It's hard to believe but we must accept the truth. It's no longer Democrats vs Republicans.

[shockey80]

Its democracy vs fascism and it's staring us right in our face. We are in danger and we must recognize it and call it out. We are at war, a war of ideas. It is a war that over 400,000 Americans fought and died for in the 1940s.

Voter suppression and rigging elections is an act of fascism.

Trying to destroy the free press and replacing it with a government run propaganda press (Fox News) is an act of fascism.

Trying to take over and control the entire justice department, the courts is an act of fascism.

Corporate control is a form of fascism.

The Trump voters are civic and history imbeciles. Most of them do not know history. They do not know how democracy works and they cannot recognize fascism. Some of them know fascism because thats what they want. Most of them are following fascism and don't even know it. It is very dangerous.

Whats happening here is happening in countries around the world. It's starting to rhyme with the 1930s.

The 2018, 2020 elections are a fight, a war against fascism. We have to recognize the truth as unbelievable as it is.

When the democrats take control of the house they must take action. Some Tea Party members of the house in my opinion are fascists. They need to be called in front of the ethics committee. They have broke their oath of office and committed crimes.
It must be exposed to the American people. Trump must be removed before it is to late.

In my humble opinion I believe we are on a path to world war. There is still time to get off that path, but time is getting short.

[LAS14]

1. That's why we need to encourage left-out Republicans...

... whenever we bump into them. A healthy two-party system is our only hope. I don't know how it's going to happen, since the current Republican party seems to have no direction left but spiraling downward. Ideas?

[olegramps]

21. I have been posting the 14 Characteristics of Fascism on this board for years.

They were first published in 2003. This not a new development, but one that has been going on for over forty years. They describe the Republican Party's goal without exception.

[Amimnoch]

28. LOL, me too!!

We’re seeing all 14 of 14 live, in action.

One of my own more recent attempts to get everyone to see that calling what we’re seeing Fascist and Fascism ISN’T the hyperbolic tones of election cycles past.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=11226177

[YOHABLO]

29. I say print these out, post them on every community board you can find .. Starbucks etc..

RESIST

[rainy]

2. This is why

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/10/17/heart-global-woes-157-worlds-200-richest-entities-are-now-corporations-not?cd-origin=rss&utm_term=At%20the%20Heart%20of%20Global%20Woes%2C%20157%20of%20World%27s%20200%20Richest%20Entities%20Are%20Now%20Corporations%2C%20Not%20Governments&utm_campaign=Daily%20Newsletter%20-%20During%20Fundraiser%20-%20WITH%20Fundraising%20Message&utm_content=email&utm_source=Act-On+Software&utm_medium=email&cm_mmc=Act-On%20Software-_-email-_-At%20the%20Heart%20of%20Our%20Woes%2C%20Corporations%20More%20Powerful%20Than%20Governments%20%7C%20News%20%2526%20Views-_-At%20the%20Heart%20of%20Global%20Woes%2C%20157%20of%20World%27s%20200%20Richest%20Entities%20Are%20Now%20Corporations%2C%20Not%20Governments

[shockey80]

3. One more thought,

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The murder of the journalist in Turkey and the coverup that is taking place is a big warning. Fascism has been emboldened. It is spreading like a cancer.

[shockey80]

4. It took me two years to accept this truth.

I saw all the signs but thought no way this will happen. This is America something will stop it.

What happened recently forced me to recognize the truth.

A journalist was murdered and the imposter president is helping them cover it up. He basically said, We will let the murderer investigate the murder. Are you fucking kidding me.

What they are doing to the Indians in North Dakota is flat out evil. The voter suppression in Georgia, people pulled off a bus on the way to the polls. The supreme court pick. I could go on and on but I have seen enough. We are in danger.

[violetpastille]

5. Agree

Let's Be Ready. (For anything)

Take care of our health. Don't get so high or drunk that we will be caught unaware. Mind our speech in public and our thoughts in private.

And just in case: If tuna or peanut butter goes on sale, buy!

[The Liberal Lion]

7. What you said here is sound advice indeed, especially about minding your speech in public.

Trust few, and even with those folks be leery.

[The Liberal Lion]

6. Everything about now reminds me of 1930's Germany

IMHO, it's already too late. The best you can do is prepare for what has been at least clear to me since 1/20/2017. I've been pooh-pahed here as a reactionary and a negative Nellie. That's fine. But I'm ready for the inevitable, are you?

[DownriverDem]

8. I get your point

However I'm a proud member of the Democratic Party. I'm an elected precinct delegate for where I vote in Michigan. For me it's Democrats v repub fascism. Until the repubs are no longer, I will fight them.

[Mr.Bill]

9. And don't forget, if the world rises up again in a great war against fascism,

and we are seen as one of the fascist countries, we will be destroyed just like the last fascist uprising.
If we do nothing, we are the Germans who said they didn't know about the ovens in the camps.

[Moostache]

14. Except for two things...

1) We have an arsenal of nuclear weapons that makes defeating the United States into unconditional surrender is impossible.

2) Trump cannot wait to set them off...

If there is another world war brewing, it will be the last for Homo Sapiens in its current role as planetary apex species...

[Haggis for Breakfast]

32. Yes, trump is chomping at the bit

to unleash nuclear weapons. If trump gives the Saudis a pass on the Kashoggi murder - which it looks like he will - and he gets away with it, he will think that he can do anything and get away with it.

I have been worried that he will find any reason to declare martial law before the elections, just to shut them down and seize power.



"Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you." Joseph Heller, author of "Catch 22."

[KPN]

45. Exactly. American journalists, dissident

leaders and loyal to the Constitution Justice/law enforcement officials will be next

[Turin_C3PO]

10. Agree wholeheartedly.

I used to be one of the voices on the Left urging restraint when calling the Bush regime “fascist”. As bad as they were, calling them fascist was an exaggeration.

Not so with this bunch. They’re doing everything a fascist government would do. The only thing holding them back are our increasingly weak institutions and Constitution.

Democratic control of, at least, the House is imperative for our survival as the USA we all recognize.

[neohippie]

11. The oligarchs coup

We have evidence that not only did Putin/Russia help Trump win but so did Israel, the Saudis it appears to be a coup of US democracy by powerful international forces


The Saudis

Link to tweet

Israel

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/israeli-firm-partnered-with-cambridge-analytica-to-win-us-government-contracts-2018-05-22


Russia, Cambridge Analytica, The Mercer's and so on...

Another story about manipulation of social media


https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-firm-proposed-social-media-manipulation-campaign-for-trump-report/


A

n Israeli firm under investigation by the FBI was approached by a senior official from Donald Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign to use social media manipulation on Trump’s behalf and against his rivals, including by creating thousands of fake online identities, according to a report Monday.

Psy-Group created several secretive proposals for the Trump campaign at the behest of Rick Gates, who has since pleaded guilty and offered to cooperate with the FBI probe into foreign meddling in the US election, The New York Times reported.

According to the report, Psy-Group, which employed former Israeli intelligence officers before undergoing liquidation, offered to engineer campaigns in support of Trump using social media manipulation against both Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, and Republican Senator Ted Cruz, whom the campaign feared could attempt to push an insurgent nomination effort at the Republican Convention in Cleveland.

[Separation]

27. Excellent point!

Its also coming out that the Isreali software has been screwing around down in Mexico. Guess who was in charge of advising the company that got caught using the software? Former General Flynn

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israeli-spyware-firm-embroiled-in-mexico-mobile-hacking-scandal-flynn-was-its-adviser-1.5486198

[BlancheSplanchnik]

36. Saving to read later. n/t

[Le Gaucher]

12. But I was talking to a WW II vet in my town who is voting straight line Republican...

go figure !

[BigGermanGuy]

13. those of us who have been paying attention

have always believed this.

[jalan48]

15. Yep. This didn't just happen. It's been building for decades.

[Meowmee]

16. Yes agree

Time to start really fighting it or it’s over for good

[Saviolo]

17. Cody Johnston has a great precis of the creeping (now running) fascism:

It's across four videos from his Some More News YouTube channel:

[BlancheSplanchnik]

33. Thanks!

Those links look interesting. And informative.

[demigoddess]

18. hate to admit it, but it sure looks like it.

[ananda]

19. It's been that way for me since Bush was illegitimately selected.

nt

[BlueJac]

20. k&R

[Wounded Bear]

22. K & R...for truth...nt

[INdemo]

23. You are exactly right..One of the first if not the first act by Hitler

was to stack the High Court with Judges that would uphold his agenda.
Hitler banned all Newspapers that did not agree with his actions and in fact more or less required those to praise his actions. Oh there is much more and if you listen to Trump's speeches there is definitely similarities in the tone. (one of Trumps ex-wives said that Trump kept a book of Hitler's Speeches in a cabinet by his bed)
It is truly Democracy and the Constitution vs Fascism.Republicans don't care if we have a Free Constitutional Democracy as long as they can maintain their wealth and even increase it.

This is what happen in 1930's Germany

I fear that my/our Grandchildren will not have the same freedoms that we as Baby Boomers enjoyed.

[Hortensis]

24. Regarding world war and the grave dangers of our

nation falling under control of the type of people currently in power, everyone should read

The Authoritarians, by Bob Altemeyer
https://www.theauthoritarians.org/

This book is a lay version of a seminal scholarly study of these people that is available FREE for download because the author felt it was and is critically important for people to understand. It's extremely readable and surprisingly enjoyable for what has become something of a horror story.

Many studies, most hidden behind heavily technical jargon on subscription sites to avoid attack and suppression, have followed and all have further developed and enlarged on this base research. It's findings have never been disproved and are still extremely timely.

In August, Dr. Altemeyer added a new essay to the site linked, "Why Do Trump’s Supporters Stand by Him, No Matter What?" In an era when worst fears are becoming realized, his writing is more sober than before.

Regarding WWIII, pay attention in the book to what authoritarians did when given a chance to "rule the world." In an era of weapons of mass destruction and most of 7 billion people cannot survive without complex support systems, we are in far graver dangerthan we realize.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

35. I read the authoritarians quite a while ago, but I didn't know about the addition.

I’ll definitely have to check it.

Or maybe I don’t want to know....

[Hortensis]

41. :) I've read it again since Trump ran, and while watching what's

happening on the right, and found it even more interesting because it explains so much.

John Dean's taken what he's learned from these studies and applied them to people and events in all the Republican administrations during and since Nixon, and those are very interesting reads also. These people are what went wrong in Nixon's WH, and their insidious activities and changes during Bush II's administration were a forerunner to what's being done during Trump's.

They can't govern their way out of a paper bag but they can definitely destroy nations.

[coeur_de_lion]

25. Good vs. Evil

[Cha]

26. I've "faced it" for quite awhile now.

[Scruffy1]

30. This has always been the fight.

One reason I don't watch MSM is they refuse to call fascists what they are. I never got the "conservative level.

[Duppers]

31. Recommend this whole thread.

Great comments and links above. 👍

[BlancheSplanchnik]

34. I was seeing a lot of fascist signs back with bush. After this post, though... wow...

shaking my head...

President Obama was a blessed break from the runaway train...now, though, the pukes’ game has been further honed, and now we can see they are and have been in league with global forces for many years.

Damn.

[rwsanders]

37. It's been that way from the beginning...

Brown-nosers, bootlickers, lapdogs, sycophants, royalists for the 1%, have been there all along.

[yuiyoshida]

38. Preach it!

[amywalk]

39. Even if we take back the House, we have to have the balls

to actually do something about and with it. They must investigate and punish Trump and all his minions or it means nothing. We have to be just as ruthless, if not more so. (Ik that seems impossible). Having power, but not using it, puts us back into the halcyon days of the Obama administration. While it was a fairly, drama-free 8 years, he missed a lot of opportunities because he wanted to be liked and/or bipartisan. #NoMoreMrNiceGuy

[ProfessorPlum]

42. agree

victory for the sake of victory won't help us

[UCmeNdc]

40. Agree 100%

[lark]

43. Repugs arae framing this the same, but calling us fascists

I got into a contentious conversation with a poster on WaPo claiming that left wingers are fascists. I reminded him that Hitler totally supported large corporations while taking away everyone else's rights, just like his repug party does. He ended regulations on them, just like his party does and uses the party to torture and kill minorities, just like his party. Fascists are definitely ring wingers, so now like drumpf, they are accusing us of the tactics they use and even trying to call us by their names, fascists.

[Nitram]

44. I'm not sure there's is a distinction anymore between fascism and Republicans.

[kentuck]

46. Don't Vote for your Party - Vote for your Country

They have to know.

There is a difference between a demagogue and a patriot.

Donald Trump is not a Republican or a Democrat. Donald Trump is whatever best serves his personal interest. Call it whatever you like.