Sat Oct 6, 2018, 03:54 PM

Gothmog (92,013 posts)

Biden cranks up his 2020 machin

I would love to see Biden run and win in 2020 https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/05/joe-biden-2020-decision-869529

FULLERTON, Calif. — By the time Joe Biden decided not to run for president in 2016, many Biden loyalists had become convinced that weak fundraising and his lack of infrastructure in early primary states would have doomed him if he ran.

What a difference now.

One month before the 2020 presidential primary begins in earnest, Biden continues to lead in early polls. He is ramping up his schedule of midterm campaign appearances and, perhaps more significantly, meeting with donors.

This week, before appearing at a rally here Thursday for several House candidates, the former vice president raised money for his American Possibilities PAC at two fundraisers in the Los Angeles area.

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Biden cranks up his 2020 machin (Original post)	Gothmog	Oct 2018	OP
Interesting.	Wellstone ruled	Oct 2018	#1
In light of Kavanaugh, and Biden's role in disgraceful Thomas-Hill hearings	RockRaven	Oct 2018	#2
Agreed.	Tavarious Jackson	Oct 2018	#5
Yup. We will be/are too raw about the Supreme Court. Biden is dog meat.	chimpymustgo	Oct 2018	#16
I think it needs to be Kamala Harris. nt	Tavarious Jackson	Oct 2018	#20
Anyone who wants to run in the primaries go for it	qazplm135	Oct 2018	#7
That's what I think, too.	Vinca	Oct 2018	#8
If he ran with the expressed intent of serving only one term if he won.	Blue_true	Oct 2018	#13
You're exactly right. (n/t)	SMC22307	Oct 2018	#22
Biden's gonna have problems with how he handled Anita Hill.	octoberlib	Oct 2018	#3
Biden is a fantastic choice to embarrass Trump.	IluvPitties	Oct 2018	#4
.	WhiskeyGrinder	Oct 2018	#6
His time was 2016.	Ace Rothstein	Oct 2018	#9
I would not mind at all if Biden runs.	murielm99	Oct 2018	#10
He's the only one that I can see	customerserviceguy	Oct 2018	#11
Given that 2020 will at least partially focus on #metoo issues and	Imperialism Inc.	Oct 2018	#12
I would love to see him run and promise to serve only one term.	Blue_true	Oct 2018	#14
You do realize VPs don't go on to be Prez all the time, right?	TexasBushwhacker	Oct 2018	#15
I am ok with Warren running for Prez.	Blue_true	Oct 2018	#19
He could resign b4 his first term was over.. sighting health.. whatever and if he had a fe VP	Thekaspervote	Oct 2018	#17
Go Joe, Go!	Merry Sunshine	Oct 2018	#18
I like Joe, but, I think his "ship has sailed". nt	ladjf	Oct 2018	#21

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Sat Oct 6, 2018, 04:04 PM

Wellstone ruled (34,661 posts)

1. Interesting.

No comment.

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Sat Oct 6, 2018, 04:09 PM

RockRaven (8,075 posts)

2. In light of Kavanaugh, and Biden's role in disgraceful Thomas-Hill hearings

I think it would be better if Biden did not run. We want as much contrast between Rapeblicans and Dems as possible.

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Response to RockRaven (Reply #2)

Sat Oct 6, 2018, 04:13 PM

Tavarious Jackson (1,595 posts)

5. Agreed.

I watched him question Anita hill and he was disgraceful!

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Response to Tavarious Jackson (Reply #5)

Sat Oct 6, 2018, 05:22 PM

chimpymustgo (12,774 posts)

16. Yup. We will be/are too raw about the Supreme Court. Biden is dog meat.

He should go out with SOME dignity and grace (if that's even possible.)

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Sat Oct 6, 2018, 05:36 PM

Tavarious Jackson (1,595 posts)

20. I think it needs to be Kamala Harris. nt

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Response to RockRaven (Reply #2)

Sat Oct 6, 2018, 04:20 PM

qazplm135 (5,381 posts)

7. Anyone who wants to run in the primaries go for it

someone will win.

I really don't care who that is.

Neither should anyone else. Biden, Bernie, Harris, Booker, Warren. I don't care.

I don't care if it's Susan fucking Sarandon.

Whomever wins, you vote for them in 2020 against Trump.

Period. Done. We win.

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Response to RockRaven (Reply #2)

Sat Oct 6, 2018, 04:22 PM

Vinca (45,682 posts)

8. That's what I think, too.

If Al Franken gets the boot for a comedic photo, Joe Biden can't possibly represent us after the rehashing of the Anita Hill hearing.

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Response to RockRaven (Reply #2)

Sat Oct 6, 2018, 05:02 PM

Blue_true (29,809 posts)

13. If he ran with the expressed intent of serving only one term if he won.

And he picked a woman as VP, a Warren, Harris, Klobuchar, Gillibrand (no apologies to her haters, zero), he would be a slam-dunk to win, unlike McCain, he would have a competent second.

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Response to RockRaven (Reply #2)

Sat Oct 6, 2018, 08:08 PM

SMC22307 (7,372 posts)

22. You're exactly right. (n/t)

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Sat Oct 6, 2018, 04:12 PM

octoberlib (13,678 posts)

3. Biden's gonna have problems with how he handled Anita Hill.

Would rather see someone like Kamala Harris.

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Sat Oct 6, 2018, 04:13 PM

IluvPitties (3,181 posts)

4. Biden is a fantastic choice to embarrass Trump.

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Sat Oct 6, 2018, 04:15 PM

WhiskeyGrinder (10,694 posts)

6. .

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Sat Oct 6, 2018, 04:24 PM

Ace Rothstein (1,969 posts)

9. His time was 2016.

Time to move on.

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Sat Oct 6, 2018, 04:31 PM

murielm99 (27,479 posts)

10. I would not mind at all if Biden runs.

He and Obama made a great team. He has expressed his regrets for how he behaved over the Anita Hill hearings. Has anyone else done that?

I like Joe.

It is early to speculate. We have one month to take back the House. I want to concentrate on that instead of trashing our former Vice President.

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Sat Oct 6, 2018, 04:35 PM

customerserviceguy (25,166 posts)

11. He's the only one that I can see

who can get support from all of the parts that make up the Democratic Party. Yes, he says goofy stuff sometimes, but even when he does, he looks like a Rhodes scholar next to Trump.

We risk having the party torn asunder by having too many 15% candidates. I don't see how any female candidates will do well in SC, whereas I do think that Joe Biden could win the primary here. That may change as different candidates announce, but I don't see how any others who have been mentioned will have a chance here. I would expect President Obama to back Biden up, and that will help him with African-Americans in SC.

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Sat Oct 6, 2018, 04:37 PM

Imperialism Inc. (2,471 posts)

12. Given that 2020 will at least partially focus on #metoo issues and

be driven by the righteous anger of women, I think Joe is a bad choice. Whatever he may have done for women in his career he doesn't appear to have absorbed appropriate behavior in his own actions. I hate posting this, and the source is no doubt not someone on our side, but they also didn't invent the clips.

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Sat Oct 6, 2018, 05:07 PM

Blue_true (29,809 posts)

14. I would love to see him run and promise to serve only one term.

And state upfront that he will pick a competent female VP. That serves two purposes in my mind. I think that he is the only democrat that can ironclad beat a moralsless scoundrel like Trump, and we elect a female VP. I have become convinced that the only way that we will get a female President is if she serves as a VP under a competent President.

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Sat Oct 6, 2018, 05:15 PM

TexasBushwhacker (16,518 posts)

15. You do realize VPs don't go on to be Prez all the time, right?

It's hardly a slam dunk because they have to carry any baggage from the President they served with, but get little credit for anything good that happened. Just ask Humphrey, Mondale, and Gore. I'd rather Warren just run.

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Response to TexasBushwhacker (Reply #15)

Sat Oct 6, 2018, 05:28 PM

Blue_true (29,809 posts)

19. I am ok with Warren running for Prez.

If you look back at our last two Dem Presidents, their seconds or high official in the Admin was well positioned to win, but got tripped up by people claiming to have similar values.

But, I like Warren, she has a ton of energy and is sharp witted. The only thing that I think she need to work on is the breathing draw that she starts taking when she gets on a roll when speaking.

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Sat Oct 6, 2018, 05:23 PM

Thekaspervote (17,683 posts)

17. He could resign b4 his first term was over.. sighting health.. whatever and if he had a fe VP

The transition might work. Thoughts anyone?

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Sat Oct 6, 2018, 05:28 PM

Merry Sunshine (12 posts)

18. Go Joe, Go!

A well liked, vice-president of an extremely successful administration, elder statesman. Nobody's perfect but he can beat the orange Hitler with the Mid-West union voters.

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Sat Oct 6, 2018, 08:06 PM

ladjf (17,320 posts)

21. I like Joe, but, I think his "ship has sailed". nt

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