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The Turkish government has told U.S. officials that it has audio and video recordings that prove Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi was killed inside the Saudi consulate in Istanbul this month, according to U.S. and Turkish officials.
The recordings show that a Saudi security team detained Khashoggi in the consulate after he walked in Oct. 2 to obtain an official document before his upcoming wedding, then killed him and dismembered his body, the officials said.
The audio recording in particular provides some of the most persuasive and gruesome evidence that the Saudi team is responsible for Khashoggis death, the officials said.
This could turn into a big deal, depending on who does what with it.
2naSalit
(86,393 posts)LenaBaby61
(6,973 posts)tRumps not going to pay a price for this
Just like he's not gonna pay a big price for "rallying" during deadly hurricane Michael, or for much of anything insane, reckless or lawless that he does.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)heinous outrageous act. All out war is too good for these scumbags!
Initech
(100,043 posts)Seeing the uber wealthy Arab sheiks live in poverty like those who suffer under them would be a just punishment!
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GusBob
(7,286 posts)"What happened is a terrible thing, assuming that happened " huh? What the fuck does that mean?
"I mean, maybe we'll be pleasantly surprised, but somehow I tend to doubt it"
Somehow? Jesus this guy is stupid!
Igel
(35,282 posts)For all the "incredibly high and well-placed people say", what they're saying is, "We were told that this is what's on the tapes. By who? By the Turks. But while we're telling you that we absolutely know what's on the tapes, we're really just trusting the Turks' portrayal. No word if we'll ever actually see the tapes. What? You doubt that the Turks speak only truth?"
dawg day
(7,947 posts)After all, the Access Hollywood tape!
Lester Holt interview!
All FAKE!
David__77
(23,340 posts)Its a skill. His non-answers dont occur to me as crude ones given by politicians, instead as a bit bumbling. I think they effectively achieve their purpose with many people.
GusBob
(7,286 posts)But to say something like : "somehow, I tend to doubt it" is just, I don't know, being stupid on purpose. Or purposely vague
I think he saw/heard the evidence himself, or our intelligence agencies have and told him about it, and he is trying to cast dispersions and muddy the waters to protect 110 billion arms deal
Grasswire2
(13,565 posts)....and depending on what Jared might have had to do with not warning him.
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)When our intel agencies receive this kind of advance knowledge, it is their MORAL OBLIGATION to warn the target.
FFS, no less than the FBI warned John Gotti that he was being set up for a hit by another Family.
How did they NOT warn this man ?
Grasswire2
(13,565 posts)Something about the possibility that Jared gave the Saudi prince a list of his enemies and Koshoggi was on that list. OR.....it might have been that the Saudi prince gave Jared a list of HIS enemies and Koshoggi was on it.
Anyone have the details of this?
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)Gave the Saudis classified material about their enemies, and the Crown Prince gave Jared enough cash to bail him out on the upcoming debt on the property at 666 Fifth avenue.
I just don't understand how an Orthodox Jew would collude with the Wahabi Saudis, who would wipe Israel off the map in a nano.
I guess money really does grease all wheels. How reprehensible.
Grasswire2
(13,565 posts)The business when Jared went suddenly there for a couple of days and many enemies of the Crown Prince were what -- deposed?
The fact that Saudis buy Trump real estate.
That bidness with the Yemen blockade and Jared's alleged involvement.
Something's really dirty.
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)I fear that when all is revealed, we will find out the US Advisers (Kirchner) sold out this journalist to the Saudis so that they could silence him, and remove his name from the enemies list. I just don't think anyone thought that the Saudis would do the unprecedented and kill him on Embassy grounds, then dismember him and remove him from the building.
This - depending on how Erdogan handles it - could become a real flash point over there. The tensions between the prinicipals are already at an all time high. Powder keg tense.
Grasswire2
(13,565 posts)Last week even the State Dept has been warning against travel there. Before this mess.
womanofthehills
(8,667 posts)of getting the info. Also, Turkey now saying he was tortured.
lostnfound
(16,162 posts)As Chris Hayess guest just pointed out, this is happening while our president makes statements about the media being the enemy of the people.
dalton99a
(81,406 posts)Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)This man is dead.
Tavarious Jackson
(1,595 posts)This has been my mail concern for the last week. Trump is destroying who we are as a nation
Kajun Gal
(1,907 posts)Satch59
(1,353 posts)Is this why Sen Murphy is putting out a bill tomorrow to heavily sanction or stop arms deals?
If so, Trump's comments are telling along with being heartless...of course.
This is so brutal...
Kajun Gal
(1,907 posts)Dread Pirate Roberts
(1,896 posts)He would probably like to know how they did it so he can try the same thing here.
Judi Lynn
(160,483 posts)DesertRat
(27,995 posts)You can hear his voice and the voices of men speaking Arabic...You can hear how he was interrogated, tortured and then murdered."
Baitball Blogger
(46,684 posts)Grasswire2
(13,565 posts)...the Saudis were paying him for real estate? How he couldn't diss them because of that lucrative relationship?
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)2. The claims are likely true.
1+2 = 3. The Russians, Turks, and Saudies are working together to rip apart our Democracy.
They get to brutally control their own and also tear apart the greatest threat to their ability to brutally control their own.
Xolodno
(6,384 posts)The Turks, Saudis and Iranians are not friends. With that said...
This was a chance for Turkey to stick it to the Saudi's and the USA. Why the USA? Our refusal to hand over a cleric and our sanctions on Turkey. And who knows, Erdogan was warned by Moscow about a coup attempt in the works, who wants to bet the USA was implicated in some way, anywhere from being a sponsor to knowing about it and refusing to pass on the information.
And true, the Turks haven't exactly done us any favors, they are a cold war relic. Accepted into NATO for the only purpose that Turkey didn't want to become a Satellite State, along with having a dire history with the Russian and Ottoman Empire's, and we wanted another strategic border region with the Soviet Union. If anything, more likely to see war break out between two NATO members, Turkey and Greece.
Bottom line, Ankara just made us look really bad in the international community. We are nation that trumpets free press...and ain't doing jack shit, and possibly helped, get a journalist killed because of his outspoken opinions. Our "President's" response, no sanctions because;
1. Military Arms deal that benefits the USA...particularly red states.
2. It's becoming obvious, Saudi's bail out Kushner, he supplies them a hit list.
This will be obvious to the rest of the world....and there goes our credibility, yet again. The "worlds greatest democracy" is a corrupt sham.
And what scares me, Erdogan, Putin, et. al. may actually be right about that.
roamer65
(36,744 posts)This will inflame the situation greatly.
DFW
(54,302 posts)The Turks have tapes from INSIDE another country's embassy on their soil?
If they are taping goings on inside the Saudi embassy, I have news for you: they are taping our embassy, the Russian embassy, and they embassy of every European country as well.
womanofthehills
(8,667 posts)He said there is no actual deal.
There was a projected deal with Obama but only a small percentage of that deal ever went thru.
?Verified account @MalcolmNance
7h7 hours ago
BIGGER STORY: US Intelligence has a special FLASH communications reporting network designed to inform President of critical intelligence within 5 minutes of recognition. If @washingtonpost reports are right Trumps been lying to us about Kashoggi since Day One.
?Verified account @MalcolmNance
HOLY COW! Turks had the consulate wired & heard the murder. @washingtonpost : Turks tell U.S. officials they have audio and video recordings that support conclusion Khashoggi was killed.
Karen Attiah
?Verified account @KarenAttiah
6h6 hours ago
You can hear his voice and the voices of men speaking Arabic, this person said. You can hear how he was interrogated, tortured and then murdered. Turks tell U.S. officials they have audio and video recordings of #Khashoggi's killing: https://wapo.st/2IVosPn?tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.1dcef5c85f82 #JusticeForJamal