/couldn't vote for Clinton) and Discussionist (mostly white wing racists who hid out here to raise havoc).

[JI7]

14. they show up every election season

[shanny]

23. Since I will "find many of them on" other sites, what's the big deal

about calling them out here now?

[Hoyt]

86. That's where they aren't careful about their true beliefs.

But thanks for asking.

[shanny]

87. ok

we'll continue to call out people on other sites about their "true beliefs." sounds like a plan.

[JI7]

13. the call out the scum who always claim no difference every fucking election

why do you have a problem calling out liars ?

[shanny]

21. I'm just laughing at the idea that any are hanging around here.

But if venting self-righteous rage at a non-existing audience is your deal, have at it.

[JI7]

22. they are always here. one just did a goodbye thread

why so defensive ?

[shanny]

25. "laughing" equals defensive?

yeah, OK

[JI7]

26. its more than laughing

[shanny]

30. professing mad ESP skillz now?

[JI7]

34. you claim the op is pointless expenditure of time and energy

but you are always on these threads expending time and energy.

[shanny]

37. non sequitur

[JI7]

40. i guess you changed your mind about time and energy on this thread

[shanny]

42. LOL

dude. the purpose of this thread is not equal to my purpose in commenting on it. get it now?

[JI7]

47. time and energy

[shanny]

48. deep

[Tarheel_Dem]

92. "but you are always on these threads expending time and energy." Always.

[Cha]

120. Always! "spending time and energy" claiming not to.

And, always has to have the last word no matter what.

[JHan]

100. yup +++

[SunSeeker]

49. Why should our posts spare trolls' feelings?

[shanny]

51. spend your time and ire however you wish

I just don't expect a big and appropriate audience for it around here. That's it.

[SunSeeker]

54. Again, why should we spare trolls' feelings? The trolls are part of the problem.

I think the majority on this thread agree with the OP.

But your concern that the OP will not have an audience here is duly noted.

[shanny]

56. Your concern for my concern is noted as well.

As is your penchant for putting intentions in my head and words in my mouth.

[SunSeeker]

59. What is your point, shanny? Why not call out those who fucked us and America over?

[shanny]

65. My point is why call out people that aren't even here?

That's it. I don't know what is so hard to figure out.

[SunSeeker]

73. They are here. And that is very different from saying the OP would not be well received here.

Obviously, the OP was very well received here.

And you aren't seriously suggesting there are no trolls /both sides are the same/Bernie or Bust people here, are you?

[shanny]

74. well have at it then

I'm sure it will make a difference.

[SunSeeker]

76. It will. Calling out frauds is long overdue. nt

[shanny]

79. I'm sure it will also make a massive difference in the scheme of things. nt

[SunSeeker]

80. I ignored your naysaying for a reason.

But it is obviously so important to you to shit on us that you had to repeat it. Unbelievable.

[shanny]

81. That's your characterization.

I don't accept your framing.

[SunSeeker]

83. I call them as I see them.

I don't need your acceptance.

[Tarheel_Dem]

93. My question is...how could you possibly know if they're here or not? "Mad ESP skillz"?

[shanny]

102. I'm sure you would know.

I just don't get wasting any energy on un-get-able voters. But if it makes you happy, by all means have at it.

[Tarheel_Dem]

114. I just don't get why you feel the need to weigh in on these threads with admonishment. As you say,

it's "a waste of energy", so why do you bother?

[Cha]

122. Yeah, he has "mad ESP skillz", doncha know?

[SidDithers]

183. But they are here, shanny...

Sid

[MFM008]

108. yeah they do

with their passive aggressiveness.
The type that thought we needed to lose to "purify" the party.
I just "hate" Hillary........... shes so blah blah blah
This is all on you , the destruction of everything they said you
cared about.
Now we get the drunk frat boy, the ass kissing gorsuck put in by the pussy grabbing tax cheat.

[shanny]

112. WTF

"This is all on you, the destruction of everything they said you cared about."

Who is "they," who is "you" and who are you?

[MFM008]

121. Everyone who trashed our

Nominee.
Didnt vote for her.
Worked against us
Because of 3rd parties .
How much clearer could i have been.

[yardwork]

113. Oh but they do.

[radical noodle]

132. I'd have guessed that you knew they

frequent DU. Some as trolls, others as pretend Democrats. At least a couple go down in flames every day. Don't know how you missed it.

There was a time when I hoped we might get past the anger but the worse things get, the more we hate them. I speak primarily for myself, but I know there are others here who feel the same. We will never forgive, we will never forget. Our anger fuels our resistance.

[betsuni]

133. We will never forgive, we will never forget.

[SidDithers]

181. Still calling Democrats the "Dim party" over at JPR, shanny?...nt

Sid

[betsuni]

187. ...

[ecstatic]

12. Thank you. I need this type of venting outlet on days like this.

I get infuriated all over again with the GOP and the people who stayed home/voted 3rd party. I don't want to hear shit from any people belonging to any of those groups for the next week or so.

[Zing Zing Zingbah]

15. Umm, I never said that. Who did? n/t

[Drunken Irishman]

17. It was Zang Zang Zangbah.

That guy is a real asshole.

[Zing Zing Zingbah]

20. Figures. He's my mortal enemy. LOL! n/t

[Iggo]

19. Jesus, I hate these fucking threads.

[shanny]

31. Amen.

[Drunken Irishman]

32. Jesus. I hate these fucking replies.

[XRubicon]

96. Because "they" are all the same?

[USALiberal]

103. I agree, really silly post. nt

[Cicada]

29. I share your sentiment, but remember we all make mistakes.

I thought Bob Dole would beat Clinton. As my wife often reminds me, howling with laughter.

[JI7]

35. it's not a mistake. most did the same in 2000 claiming

no difference between gore and bush.

[SunSeeker]

50. Yup. Trolls gonna troll. nt

[Scurrilous]

36. K&R

[elmac]

38. believe it or not

I never ran into anyone who said that in 16 but I'm in tRump land and they were foaming at the mouth to get to the polls to make ameriKa hate again.

[watoos]

43. United we stand, divided we fall.

I read a lot of Buddhist and other positive novels. It certainly does good to learn from the past and plan for the future, but as Ekhart Tolle says, the only thing that is is the now, this present moment, by the time I hit post my thread will be gone, relegated to a memory. Dwelling on the past or worrying about the future is pointless, and unhealthy.

[Initech]

44. +10000000000000000000000000!!!!

[MariaCSR]

52. Word.

[Baclava]

53. Bernie or Bust!

Bust

?w=795

[SunSeeker]

57. Yup. Sickening.

Looks like Dr. Ford's accusations didn't "ruin" his or his family's "life." They're all smiles like nothing happened.

[ztug]

115. Smiles

Only because they won. It would have been a little different if he didn't. He wouldn't have been able to teach anymore, he wouldn't have been able to coach anymore. His life would have never been the same. Because of a uncorroborated accusation. But you know guilty until proven innocent and all that.

[gay texan]

55. Ain't no use crying about it now

It's up to us to fix this mess. Volunteer and GOTV!!!!!!!!!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

58. Where have you been, DI ? Have missed you :)

[BlueJac]

60. Chill...

everyone needs a day off after last week. Enjoy your loved ones and relax!

[elocs]

62. I would put money on that there were DUers who either didn't vote in the 2016 general election,

or who voted for a third party candidate. They may not, likely would not or are ashamed of admitting it now, but they're here.
When a rational person is presented with a perceived choice between bad and worse, and it will with certainty be one or the other, they do what they can to make sure that worse does not prevail.
There is no way that Clinton and Trump were equally bad because she never would have nominated someone like Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court.
None of this ever needed to happen, yet America will suffer for it.

As long as we have people on the Left who insist on making the Democratic Party tent as small and pure as possible, who disparage and put down those who have counted themselves as Democrat for years as "DINOs" or "Republican Lite" because they are not sufficiently Liberal enough, then the GOP will prevail.
The simple fact is that there are states and districts where a Liberal Democrat will never be elected but a conservative one might. But that conservative Democrat counts towards the Democrats controlling whatever body they are elected to serve so Democrats can set the agenda for that body. I don't know why this is such a difficult concept to grasp.

[Andy823]

72. Good post

A whole lot of those who left here for JPR come back to stir things up and try and cause divisions. Every election right wing trolls show up, and probably some Russian trolls. The JPR crowd that left were great at pushing the "purity" meme here, and were always playing the "doom and gloom" card. I am pretty sure we will a lot more of those kinds of post in the next few weeks.

92,077,433 registered voters, 46 percent, did not vote in 2016. We need to make sure this does not happen again. One way is to ignore the trolls. They are only here to cause problems.
It's been posted many times here "don't feed the trolls".

[Ellipsis]

63. I believe the term you're looking for is BOOFERS

Continue.

[mcar]

64. The "no difference" voters

The "HRC is worse than Trump" voters.
The "I'm voting my conscience" voters.
The "Supreme Court isn't important" voters.

[Roadside Attraction]

68. Reminder:

It is a violation of the DU Terms of Service to refight the 2016 primary and election.

[MrsCoffee]

71. Um, nice lecture, but what makes you think this is about the primaries?

I'm pretty sure the OP is talking about the GE.

[still_one]

98. You do realize that when a general election is held, THE PRIMARIES ARE OVER, right?

When the general election is held, you either voted for the Democratic nominee or you didn't


THAT IS NOT REFIGHTING THE PRIMARIES

[JesterCS]

107. Unless you're one of the privileged few

Who constantly get away with it.

[Cha]

124. This is about the 2016 General Rigging In of trump.

[Cha]

123. Reminder: This is about the fucking 2016 General "Rigging"

in of trump.

[LexVegas]

70. Bye.

[Ellipsis]

75. He was probably anally challenged.

[marble falls]

82. Sounded like JPR cant to me. He just signed in here by mistake. Hope he likes pizza.

[Turin_C3PO]

89. Yup.

👍

[XRubicon]

90. Indeed.

[Joe941]

97. Homaphobic terms like this should not be allowed.

[XRubicon]

99. Wake up

[still_one]

101. could you educate me why this is "homophobic"?

[Wabbajack_]

127. Anal Sex

is a of course a common practice among gay and bisexual men .and you make "Assfuck" into some kind of pejorative.

I'm not bent out of shape but I can see why some may be offended. I would have of come up with a different pejorative. The traditional "asshole" would have done fine or "pieces of shit".

[still_one]

129. thanks

[JesterCS]

105. This is why we will continue to lose....people saying

Their way or the highway. I'm talking about the "extremists" on THIS side of fence. Not specifying who or if I voted. That's my RIGHT, and if someone can't handle that, its their problem, and theirs alone.

These threads are just more proof that certain people are always going to be angry because something didn't go their way.

I'm in no way defending Trump. I despise the man. But this kindergarten finger pointing helps ZERO people

[betsuni]

110. "people saying their way or the highway." Their way: Democrats. The highway: Republicans.

That "something didn't go their way" was the 2016 general election. Why wouldn't anyone here not be angry?

[Cha]

126. IKR. It's not that hard to figure out that this is about the 2016 Rigged

in "election" of trump.

[betsuni]

128. "This is why we will continue to lose ..."

Wut.

[Cha]

131. 'Cause we have the Audacity to

Vent about those who didn't have a fucking clue how dangerous trump was.. and at those who believed the brainwashing LIES of susansarandon and jill ratfucker stein about Hillary.

Not like he showed us during his GE campaign or anything how fucking insane he was. Why would anyone take Sarandon's and Stein's word that "..Hillary was more dangerous than trump"?

Those two have quite the racket helping vladmire out like that.

They'll be at it again in 2020.. no remorse. Sociopaths.

[betsuni]

134. They'll be trying to convince us that Democrats are the corporate party.

It's pathetic!

[Cha]

125. Your post isn't helping.

[JesterCS]

143. And neither are the fuck everyone posts

Its absurd. The shit is over and nothing is gained by being irate at your own fellow Democrats. We need to focus on the future not the past. Seems many are stuck playing the blame game, instead of spending their effort on what to do going forward. I appreciate opinions are just that, opinions, but there's a difference between constructive criticism and bad mouthing any target of convenience.

If someone has a problem with how I feel, then let me remind them, we arent sheep who follow whatever a majority thinks.

I rarely post, but I do when I feel its important or someone hasn't already posted similar feelings.

The name calling is, at best, a very republican way of seeing things

[Cha]

146. It's so touching that you get on this thread.. and in a "rare" post accuse

DU members of ".. at best, a very republican way of seeing things".

Your accusations against DU members aren't helping.

[JesterCS]

148. If the shoe fits. Plus

I expressed my opinion in a nonviolent way. Its black and white. You can fight me on it all you wish, but it doesn't change the fact that people here are under attack by elitists because not everyone agrees with them. As I said, the OP is immature, inflammatory, and not what adults do.

[Cha]

149. No sorry.. your old cliche ".. if the shoe fits.." is ridiculous.

[betsuni]

151. "People here are under attack by elitists because not everyone agrees with them."

[Cha]

155. Wow.. I do believe we got called a Talking Point that

is reminiscent of someone who has nothing but insults for our Democratic Party.

Shocking.. lol

[emulatorloo]

179. Yeah those horrible "elistists" who vote for Democrats

Seems like we are being gaslighted by a couple three posters in this thread.

[betsuni]

186. Yup.

[lapucelle]

170. Who is irate at fellow Democrats?

The contempt and approbation is directed towards anyone who helped put Trump in the White House, including Trump voters, lazy, entitled "I need to be inspired to fulfill the most fundamental of civic duties" no-shows, and third-party fence-sitters.

[R B Garr]

147. So you won't say who you voted for, but threads not in favor

of those who dogged and lied about Hillary are where you chose to declare your outrage. Really?!

The lies about Hillary and Democrats are exactly what the Russians saw and exploited. There is plenty of actual real-world destruction to you and your rights that is a direct result of believing their propaganda. It’s surprising that doesn’t outrage you more.

[namahage]

168. You're certainly right that some people will always be angry

because something didn't go their way.

Perhaps you could tell them what you said here, while they still have a board?

[Calculating]

106. Chill dude

Posts like this are unconstructive. This is exactly what the Republicans want, they're laughing at our outrage and despair. Don't give it to them.

[Tiggeroshii]

111. Venting is therapeutic. Next we can channel this anger into action.

[Cha]

116. No, this is exactly what needs to be done.. It does no good

to tell a Democratic Underground member how to react to this BULLSHIT.

How do you know the republicans are "laughing"? And, Who Gives A Fuck?

[Tiggeroshii]

109. To oblivion.

[k-dub]

117. My story is...

I feel almost guilty. I will be honest, I was not energized by Hillary. I am sorry, just wasn't. I respected her a ton. Her brilliance and ability was obvious. She was tested and true. But I did have "Clinton fatigue" and that's maybe MY fault for falling into the line, but if a solid Democrat would not be excited HOW would moderates and indys be excited?

I live in Pennsylvania, one of those blue states she HAD TO HAVE. I can't remember many good commercials and the ones that ran were so lame. She did have a commercial or a "talk" really late in the campaign where she just spoke to people and THAT worked. It was the first time I heard Hillary just talk to us like people, not potential voters, but people. And SHE KICKED ASS. But by then, I think it was too late.

That said I cast my vote for HRC. I am proud of that vote and if a few others had followed suit our nation would not be barreling toward fascism today. Had I voted for Stein, not voted or voted for the Orange DoucheLord I'd probably be vomiting tonight, but I gave Hillary my vote. I wish she had won.

[UCmeNdc]

119. Agree！ Fuck them.

Jimmy Dore especially.

[underthematrix]

130. This is an interesting article on how white women

make decisions about who to vote for. Maybe they're ambivalent about giving up the ways in which they benefit from patriarchy. :
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/06/opinion/lisa-murkowski-susan-collins-kavanaugh.html?action=click&module=Trending&pgtype=Article®ion=Footer&contentCollection=Trending

After a confirmation process where women all but slit their wrists, letting their stories of sexual trauma run like rivers of blood through the Capitol, the Senate still voted to confirm Judge Brett M. Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court. With the exception of Senator Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, all the women in the Republican conference caved, including Senator Susan Collins of Maine, who held out until the bitter end.

These women are gender traitors, to borrow a term from the dystopian TV series “The Handmaid’s Tale.” They’ve made standing by the patriarchy a full-time job. The women who support them show up at the Capitol wearing “Women for Kavanaugh” T-shirts, but also probably tell their daughters to put on less revealing clothes when they go out.

This is in part why I think Joe Kennedy III is the best candidate for the DEMS in 2020. I love him and I'm a realist.

[betsuni]

135. I agree.

[KitSileya]

136. And by their spokespersons you shall know them

Here's what the surrogate of one 2016 Presidential candidate just tweeted:

Link to tweet

They don't care about the people who have died because of their vote in 2016 They don't care about how many will die, because they think that by letting the Republicans win it'll destroy the Democratic party and bring on the revolution. They want the bust part of their slogan, not caring that those who will DIE are minorities, those who traditionally vote Democratic. Because they are luke-warm about the Republicans, but hate the Democratic Party as much as the deplorables do.

[SunSeeker]

140. Sameera Khan is a troll for Russia who works for RT. Block her. nt

[Cha]

159. She's a fecking Idiot.

[SunSeeker]

163. That too.

[Cha]

158. They're so full of BullShit. They care nothing about

the Planet or our country and the suffering.. only about their teeny tiny insignificant little selves.

Link to tweet

Thanks Kit

[betsuni]

162. I had to Google her.

A surrogate! Disgusting. That person has no conscience or morals.

[Hortensis]

189. She illustrates a type in left-wing dissenting factions.

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What matters is that people realize these zealots exist and always have throughout the history of elective politics.

These dysfunctional zealots are mercifully small in numbers and never do take over and lead their nation to a shiny new world, of course. Instead, era after era they do their best to undermine the left-wing majority party and usually the "best" they can manage is to throw elections to right wing forces, while claiming only the highest of ideals. As here,.

At no time in the past have dissident minorities felt so much at home and had so much room to throw their weight around. They speak and act as if they were "the people," and what they abominate most is the dissent of the majority. ~ Eric Hoffer, The True Believer

[Jim Lane]

137. Let's also take note of their enablers

Before the election, when it was widely believed that Trump couldn't possibly win, there were posts on DU addressed to those who had anything negative to say about Clinton: "I don't care how you vote."

Now, with the benefit of hindsight, people do care -- enough to express their opinions over and over.

Perhaps, along with or possibly even in lieu of calling them "assfucks", some lessons might be drawn for the future.

[wundermaus]

138. One would think after posting over 58,000 times on DU

You would have a better sense of civility both to DU members and citizens in general with different points of view within the Democratic party. I have been a member of the Democratic Party since 1972 and a member of this forum since 2006.
Saying "Fuck every one of you assfucks" in a public forum to members of the Democratic party leaves no access to meaningful dialog or discussion.
In 2016 I wanted to vote for Bernie as a Democrat but the ranking members of the Democratic party subverted that process. Bernie was the better choice and in hindsight, analysis has proven that Bernie was the candidate most likely to win. To say the Republican party is corrupt is only half the story. The Democratic Party subverted our choice with a corrupt and predetermined anointment of Clinton.

Progressives were motivated and mobilized to win with Bernie. The democratic party is not like the Republican party but they both fall victim to the same corrupting forces. Admit the possibility that the progressive members of the Democratic party were ostracized by the established Democratic Party's power structure instead of embracing us as contributing members of our common objectives of social, economic, and political process.

The tone of your post is divisive, polarizing, vulgar, and ultimately destructive. Stop it. With that sort of toxic rhetoric, you manifest the very claim you blame others here - it didn't matter who won in 2016.

Now is the time to put our differences aside as Democrats and eliminate the corruption that infests both parties.
For the love of all that we hold sacred, we need to watch out each other, so you may want to start by removing your knife from my back.

[SunSeeker]

139. Stop with the false equivalence bullshit. Corruption does not "infest both parties."

That is EXACTLY the sort of bullshit that I heard people say to justify not voting for Hillary, and voting for Jill Stein, or Trump. It is you who is putting the knife in the Democratic Party's back.

[SunSeeker]

142. There was no "bullshit" by the Democratic Party in the "Democratic party nominating process."

Hillary won fair and square. Stop refighting the primary. That sort of rhetoric is what Putin's trolls pushed. It only serves to hurt us and divide us.

[R B Garr]

144. "Subverted that process". No. No, that is not what happened.

These self-serving distortions are “vulgar, divisive, polarizing and extremely destructive” (your words). There is nothing subverted about a popular Democrat being popular. There is nothing subverted about liking and supporting Democrats who have shown commitment to our party. That is a false narrative that is designed to breed resentment to benefit one person’s platform. Enough.

[Cha]

153. Thank You, RB, Well said! That post is full of Disingenuous Bitterness..

like I already told him.

Just creepy how alternative "facts" are spread on a Democratic Discussion board.

[R B Garr]

166. Yes, clinging to those lines after all the info has come out

about who was helped to harm Hillary is definitely disingenuous. No doubt the Supreme Court wouldn’t be lost for a generation if Hillary was President. The selective outrage is odd, to say the least.

[Cha]

150. NOPE.. Sorry.. your post is Chock Full of Disingenuous Bitterness.

You're WRONG on all Counts.

The tone of your post is divisive, polarizing, vulgar, and ultimately destructive. Stop it.

I say the same thing right backatcha about your post.

[betsuni]

152. LOL

[JesterCS]

154. I agree 100%, and see what happened

You got attacked. Just like I said happens in my post. Thanks for proving my point.

I'm on you're side on this

[Cha]

156. The poster got called out for his Disingenuous talking points.

[betsuni]

160. So you agree that the "Democratic Party subverted our choice with a corrupt and

predetermined anointment of Clinton." This is incorrect. If it were correct, where is the proof? It is constructive criticism to point out when one is incorrect, not attacking.

[R B Garr]

165. Actually his/her post was the attack and the facts

don’t support it. Look up why the Russian’s supported Trump, Bernie and Stein. That is where the facts are.

[JHan]

161. Here's a bit of history for you:

Dukakis was ahead of Bush by as much as 17 points . ..until Republicans sank their teeth into him.

Sanders was barely attacked by Republicans, but our nominee was the subject of a vicious disinformation campaign, WE KNOW THIS NOW, yet this is your hot take in 2018.

And no, there was no "subversion" of anything. Time to end the mythmaking.

[StevieM]

164. Nothing remotely similar to what you just described happened. The DNC subverted nothing.

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The SDs played no role in Bernie's defeat. HRC beat him by 4 million votes. And had he won the PDs, HRC's SDs would have gone over to him, just like they did for Obama in 2008.

Hillary was not anointed, she was chosen by the voters. And there was nothing preventing Bernie from winning over more voters other than his inability to do so.

[namahage]

169. The SDs played a role in Bernie's defeat

by refusing his demands to switch sides in the face of Hillary's popular vote win.

[JHan]

171. those terrible SD's how dare they follow the will of the pledged delegates.

and the base.

How dare they.

[lapucelle]

172. Wait...what?

"Ranking members of the Democratic party subverted that process."

"The Democratic Party subverted our choice with a corrupt and predetermined anointment."

"Now is the time to...eliminate the corruption that infests both parties."

Talk about divisive, polarizing, destructive, and toxic rhetoric.

[emulatorloo]

178. Lol, Bothsiderism and Putin/Assange agitprop. Sorry y'all don't get to re-enact 2016 in 2018

[R B Garr]

145. Amen! They have handed the Supreme Court over to the

GOP for a generation. How idiotic.

[peggysue2]

157. Which is why the upcoming election . . .

is so critical and why a very hard lesson should have been learned after 2016.

We cannot change the past but we better sure as hell set a course correction in November. Which means all hands on deck supporting our Democratic candidates, everywhere.

It's all on us. There is no Savior out there or knight on a white horse or the perfect candidate to save the country and the future.

It's all on us. It always has been.

[aikoaiko]

173. I'm less concerned about what people say and more concerned with how they vote.

Your mileage may vary.

[Gothmog]

175. I stole this cartoon from JPR

The idiots on jpr hated it which made me smile

[radical noodle]

180. Perfect!

We will not forgive, we will not forget!

[SunSeeker]

185. Nailed it. nt

[Bfd]

177. Thank You. We will never forget who made such statements either.

[SidDithers]

182. +1...

Especially the zombie poster, previously banned from DU, who are back under new names.

Sid

[Scurrilous]

184. ...

[betsuni]

188. K&R