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Stuart G

(38,726 posts)
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 08:34 PM Oct 2018

Is Trump the "Supidest Person" ever to become President of the United States?

Or is it most ignorant?..or both?..

He said this today, "Trump threatens military action if Mexico doesn't stop immigration 'onslaught'

How stupid is this?...

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Is Trump the "Supidest Person" ever to become President of the United States? (Original Post) Stuart G Oct 2018 OP
Yes to both Gothmog Oct 2018 #1
Do you remember George W Bush? oberliner Oct 2018 #36
I certainly remember W PJMcK Oct 2018 #53
Dubya is thankful to be in second place now. keithbvadu2 Oct 2018 #87
Yes and also evil pos. kimbutgar Oct 2018 #2
Yes, ..."evil pos" I thought Bush Jr. was evil....in ways he was...but taking kids from Stuart G Oct 2018 #4
Quite possibly so. Turbineguy Oct 2018 #3
Yes...evil, and ..."unsuited." No idea of what this job is...none, nada..zero..totally "unsuited" Stuart G Oct 2018 #5
Thinks it's all about him. Remaking the presidency to suit his tRUMP view. Clueless and arrogant is SammyWinstonJack Oct 2018 #32
Yes and yes .... CatMor Oct 2018 #6
Absolutely, no question. Hands down. onecaliberal Oct 2018 #7
George W Bush isn't in the running for you? oberliner Oct 2018 #40
No, He's Not ProfessorGAC Oct 2018 #47
He is for me. Cheney ran that show, though. LibDemAlways Oct 2018 #62
People should watch some old clips of him being interviewed oberliner Oct 2018 #64
The Trump apologist returns! John Fante Oct 2018 #65
Trump apologist? oberliner Oct 2018 #70
You're not fooling anyone. John Fante Oct 2018 #72
What the heck are you talking about? oberliner Oct 2018 #75
You're trying to deflect from Trump's stupidity by bringing up Bush. Over and over. John Fante Oct 2018 #77
I won't soon forget the awfulness of Bush oberliner Oct 2018 #79
You could argue that Bush was worse (for now), but there's really no argument John Fante Oct 2018 #82
I think him and andrew johnson are neck in neck with the stupid and the evil mucifer Oct 2018 #8
Andrew really wasn't the brightest bulb.. maybe an 8 watt. Trump a 6 watt........ Stuart G Oct 2018 #9
You have seen one, but don't realize it jmowreader Oct 2018 #84
Wow, that takes stalking to a new level flying rabbit Oct 2018 #88
No. Jrsygrl96 Oct 2018 #10
The massive stupidity of #43 was off the charts oberliner Oct 2018 #39
He's #1 in both categories. By a mile. shanny Oct 2018 #11
He definitely doesn't know what he doesn't know. Gidney N Cloyd Oct 2018 #12
Andrew Jackson may have rivaled him Generic Brad Oct 2018 #13
Jackson didn't have nuclear weapons. roamer65 Oct 2018 #23
Jackson was neither stupid or ignorant. Docreed2003 Oct 2018 #51
And the most dangerous. nt Ferrets are Cool Oct 2018 #14
Hands down! demosincebirth Oct 2018 #15
What about Bush? oberliner Oct 2018 #38
Bush may have invaded the wrong country, but he was not demosincebirth Oct 2018 #59
He was definitely an ignoramus oberliner Oct 2018 #60
Ignoramuses don't become pilots in the NG. demosincebirth Oct 2018 #90
I hesitate to say he's stupid. He's anti-intellectual and incredibly ignorant. Garrett78 Oct 2018 #16
Cunning, but not smart. tblue37 Oct 2018 #28
why Trump supporters can't see he's an idiot -- Gothmog Oct 2018 #17
Because they are and they see someone just as Evil Cha Oct 2018 #19
Interesting and kind of weird. ecstatic Oct 2018 #31
Way past STUPID.. EVIL VILE FUCKHEAD NOT FIT Cha Oct 2018 #18
I don't know what "Supidest" is but.....not sure??! Demonaut Oct 2018 #20
He's just a way station to President Mountain Dew Camacho - video Alhena Oct 2018 #21
Now..Now...many do not know...this is from a film, "Idiocracy"...now, now... Stuart G Oct 2018 #25
I always thought it was "weigh station" oberliner Oct 2018 #37
Different thing dpibel Oct 2018 #52
Thanks oberliner Oct 2018 #54
Not sure if I really like that comparison jmowreader Oct 2018 #85
Yes, at least in my long lifetime davekriss Oct 2018 #22
Were you alive for George W Bush? oberliner Oct 2018 #35
I was alive for JFK davekriss Oct 2018 #50
Hands down the worst. roamer65 Oct 2018 #24
Both. Also the stupidest and most ignorant person to do almost anything else. He makes W and Palin tblue37 Oct 2018 #26
He be even more stupider then Dan Quayle ProudLib72 Oct 2018 #27
........."Stupider than Dan Quayle".........................how does one top that?.. Stuart G Oct 2018 #29
BrainyQuote has quite a few of his more absurd sayings ProudLib72 Oct 2018 #30
Dan Quayle might not of been the brightest bulb in the box, raccoon Oct 2018 #42
He's by far the most corrupt duforsure Oct 2018 #33
Bush invaded Iraq because "God told him to" oberliner Oct 2018 #34
Keep reaching. John Fante Oct 2018 #66
Were you alive for George W Bush? oberliner Oct 2018 #69
Of course I was, WTF? He was a dimwit too, but miles smarter than Trump. Not even close. John Fante Oct 2018 #74
Sarah Palin was governor also oberliner Oct 2018 #78
Glad you brought her up. She's smarter than Trump too. John Fante Oct 2018 #80
They are all dumb oberliner Oct 2018 #81
Undoubtedly. Nt raccoon Oct 2018 #41
By a distance malaise Oct 2018 #43
Someone who can easily manipulate millions of people into believing and behaving in a certain way dustyscamp Oct 2018 #44
DT45 is any thing but stupid, an Idiot savant. CK_John Oct 2018 #45
I Disagree RobinA Oct 2018 #49
In absolute terms, tough to say. But once you factor in... JHB Oct 2018 #46
In Order RobinA Oct 2018 #48
This is what happens when you let a tabloid trash TV network do all your thinking for you. Initech Oct 2018 #55
Says everything you need to know about Trump voters. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2018 #56
Trick Question ChoppinBroccoli Oct 2018 #57
Yes. Kajun Gal Oct 2018 #58
Nope, that award goes to W. Polybius Oct 2018 #61
Yes. By far. He has the cunning of a NYC Sewer Rat, but he is not intelligent. smirkymonkey Oct 2018 #63
Well said. That, and he has absolutely no concern or regard for other people, including children. Rhiannon12866 Oct 2018 #68
Trump could very well be the dumbest major politician in US history. John Fante Oct 2018 #67
Most ignorant for sure. Turin_C3PO Oct 2018 #71
Imo, Yes.. and the most Vile Evil Sociopathic Cha Oct 2018 #73
Ronald Reagan was easily as stupid as Trump. guillaumeb Oct 2018 #76
Sure -- until the NEXT pile of offal the republicans choose to inflict on the country. Buns_of_Fire Oct 2018 #83
I wonder if he would notice your spelling of "Stupidest" doc03 Oct 2018 #86
Trump is irredeemably stupid, colossally ignorant, and profoundly evil. dalton99a Oct 2018 #89
Don't underestimate him Raine Oct 2018 #91

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
87. Dubya is thankful to be in second place now.
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 09:31 PM
Oct 2018

Dubya is thankful to be in second place now.

Stuart G

(38,726 posts)
4. Yes, ..."evil pos" I thought Bush Jr. was evil....in ways he was...but taking kids from
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 08:38 PM
Oct 2018

parents, for the crime of wanting to come to the U.S.A..is truly ...evil

Stuart G

(38,726 posts)
5. Yes...evil, and ..."unsuited." No idea of what this job is...none, nada..zero..totally "unsuited"
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 08:41 PM
Oct 2018

Great description..thank you for your opinion..

SammyWinstonJack

(44,316 posts)
32. Thinks it's all about him. Remaking the presidency to suit his tRUMP view. Clueless and arrogant is
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 03:02 AM
Oct 2018

no way to go through life, dotard.

ProfessorGAC

(76,693 posts)
47. No, He's Not
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 08:16 AM
Oct 2018

He was not a particularly bright guy, and he was extremely incurious. But, his lack of knowledge was not based upon being incapable of understanding, but on a willful disregard of it.

I do not believe this buffoon is capable of learning anything more complex than the pricing of a piece of real estate.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
62. He is for me. Cheney ran that show, though.
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 10:52 PM
Oct 2018

Bush was just the useful stooge - the genial front man for the evil cabal. Trump has the vocabulary of a 3rd grader, the attention span of a gnat, no curiosity, no critical thinking skills, and the temperament of a spoiled attention-seeking toddler. It's a close call, though. Both are dumbasses. Bush more in a frat boy towel snapping way; Trump in a runaway ego with delusions of grandeur way. Didn't think we'd ever sink lower than Bush. Trump is definite proof that Repukes like their Presidents to be stupid, just like them.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
64. People should watch some old clips of him being interviewed
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 11:21 PM
Oct 2018

Some seem to have forgotten.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
65. The Trump apologist returns!
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 11:31 PM
Oct 2018

GWB isn't remotely as stupid and clueless as Trump, give me a fucking break.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
75. What the heck are you talking about?
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 07:49 PM
Oct 2018

I've been an active member of DU since 2006.

Do you not remember the Bush presidency at all?

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
77. You're trying to deflect from Trump's stupidity by bringing up Bush. Over and over.
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 07:51 PM
Oct 2018

Spare me.

Everyone here was alive for Bush's presidency. Trump is dumber. It's not even close.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
79. I won't soon forget the awfulness of Bush
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 07:53 PM
Oct 2018

Trump is also awful - but Bush was worse in my view. Primarily due to his invasion of Iraq which led to tens (hundreds?) of thousands of needless deaths. And for nothing. Because "God told him to" and because Saddam made his father look bad.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
82. You could argue that Bush was worse (for now), but there's really no argument
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 08:00 PM
Oct 2018

that he's dumber than Trump. None.

Stuart G

(38,726 posts)
9. Andrew really wasn't the brightest bulb.. maybe an 8 watt. Trump a 6 watt........
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 08:51 PM
Oct 2018

Here is the real problem,,,Trump the 6 watt bulb, thinks he is a 1500 watt bulb..and that thought actually lowers

him down to a 3 watt bulb.. Now, I have never seen a 3 watt bulb..but I imagine it is pretty dim..

jmowreader

(53,193 posts)
84. You have seen one, but don't realize it
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 09:02 PM
Oct 2018

The light bulb in your car's glove box is a 3 watt bulb.

Jrsygrl96

(270 posts)
10. No.
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 08:58 PM
Oct 2018

Diabolic. Satanic. Evil. Wicked. Ungodly. Devilish. Infernal. Fiendish.

ANTICHRIST! But not stupid. That belongs to 43.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
39. The massive stupidity of #43 was off the charts
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 05:47 AM
Oct 2018

And he had God telling him to do things on top of everything else.

demosincebirth

(12,826 posts)
59. Bush may have invaded the wrong country, but he was not
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 10:42 PM
Oct 2018

An ignoramous, lier, racist, and just a plain old evil man

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
16. I hesitate to say he's stupid. He's anti-intellectual and incredibly ignorant.
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 11:35 PM
Oct 2018

But he manipulates his base and the media in a way that's pretty masterful.

Cha

(319,067 posts)
19. Because they are and they see someone just as Evil
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 12:02 AM
Oct 2018

and he got rigged in the wh by the Russians and their enablers. Ain't life grand.

ecstatic

(35,075 posts)
31. Interesting and kind of weird.
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 01:10 AM
Oct 2018

trump has been exposed as a liar numerous times. I don't see confidence, I see a con artist (carnival barker). My conclusion is that his true believers suffer from 1 or more mental illnesses--the deplorable wing is comprised of sociopaths and the Kanye West wing is comprised of decent people who have succumbed to serious mood disorders. BTW, I'm not disparaging mental illness--I've suffered from anxiety and depression at various points in my life as well.

Stuart G

(38,726 posts)
25. Now..Now...many do not know...this is from a film, "Idiocracy"...now, now...
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 12:35 AM
Oct 2018

now...if you haven't seen ..."Idiocracy"...you need to see it...as soon as possible..
..................................like yesterday....................no..I wont tell you about it...but it is great...and you will enjoy it a whole lot...............

dpibel

(3,941 posts)
52. Different thing
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 09:53 PM
Oct 2018

way sta·tion
/ˈwā ˌstāSHən/
noun North American
noun: way station; plural noun: way stations; noun: waystation; plural noun: waystations

a stopping point on a journey.
a minor station on a railroad.

jmowreader

(53,193 posts)
85. Not sure if I really like that comparison
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 09:20 PM
Oct 2018

President Camacho was able to make a course correction when he realized he was wrong; when Frito, Rita and the cameraman were able to get photos of the crops up on the Jumbotron, President Camacho halted the Rehabilitation, pardoned Joe and promoted him to vice president. Trump would have had Rita and Frito executed by bone saw for daring to interfere with an executive decision.

The essence of President Camacho is he was a good but uneducated man who innately knew how to motivate people. Watch the video you posted again: at the beginning of his address, the House of Representin' was ready to tear him from limb to limb; at the end of it, they would have walked through fire for him. The way he did things wouldn't have gone over well in 21st Century America, but it was very effective in the 26th Century.

The essence of Donald Trump is he's a man who's had every advantage in life and squandered them all in the pursuit of personal aggrandizement and wealth.

tblue37

(68,436 posts)
26. Both. Also the stupidest and most ignorant person to do almost anything else. He makes W and Palin
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 12:36 AM
Oct 2018

sound almost--nah, never mind.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
27. He be even more stupider then Dan Quayle
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 12:37 AM
Oct 2018

He isn't going to "bone up on his Latin prior to visiting Latin America". No, he's going to bone up on his Bullyish before his next rally.

Stuart G

(38,726 posts)
29. ........."Stupider than Dan Quayle".........................how does one top that?..
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 12:40 AM
Oct 2018

.........................how many here even know who Dan Quayle.... is/was??????

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
30. BrainyQuote has quite a few of his more absurd sayings
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 12:48 AM
Oct 2018
https://www.brainyquote.com/authors/dan_quayle

What a terrible thing to have lost one's mind. Or not to have a mind at all. How true that is.

The other day the President said, I know you've had some rough times, and I want to do something that will show the nation what faith that I have in you, in your maturity and sense of responsibility. He paused, then said, would you like a puppy?



You cannot make this shit up. Well, you can, but then you would appear to be stupid!

raccoon

(32,390 posts)
42. Dan Quayle might not of been the brightest bulb in the box,
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 06:13 AM
Oct 2018

Dan Quayle might not of been the brightest bulb in the box,But he wasn’t a vicious hateful racist.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
33. He's by far the most corrupt
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 04:16 AM
Oct 2018

And lies more than any other president has, but he's really illegitimate so he won't count when its all over.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
74. Of course I was, WTF? He was a dimwit too, but miles smarter than Trump. Not even close.
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 07:48 PM
Oct 2018

GWB was a governor before becoming POTUS. Trump might not know how to spell "governor".

I would bet good money that GWB at least knows how a bill becomes law. Trump? I would bet against him knowing.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
80. Glad you brought her up. She's smarter than Trump too.
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 07:56 PM
Oct 2018

And she's a gigantic idiot, so I'm not complimenting her at all. Trump is just that fucking dumb.

Look, having nuclear—my uncle was a great professor and scientist  and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, 
OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart 
—you know, if you're a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, 
like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the 
smartest people anywhere in the world—it's true!—but when you're a 
conservative Republican they try—oh, do they do a number—that's 
why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went 
there, went there, did this, built a fortune—you know I have to give my 
like credentials all the time, because we're a little disadvantaged—but 
you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me—it would 
have been so easy, and it's not as important as these lives are (nuclear 
is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the 
power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of 
what's going to happen and he was right—who would have thought?), 
but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners—now it 
used to be three, now it's four—but when it was three and even now, I 
would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, 
you know, they don't, they haven't figured that the women are smarter 
right now than the men, so, you know, it's gonna take them about 
another 150 years—but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians  are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us.


 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
81. They are all dumb
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 07:59 PM
Oct 2018

Maybe I am biased because the awfulness of the Bush presidency took a very specific and personal toll on me, but as far as I am concerned, he is still the stupidest and the worst of the presidents in my lifetime. If Trump lies us into a major war, then he may take over the crown, but as of now, it still goes to Bush in my view.

dustyscamp

(2,705 posts)
44. Someone who can easily manipulate millions of people into believing and behaving in a certain way
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 06:53 AM
Oct 2018

isn't stupid.

RobinA

(10,478 posts)
49. I Disagree
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 08:38 AM
Oct 2018

The man is dumb. Throughout his life he's hit on a few things that worked in his milieu and he just repeats them over and over. Reading the NYT investigation on his "rise" and the family's financial shenanigans, you see he learned quite young many of the tricks he employs in some form still. Like hinting that you are going to do something you have no intention of doing to try to manipulate people into doing what you want them to do. Apparently, he used to hint that he was going to dump a large amount of stock in order to manipulate stock prices. He never did dump the stock and didn't seem to have any real intention of doing so. He does a form of this almost weekly today. "I could [do something heinous] to [whoever] if they don't [do whatever I want]. We'll see." US Presidents don't throw their weight around like this, it's completely irresponsible and not something true leaders do. Does it work for him? Not really. Shooting someone on Fifth Ave. and getting away with it does not mean you are successful, smart, or a good President.

JHB

(38,211 posts)
46. In absolute terms, tough to say. But once you factor in...
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 07:36 AM
Oct 2018

...how aggressively he applies himself to those qualities, yeah, he takes top spot.

And all the other contenders styled themselves as conservatives as reckoned by the standards of their day.

RobinA

(10,478 posts)
48. In Order
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 08:23 AM
Oct 2018

to be completely fair, I am going to go with We don't really know. Must successful people who actually are stupid make it a big point not only not to flaunt their stupidity, but to keep it as quiet as possible, often employing other people to help sharpen the image. Trump, on the other hand, blares his stupidity all over the world every day. He makes no attempt to keep it on the down low or to get people to help him look like has a clue. So is it possible that there has been a stupider President? Possible. But I guess you have to figure if the other possible stupid Presidents were at least smart enough, or willing enough to listen to advice, to make an effort to look like they had a working brain, they were at least smarter than Trump, who obviously is not.

So yes, Trump is the stupidest President. See, I tried to be fair and balanced, but the conclusion was the same.

Initech

(108,772 posts)
55. This is what happens when you let a tabloid trash TV network do all your thinking for you.
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 10:14 PM
Oct 2018

OAITW r.2.0

(32,133 posts)
56. Says everything you need to know about Trump voters.
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 10:25 PM
Oct 2018

Only idiots would vote for this spectacular clown.

Polybius

(21,900 posts)
61. Nope, that award goes to W.
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 10:49 PM
Oct 2018

I'd love to see their college grades compared. Anyone up to posting them?

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
63. Yes. By far. He has the cunning of a NYC Sewer Rat, but he is not intelligent.
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 11:18 PM
Oct 2018

The problem is that he is a very stupid, ignorant man who is under the delusion that he is brilliant. Other presidents may not have been very bright, but they at least had enough intelligence to know their shortcomings and to surround themselves with wiser people and take their advice.

He is a very stupid man. Anyone can tell that by listening to him. It is obvious.

Rhiannon12866

(255,525 posts)
68. Well said. That, and he has absolutely no concern or regard for other people, including children.
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 11:55 PM
Oct 2018

The chief job of a POTUS is to defend the Constitution and to make life better for the American people. He has no knowledge of history or the laws of the land and no regard for anyone else anywhere, including his fellow Americans. It's all about him and what he can get out of this to benefit himself. Those who don't share that vision, especially Democrats, are his enemies. And that is scary as hell.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
67. Trump could very well be the dumbest major politician in US history.
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 11:38 PM
Oct 2018

Just read this shit:

“I have broken more Elton John records, he seems to have a lot of records. And I, by the way, I don’t have a musical instrument. I don’t have a guitar or an organ. No organ. Elton has an organ. And lots of other people helping. No we’ve broken a lot of records. We’ve broken virtually every record. Because you know, look I only need this space. They need much more room. For basketball, for hockey and all of the sports, they need a lot of room. We don’t need it. We have people in that space. So we break all of these records. Really we do it without like, the musical instruments. This is the only musical: the mouth. And hopefully the brain attached to the mouth. Right? The brain, more important than the mouth, is the brain. The brain is much more important.”

Turin_C3PO

(16,385 posts)
71. Most ignorant for sure.
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 07:02 AM
Oct 2018

I don’t think he’s smart but he is a master manipulator so I hesitate to call him stupid.

Cha

(319,067 posts)
73. Imo, Yes.. and the most Vile Evil Sociopathic
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 07:45 PM
Oct 2018

Lying Asshole in this century. Not fit to serve.

Buns_of_Fire

(19,161 posts)
83. Sure -- until the NEXT pile of offal the republicans choose to inflict on the country.
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 08:24 PM
Oct 2018

Many (I was one) thought that Dubya was the absolute bottom of the republican barrel.

But what we failed to realize at the time is that the republican barrel HAS NO BOTTOM!!!

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