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SCantiGOP

(13,869 posts)
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 04:59 PM Oct 2018

If ya'll like Lindsey,

then you're going to love Nikki.
I have been involved in SC politics since the 70s, and was hearing two weeks ago that she would resign before the end of the year.
A lot of speculation that Lindsey will move into the AG office, and she will of course be appointed to serve out his term and then run for re-election in 2020, or possibly be on the ticket if Trump doesn't run. In any event, she is looking at positioning herself for a Presidential run in 2024.

NIKKI HALEY IS DONALD TRUMP IN A DRESS WITH EXPERIENCE, A VOCABULARY AND AN ADDITIONAL 50 IQ POINTS.

She is dangerous because she seems so rational and pleasant. She was by far the most right-wing Governor we have ever had, and understands how to play the political game and eviscerate her opponents while smiling the whole time and saying "Well, bless his heart."

Do not underestimate her cunning or her ambition.

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If ya'll like Lindsey, (Original Post) SCantiGOP Oct 2018 OP
Yea, I hear you. I do not subscribe to the moderate label. Who are these moderates that deny BeckyDem Oct 2018 #1
What makes Nikki bad SCantiGOP Oct 2018 #6
I believe you. Good analysis. BeckyDem Oct 2018 #7
The problem is that there aren't enough conservatives that would vote for a female president budkin Oct 2018 #2
Oh yes they will. Given the right one pangaia Oct 2018 #13
True dat. Jesus don't want no wommen folk runnin' stuff. 3Hotdogs Oct 2018 #14
They will do whatever they are told to do. Pacifist Patriot Oct 2018 #21
An additional 50 IQ points? joshdawg Oct 2018 #3
She did get beyond the "half Indian" stigma to win the governorship DFW Oct 2018 #4
I am honored to say that I have known these two giants pretty well over the years SCantiGOP Oct 2018 #8
I first met Hollings in 1967 when I was 15. Riley only about 10 years ago DFW Oct 2018 #9
What is her birth name? Randhawa saidsimplesimon Oct 2018 #17
Her parents still dress in traditional Indian garb SCantiGOP Oct 2018 #19
Thanks for the info. Her impression far exceeds that of most gop morons. lindysalsagal Oct 2018 #5
She denies a run, but could be urged to be a presidential candidate to get Republican women back. ancianita Oct 2018 #10
She could be looking for a VP run too. BigmanPigman Oct 2018 #12
Possibly that, though she's neither acquainted with nor experienced in working with the Senate. ancianita Oct 2018 #18
Mueller, please. Please help our country. Throw these criminals behind bars! ffr Oct 2018 #11
I agree. When I first saw her I thought Republicans would vote for her... CaptainTruth Oct 2018 #15
Tweety thinks she's the next JFK flamingdem Oct 2018 #16
Putting Lipstick and a pretty face on Cruel Conservative Tax Cuts sagesnow Oct 2018 #20
Also, I think that after leaving AG... Dopers_Greed Oct 2018 #22

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
1. Yea, I hear you. I do not subscribe to the moderate label. Who are these moderates that deny
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 05:05 PM
Oct 2018

climate change? Moderates in the con party is a myth, policy by policy majority of them have no conscience. Just look at their votes, overall. Why do people get all excited about them when they occasionally do the right thing?

SCantiGOP

(13,869 posts)
6. What makes Nikki bad
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 06:00 PM
Oct 2018

is that she knows better, but can't let on because she has to get the SC GOP to support her.
She was one of 4 candidates running for Gov in 2010 and was generally thought to be in fourth place. Then Sarah Palin paid a visit to endorse her and she ended up winning fairly easily. She never forgot that "Tea Party-low information voter" lesson.

budkin

(6,699 posts)
2. The problem is that there aren't enough conservatives that would vote for a female president
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 05:07 PM
Oct 2018

Since their basic belief is that women should be subservient.

DFW

(54,349 posts)
4. She did get beyond the "half Indian" stigma to win the governorship
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 05:58 PM
Oct 2018

That's more than even Phil Lader accomplished, and he has 50 IQ points on Nikki Haley.
Of course, by then, a grey squirrel could have won the governorship of South Carolina in the general election as long as they had an "R" in front of their name.

If you've been around SC that long, did you know Fritz Hollings or Dick and Tunky Riley?

SCantiGOP

(13,869 posts)
8. I am honored to say that I have known these two giants pretty well over the years
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 06:21 PM
Oct 2018

Dick Riley is the model of what a politician should be. He was in it for all the right reasons.

And Fritz perfected the model of "4 years a liberal, then 2 years hard to the right to get re-elected." Worked well for 40 years back when we had a lot of progressive/populist politicians in the South.
You may recall the story of him asking that his name be taken off of the federal judicial center in Charleston so it could be renamed for Judge J Waites Waring. As a Federal Judge in the 50s, he had ended white-only primaries in SC, and wrote a famous dissent in a desegregation case that became a major part of the Brown vs Board of Education case. He faced death threats, and had his home attacked as a result.

My favorite personal story was attending a social event at the Heritage Golf tournament on Hilton Head years ago. Fritz and Strom Thurmond were both there, and were asked to make comments. Fritz, being the Junior Senator, spoke first while Strom sat on the stage and appeared to go to sleep (he was only about 90 then). Fritz mentioned that he was the "most senior junior Senator in history." Without even looking up, Strom said, in his famous drawl, "Get used to it, Fritz."

I mentioned that I had been involved in politics since the 70s. My first real activity was in 1968 as chairman of my County Young Republicans group, selling "Help Strom elect Nixon" stickers in high school to raise money.
Before I get a lifetime ban here, I then left home and went to college, where I became involved in the anti-war movement and - to my Daddy's shame - worked for McGovern in 1972. Been blue in a red state since then.

DFW

(54,349 posts)
9. I first met Hollings in 1967 when I was 15. Riley only about 10 years ago
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 06:26 PM
Oct 2018

Before 2000, I had only set foot in SC once, I think, so I don't know either of them well. Phil Lader I do know well, but he probably arrived too late on the political scene to have had a chance at winning the governor's race. I think he did an admirable job as our ambassador to the UK under Clinton.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
17. What is her birth name? Randhawa
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 08:15 PM
Oct 2018

Do Hindus from India have a special immigration status? Would they qualify under the current restrictions? "Nikki" was born in the US. Her parents were immigrants.

She has accomplished much to be admired. I just don't have any idea where she puts her "marker in the sand". Is she proud of her heritage, what does she bring to the table, what is her vision for our future?

I'm going low, forgive me.

SCantiGOP

(13,869 posts)
19. Her parents still dress in traditional Indian garb
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 08:38 PM
Oct 2018

and speak limited English. Nikki was born in the US, but you never saw her parents until the night she won the Governor's race.

An especially vile redneck Senator referred to her when she was running for Gov as a "raghead like Obama". She got a lot of sympathy because of that, and it caused a woman to run against the guy and beat him in the District he had represented for about 10 years.
Nikki is now a Methodist, or whatever you want her to be.

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
10. She denies a run, but could be urged to be a presidential candidate to get Republican women back.
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 07:42 PM
Oct 2018

She's token and pro-right enough to not be subverted by Republican leadership.

But then, she's a woman. There's that reality.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
12. She could be looking for a VP run too.
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 07:47 PM
Oct 2018

That way they get the GOP women and she is a better politician than Sarah Palin could ever hope to be.

CaptainTruth

(6,588 posts)
15. I agree. When I first saw her I thought Republicans would vote for her...
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 08:03 PM
Oct 2018

...in droves.

If conservatives want to "take back the Republican party" they'll do it by rallying around someone like her, & honestly, I think she would appeal to a lot of voters. It would also be a good strategic move for the GOP, considering how many women they've lost.

Out of all the potential GOP POTUS candidates I can think of, I think she would be the hardest to beat.

sagesnow

(2,824 posts)
20. Putting Lipstick and a pretty face on Cruel Conservative Tax Cuts
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 02:42 PM
Oct 2018

seems to be the latest phase in the Republican playbook. We are seeing the same type of tactics here in Iowa with Gov. Kim Reynolds. Hope people see through their relentless drive to cut insurance, workers pensions and the civil rights of citizens everywhere.

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
22. Also, I think that after leaving AG...
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 09:13 AM
Oct 2018

Sessions will run against Doug Jones for his former Senate seat in 2020.

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