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rownesheck

(2,343 posts)
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 08:12 PM Oct 2018

Wow. Just wow.

just finished watching the cnn town hall with beto. Listening to him speak brings tears to my eyes. I'm a 42 year old man, but there is just something about him. It's Obamaesque. There is hope for our future. Not just in Texas, but i believe nationwide. I know he said he has no plans for running for prez, but i believe it's inevitable. Right now, i feel damn proud to be a Texan. It's been a long time since I've been able to say that.

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Wow. Just wow. (Original Post) rownesheck Oct 2018 OP
I sure hope he wins... lapfog_1 Oct 2018 #1
Watched as well. NanceGreggs Oct 2018 #2
And to boot, he's got a steel trap for a mind, and quick w/ his wit. Good qualities that make a ... SWBTATTReg Oct 2018 #18
Listened to part of it on the way home and he was impressive... TreasonousBastard Oct 2018 #3
CNN is repeating it at Midnight EST. I'm recording it because my husband was recording a couple of politicaljunkie41910 Oct 2018 #22
"Tweety Interrupting His Guest." Cheviteau Oct 2018 #52
I thought Beto was very good Raven123 Oct 2018 #4
I said it before he needs to move LostinRed Oct 2018 #5
Maybe he will surprise us! hostalover Oct 2018 #6
Texas has elected him three times. blogslut Oct 2018 #7
His district elected him TexasBushwhacker Oct 2018 #28
It is this is true. blogslut Oct 2018 #30
Definitely want him to stay n/t TexasBushwhacker Oct 2018 #42
I agree. After he gets elected he needs to move to DC. grantcart Oct 2018 #9
He will have to aeromanKC Oct 2018 #24
I am with you!!!! sheshe2 Oct 2018 #27
Texas was solid blue before KKKarl Rove'd the state WhiteTara Oct 2018 #54
If TX doesn't elect him this time, I would like to see him move. Hortensis Oct 2018 #55
Yep! I just remarked elsewhere that he might be considered a "white Barack Obama". George II Oct 2018 #8
Please please please please please... SunSeeker Oct 2018 #10
I'll have to look that up on Youtube or something. nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #11
Link mahina Oct 2018 #50
Thanks! O'Rourke is a tall drink o' water, isn't he? Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #61
You bet! mahina Oct 2018 #62
I listened to the first 1/2 hour on Sat CNN. JDC Oct 2018 #12
I think Beto is going to win lunatica Oct 2018 #13
Just drove to visit my sister today in Dallas suburb onetexan Oct 2018 #46
It may be as simple as Cruz being inconsistent about Trump lunatica Oct 2018 #47
anecdotal, but I drove around our neighborhood yesterday KatyMan Oct 2018 #57
Wow thats very encouraging onetexan Oct 2018 #70
He's got "it" hibbing Oct 2018 #14
I think Cambridge Analytical explains it catrose Oct 2018 #44
Kick for Beto!! Cha Oct 2018 #15
Unfortunately ..... flying-skeleton Oct 2018 #16
No, we don't. hurl Oct 2018 #20
I was under the impression that Texas was gerrymandered to hell and back. VOX Oct 2018 #23
Right - no question. hurl Oct 2018 #32
Good to know. VOX Oct 2018 #35
Ha ha, TexasTowelie Oct 2018 #45
This is a state wide race. Gerrymandering not possible. GulfCoast66 Oct 2018 #33
That completely slipped my mind. I was thrown off by the article attached below... VOX Oct 2018 #37
Some districts are pretty badly gerrymandered. blogslut Oct 2018 #34
Keep pushing, there's a Blue Texas out there somewhere... VOX Oct 2018 #40
Well, our State Flower is the BLUEBONNET, note: not red MagickMuffin Oct 2018 #69
He's great! If I were still in Texas, I'd proudly vote for him. SammyWinstonJack Oct 2018 #17
KR Me. Oct 2018 #19
You should see the bot swarm on Twitter. nolabear Oct 2018 #21
Actually he swore to NastyRiffraff Oct 2018 #29
Yep, I get to cast my vote for him this upcoming Monday! cry baby Oct 2018 #25
Yes, he reminds me of Obama, but also NastyRiffraff Oct 2018 #26
I never made that connection until you mentioned it - yes, you're right. The same "kavorka*". George II Oct 2018 #39
Watched the whole thing. sheshe2 Oct 2018 #31
unfortunately he lives in Texas D_Master81 Oct 2018 #36
I think if HRC would run again she would be elected with numbers not even the fascists could hide elmac Oct 2018 #38
He sounds "intelligent" and "caring and sensitive"....compared to "Ted Cruz" Stuart G Oct 2018 #41
Beto was amazing Gothmog Oct 2018 #43
finally some good news! orleans Oct 2018 #48
Like Bobby. But living a very long good life God willing! mahina Oct 2018 #49
I can't believe he's so far behind in the latest Quinnipiac poll. WTF, Texas?!? catbyte Oct 2018 #51
Thanks for sharing. Nitram Oct 2018 #53
A little racism here on my part... SpankMe Oct 2018 #56
He'd be almost the perfect candidate LiberalLovinLug Oct 2018 #64
I worry about the safety of someone so natural and charismatic. Grasswire2 Oct 2018 #58
I saw a person with a Beto T-shirt NJCher Oct 2018 #59
OMG if there's any seat I want to flip more... Initech Oct 2018 #60
I felt the same. eom LittleGirl Oct 2018 #63
Agree with all of the above, plus.... northoftheborder Oct 2018 #65
I like Beto too! ananda Oct 2018 #66
I think he has great appeal from the younger generations as well as older farts like me. YOHABLO Oct 2018 #67
Only when the alt-left starts trying to tear him down and sabotage him Blue_Tires Oct 2018 #68
This Texan thinks you're right! Uben Oct 2018 #71

lapfog_1

(29,193 posts)
1. I sure hope he wins...
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 08:14 PM
Oct 2018

Then, maybe, he can follow the path of Obama... not that it's been blazed.

The beauty of a short time in the Senate is both national stage (he already has that) and no track record to speak of.

SWBTATTReg

(22,077 posts)
18. And to boot, he's got a steel trap for a mind, and quick w/ his wit. Good qualities that make a ...
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 09:37 PM
Oct 2018

fine leader, who we all need, not just in TX. Side by side, Texas folks have had a chance to look at Lying Ted and Beto, and the choice is hands down, Beto. I wish him the best in TX for the election (I'm in MO), and the best in his future endeavors. I've got a feeling that we'll be seeing more of this young man in the future, and that would please a lot of people.

I'm sick and tired of cruz and his smarmy replies and retorts to questions asked and I don't think I'm the only one. He's one of the most unpopular senators in Congress and I can see why. His wife didn't help w/ bitching about not being able to afford a second home. When I heard this remark, I just shook my head.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
3. Listened to part of it on the way home and he was impressive...
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 08:21 PM
Oct 2018

Sirius/XM has CNN live. NPR had something on I wasn't interested in, MSNBC had Tweety interrupting his guests, so CNN was the good place for news.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
22. CNN is repeating it at Midnight EST. I'm recording it because my husband was recording a couple of
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 09:54 PM
Oct 2018

games and my scheduled recordings took the loss.

Cheviteau

(383 posts)
52. "Tweety Interrupting His Guest."
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 08:56 AM
Oct 2018

You got that right. That is some nerve-racking shit he brings to MSNBC. Sadly, Chris Hayes seems to be taking clues from him lately. It serves no purpose for the two of them to invite a guest on to give we viewers information to only babble on themselves.

Raven123

(4,792 posts)
4. I thought Beto was very good
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 08:24 PM
Oct 2018

I got a little confused on his answer about impeachment. I might have missed it but I think he would been clearer if he had specified how he would view his role ain the Senate versus that in Congress.

LostinRed

(840 posts)
5. I said it before he needs to move
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 08:40 PM
Oct 2018

Texas won’t elect him. They hate Ted Cruz but are still going to vote for him. This is based on a focus group that was featured on Vice News. A purple or blue state deserves this guy. He is so great. Ever since I saw his video defending the NFL kneelers I knew he was something special.

blogslut

(37,985 posts)
7. Texas has elected him three times.
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 08:44 PM
Oct 2018

Mr. O'Rourke is a thrice-elected US Congress person from the 16th district.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
55. If TX doesn't elect him this time, I would like to see him move.
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 10:48 AM
Oct 2018

I don't want him wasted. He has a national name and following now, and if not enough Texans, notably including minorities, take a stand against evil, Beto could be representing others in the house in 2 years and the senate in 4 or more likely 6.

But all those Texans trying to advance their state with Senator O'Rourke really deserve to win, and I'm pulling for them.

George II

(67,782 posts)
8. Yep! I just remarked elsewhere that he might be considered a "white Barack Obama".
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 08:45 PM
Oct 2018

This one hour of national attention should send his career soaring, even if he can't pull out this election against Rafael.

(interesting, he was asked why he uses "Beto", has anyone asked Cruz why he uses "Ted"?)

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
61. Thanks! O'Rourke is a tall drink o' water, isn't he?
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 02:56 PM
Oct 2018

That's good. Statistics show that tall men have an advantage in winning elections. I know it sounds silly, and it isn't always true, but it is a statistic.

Hope he wins. He would be good for Texas.

JDC

(10,117 posts)
12. I listened to the first 1/2 hour on Sat CNN.
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 08:52 PM
Oct 2018

It was so refreshing to hear someone speak eloquently and with real passion and compassion. Boy do I hope he wins.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
13. I think Beto is going to win
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 09:02 PM
Oct 2018

precisely because it’s Ted Cruz he’s running against.

Texas is going blue right now.

onetexan

(13,023 posts)
46. Just drove to visit my sister today in Dallas suburb
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 12:47 AM
Oct 2018

On her street the first house had a Cruz sign, followed by 2 houses with Beto signs. If Tx isnt blue yet at least its turning purple. BETO is certainly causing alot of buzz.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
47. It may be as simple as Cruz being inconsistent about Trump
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 02:48 AM
Oct 2018

insulting his wife.

There’s something really sleazy and cowardly and downright unmanly about the whole thing around Cruz kissing Trump’s ass after he insulted his wife’s looks. There is nothing that shows more completely that Cruz has no loyalty in his being. If nothing else Trumpians are loyal. I suspect many of them will not vote at all.

KatyMan

(4,180 posts)
57. anecdotal, but I drove around our neighborhood yesterday
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 11:23 AM
Oct 2018

and counted 11 Beto signs and 4 Cruz signs. We do live in a blue county here in Texas (Fort Bend) but we have a lot of people so hopefully we can swing it for Beto!

hibbing

(10,095 posts)
14. He's got "it"
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 09:06 PM
Oct 2018

I like him a lot. Cruz is just so awful it is astounding he got elected in the first place, but that whole party is filled with deplorables.


Peace

catrose

(5,060 posts)
44. I think Cambridge Analytical explains it
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 12:10 AM
Oct 2018

As Al Franken said, "I like Ted Cruz better than anybody in the Senate, and I hate Ted Cruz."

And Rapey Brett is his best friend, so what else does anyone need to know?

flying-skeleton

(696 posts)
16. Unfortunately .....
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 09:27 PM
Oct 2018

There are way too many Texans hooked on the Bullshit pedaled by the likes of Fox News (aka. Bullshit Mountain) and Fat Dumb Ass Rush Limbaugh to wake up and see the light. Texans deserve a moron like Cruz to screw them over and over again !!

hurl

(937 posts)
20. No, we don't.
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 09:49 PM
Oct 2018

The problem in Texas is more that we are dead last in turnout, so those hooked on the bullshit (who always vote) end up having disproportionate power. That's why GOTV is more important here than ever, and Democrats are working really hard this time to make it happen. We had the most new voter registrations in the country this cycle, so there is hope.

Win or lose, we are making Republicans spend time and money that they weren't expecting to.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
23. I was under the impression that Texas was gerrymandered to hell and back.
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 09:58 PM
Oct 2018

Case in point: The very liberal capital city of Austin -- but due to 2011 redistricting, five of its six congressional representatives are Republican.

hurl

(937 posts)
32. Right - no question.
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 10:18 PM
Oct 2018

Because of our low turnout, Republicans have been able to solidify their advantage by turning gerrymandering into an art form. That definitely will delay the demographic blue tide for a few more election cycles, but it is something we can overcome with patience and perseverance. A rejuvenated Democratic party at state and local levels will slowly begin to have an impact.

The good news is that this doesn't apply to the Senate race, so if we can GOTV, there is a chance to make progress.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
35. Good to know.
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 10:27 PM
Oct 2018

I have a bit of a familial stake in Texas culture -- my dad was born in Hubbard, and raised in El Paso.

TexasTowelie

(111,963 posts)
45. Ha ha,
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 12:13 AM
Oct 2018

I not only know where Hubbard is, but I've been there a couple of times--neither of which do I really want to think about at length.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
37. That completely slipped my mind. I was thrown off by the article attached below...
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 11:01 PM
Oct 2018

Which of course refers to the CONGRESSIONAL races. *facepalm*

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/3/5/17067544/texas-republicans-gerrymandering-primary-2018-midterms
How Texas Republicans’ gerrymandering could backfire in 2018
Gerrymandered into six districts, liberal Austin voters could erode Republican margins in 2018.
By Ella Nilsenella May 22, 2018

Deep in the heart of conservative Texas lies its liberal capital of Austin — a city jokingly referred to as “a blueberry in the tomato soup of Texas.” Given its left-leaning politics, it might seem strange that of Austin’s six congressional representatives, five are Republican.

That’s because during 2011 redistricting, Texas Republicans effectively diluted the voting power of Austin — and the equally liberal Travis County it sits in — by splitting the county into five congressional districts and carving Austin into six districts.

But with signs of a blue wave potentially ready to hit Texas along with the rest of the country during the 2018 midterms, some political observers are wondering whether Texas Republicans’ dramatic gerrymandering could backfire. Austin voters now have the potential to erode Republican margins in each of the five Republican-controlled districts and perhaps even flip one — the 21st Congressional District.
<snip>

blogslut

(37,985 posts)
34. Some districts are pretty badly gerrymandered.
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 10:24 PM
Oct 2018

We had a wonderful candidate for governor named Chris Bell who fought that gerrymandering valiantly. That year, Rick "Goodhair" Perry won a third term with 39% of the damned vote thanks to Kinky Friedman.

And now I shall drink to all the times we Texas Democrats have had our hearts broken. And to all the times we'll keep pushing on.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
40. Keep pushing, there's a Blue Texas out there somewhere...
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 11:15 PM
Oct 2018

I'm sitting in Very Blue California, and there's no good reason for Texas to stay Red. Just a little farther, keep on the true-Blue path! Havin' a tall one with ya here, cheers!:

MagickMuffin

(15,933 posts)
69. Well, our State Flower is the BLUEBONNET, note: not red
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 08:23 PM
Oct 2018

So, every spring Texas is a blanket of bluebonnets. We Texas voters will become the Texas Bluebonnets in the Fall!


nolabear

(41,936 posts)
21. You should see the bot swarm on Twitter.
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 09:53 PM
Oct 2018

All copy/paste of the exact same message. They’re scared out of their teeny little minds. 😄

And I really liked him too. He swears he’s not going to run for president but he’d make a hell of an impression in the senate!

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
29. Actually he swore to
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 10:15 PM
Oct 2018

complete the 6 year term as Senator, should he win. He at first said a blunt "No," but sort of amended that when Dana Bash pressed him, asking if he'd "never" run for president. He's young enough to honor the promise to complete a six year term and still run for president at some point.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
26. Yes, he reminds me of Obama, but also
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 10:11 PM
Oct 2018

I'm old enough to remember Bobby Kennedy, and Beto has that kind of aura.

George II

(67,782 posts)
39. I never made that connection until you mentioned it - yes, you're right. The same "kavorka*".
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 11:08 PM
Oct 2018

* a Seinfeld connection!!!!

He just has a presence, another Seinfeld reference, "how can anyone not like him?"

D_Master81

(1,822 posts)
36. unfortunately he lives in Texas
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 10:31 PM
Oct 2018

I will be shocked if he wins and be surprised if he's withing 3 or 4%. Hope I'm wrong.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
38. I think if HRC would run again she would be elected with numbers not even the fascists could hide
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 11:06 PM
Oct 2018

I know she won't but I can dream.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
41. He sounds "intelligent" and "caring and sensitive"....compared to "Ted Cruz"
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 11:20 PM
Oct 2018

......He is going to win.......people will vote for him. Lots will come out just to vote for Beto..I'll say it again...
............HE IS GOING TO WIN..........why?....such a contrast.... you don't need to be brilliant to see it.....
..........Also voting for Beto will be a vote against Trump.......................
.........................and lots of people want to make a statement against Trump....but we will see....I hope I am right

SpankMe

(2,957 posts)
56. A little racism here on my part...
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 11:23 AM
Oct 2018

If Beto loses, it frees him up for 2 years of preps to run for POTUS.

Now, the racist part: Let's make a presidential Oreo - an icky white guy between two brown guys!

O'Rourke was more qualified to be president when he was 14 than Trump is now. Democrats need a single national voice and de-facto leader. Beto is it. We need to recruit him as the national Democratic focal point and start hitting hard.

After this election is over - blue wave or not - we need to name a nat'l Dem figurehead and go for it...hit it hard.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,165 posts)
64. He'd be almost the perfect candidate
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 03:26 PM
Oct 2018

A Texan for starters. With no real skeletons, if Cruz hasn't dug anything up yet.

Also, to be strictly objective, he's a man. Sorry, but objectively speaking, its still, sadly, an advantage. Just because we want all voters to see women and men equally as leaders, many still do not.

He's tall. Again, shouldn't matter but stature seems to matter in how many Americans have been conditioned to see a leader.

And he's engaging, charismatic, and intelligent.


If he loses against Cruz, he should do as you say, start prepping for a run at POTUS.

While I'd love it if Kamala Harris, or Adam Schiff, Elizabeth Warren, or Bernie Sanders, or even someone like Avenatti were to be the nominee, Beto could be a candidate that totally decimates the GOP. We could win the House and Senate back.

Grasswire2

(13,565 posts)
58. I worry about the safety of someone so natural and charismatic.
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 01:11 PM
Oct 2018

We've lost too many of those who were destined for greatness.

northoftheborder

(7,569 posts)
65. Agree with all of the above, plus....
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 03:52 PM
Oct 2018

...he has a natural, unpolished, yet appealing manner. He needs to smile a bit more is my only criticism. He looks and acts like a "good ole Texas boy" but with high energy, seriousness, intelligence and dedication. Love him, I will be very depressed if Lyin Ted wins.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
67. I think he has great appeal from the younger generations as well as older farts like me.
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 08:06 PM
Oct 2018

I wouldn't rule out a presidential run for him. He has real grass roots charisma.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
68. Only when the alt-left starts trying to tear him down and sabotage him
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 08:08 PM
Oct 2018

and give purity tests will I know he's officially legit

Uben

(7,719 posts)
71. This Texan thinks you're right!
Sun Oct 21, 2018, 02:46 PM
Oct 2018

I believe Beto has a very good chance to go far in politics. He sure talks sense and is very convincing. I'll be casting my vote for him tomorrow.

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