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LBM20

(1,580 posts)
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 07:33 AM Oct 2018

Talking about impeachment of Trump or Kav only revs up the R base. We need to win next month.

We need to take the rage over Trump, Kavanaugh, McConnell etc. to the voting booth. We need to win next month and take back the House, the Senate if we can, and R seats at every level everywhere.

Talking about impeachment only fires up the R base and makes them want to turn out. It only gives them a key issue to energize around.

Why do that? No one is going get removed from office without 2/3 of the Senate. NEVER GONNA HAPPEN.

So let's make calls, knock doors, put up signs, make donations, and talk about all the MANY issues we need to tell voters about to get Dems elected such as healthcare, higher wages, etc.

We need to WIN NEXT MONTH! Hate Trump? Hate Kavanaugh? Hate McConnell?

THEN LET'S BEAT THEM AT THE VOTING BOOTH!

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greymattermom

(5,751 posts)
1. Let's just find out the truth.
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 07:36 AM
Oct 2018

About Kav's role in other things including Bush v. Gore, about Trump's finances, about pay to play in the White House. I don't think tax cheats are popular, for example.

 

LBM20

(1,580 posts)
3. If we win elections WE can appoint judges. Remember the STATE level. Governors appoint judges too.
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 07:41 AM
Oct 2018

It is all about WINNING ELECTIONS. Power begets power. No defeatist attitudes. That gets us nowhere.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
6. Yep.
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 07:51 AM
Oct 2018

The economy cost are rising. People are feeling insecure. Many have to work more than one job. No healthcare.

Chickensoup

(650 posts)
7. I said so many times we need to do both
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 08:25 AM
Oct 2018

Not one or the other.
In all of our history this president
and his administration are the most
corrupt, most hateful. They have
hurt our world standing, the air we breath
, the food we eat, the water we drink
Consumer protection is nearly gone,
Health car for millions of Americans
Who need it is soon to be a thing
Of the past. They gave tax break to
The wealthy and the poor and middle
Class are paying for it. Soon the deficit
will be so large they will start cutting
entitlements. Our president is tax evader
for millions of dollars. He attacks and
Demean women, Hispanics, African Americans, gay and lesbian ...
I can go on and on. So if we vote and
resist and march and boycott then
Winning is ours.
What is at stake if far greater and deeper
Than just an election.
We fight terrorism because they hate
our way of life. The extreme right wing
The bannonites also hate our way of life
and are willing to destroy our America
To build theirs on based on hate, fear and division.
To that end they are taking no prisoners.
Votes yes, energetic unashamed
Resistance also yes.

Socal31

(2,484 posts)
8. I am of the opinion that after next month, the (R)s will actually want Trump impeached + convicted.
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 08:33 AM
Oct 2018

They got exactly what they wanted out of him, with a stacked SCOTUS and larger federal judiciary ready to shape this country for years.

They would absolutely love Pence to establish himself for 2 years and be the "incumbent" in 2020.

 

LBM20

(1,580 posts)
10. No because that would be such a tremendous scandal they know no R would have ANY chance in 2020.
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 10:02 AM
Oct 2018

Socal31

(2,484 posts)
11. The seeds have been planted already. We will own the House, which could impeach.
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 10:25 AM
Oct 2018

Even if the Senate doesn't convict, the cabinet could move on the 25th, which was already floated in the "anonymous" op-ed. I find it impossible that the identity of that person is unknown, yet nobody lost their job.

Or Mueller could spare Don Jr. and his son-in-law if he agrees to resign.

My point is that it could happen in more than one way. And even if it upsets the Trumpistaners, they would surely never vote for a Democrat. The 37% that support him no matter what crazy shit he does are evangelicals. And Mike Pence is their dream President.

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