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Fri Oct 19, 2018, 10:36 AM

Fuck MSNBC

Fuck the whole lot of them.

The same people ranting about "Democrats lack of message", are the very same people that gave us hours, upon hours of a FUCKING EMPTY PODIUM in 2016.

There were times I thought my TV had developed a new "screen saver".

You want a message? Here it is..."Go Fuck Yourselves"!

When sane people are once again in power, we're going to do all we fucking can to get rid of "corporate news", and ensure that quite a few of these "pundits" spend the remainder of their lives covering obituaries in some god-forsaken shit-hole in Dumbfuckistan, 'Murika.

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Reply Fuck MSNBC (Original post)
maxrandb Oct 2018 OP
dalton99a Oct 2018 #1
LakeArenal Oct 2018 #11
WeekiWater Oct 2018 #2
still_one Oct 2018 #3
Iggo Oct 2018 #9
yurbud Oct 2018 #25
DownriverDem Oct 2018 #30
redstateblues Oct 2018 #4
qazplm135 Oct 2018 #8
DownriverDem Oct 2018 #31
vlyons Oct 2018 #5
mahina Oct 2018 #14
apnu Oct 2018 #42
MontanaMama Oct 2018 #45
ck4829 Oct 2018 #6
pintobean Oct 2018 #7
cwydro Oct 2018 #12
SCantiGOP Oct 2018 #10
mahina Oct 2018 #15
ancianita Oct 2018 #19
LisaM Oct 2018 #38
mahina Oct 2018 #46
eleny Oct 2018 #13
llmart Oct 2018 #16
elmac Oct 2018 #17
ancianita Oct 2018 #18
JCMach1 Oct 2018 #20
badhair77 Oct 2018 #24
JCMach1 Oct 2018 #41
gibraltar72 Oct 2018 #21
treestar Oct 2018 #27
JHan Oct 2018 #22
SpankMe Oct 2018 #23
Hekate Oct 2018 #26
Polly Hennessey Oct 2018 #28
Progressive dog Oct 2018 #29
Puppyjive Oct 2018 #32
Hekate Oct 2018 #33
mikeysnot Oct 2018 #34
djacq Oct 2018 #35
OnDoutside Oct 2018 #36
Taraman Oct 2018 #37
berlin_expat Oct 2018 #39
JCMach1 Oct 2018 #40
Cha Oct 2018 #43
Paladin Oct 2018 #44


Response to dalton99a (Reply #1)

Fri Oct 19, 2018, 10:56 AM

11. Thanks again for the reminder.

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Fri Oct 19, 2018, 10:39 AM

2. They profit from a horse race and eliciting emotional responses.

 

Their profits are not derived from excellent journalism.

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Fri Oct 19, 2018, 10:39 AM

3. This has been happening for quite some time, and MSNBS isn't the only one

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Response to still_one (Reply #3)

Fri Oct 19, 2018, 10:53 AM

9. But they are one.

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Response to Iggo (Reply #9)

Fri Oct 19, 2018, 12:25 PM

25. they are the one that is supposedly the left's Fox News but in fact

as Ed Schultz pointed out, they are on a leash held by their corporate masters and are told to stay away from some topics.

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Response to still_one (Reply #3)

Fri Oct 19, 2018, 01:03 PM

30. Help

What is happening for quite some time? Rachel Maddow is an excellent show. Why are you against her?

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Fri Oct 19, 2018, 10:41 AM

4. Mika, Joe, Kornacki, Todd are all about tamping down turnout

With their stupid “depressed Democrats” meme

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Response to redstateblues (Reply #4)

Fri Oct 19, 2018, 10:51 AM

8. no unlikely...

do you really think they want depressed turnout?

No, what they want is:

1. Not to be "wrong" again. They are doing the whole Trump defied the odds so he must have some sort of magic we are missing. We better err on the side of his winning.

2. A horse race. They want a nailbiter. A blue wave is already baked into a lot of assumptions. Talking about a blue wave for three weeks isn't going to get anyone watching or talking. It's boring.

3. Sticking to common themes. Republicans are bullies who have lost their minds, and Dems are weak and in disarray and feckless. It's a tried and true media story and it's pretty tough for them to break out of it.

4. To be the experts. Joe thinks he knows how to run every race in the country "just like he did." So he doesn't want to say, hey looks like the Dems are doing well, he wants to say, boy these guys are screwing it up, if they only did things like I did them back in Florida.

And then you have folks like Mika who simply are negative worry-worts as a baseline personality.

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Response to redstateblues (Reply #4)

Fri Oct 19, 2018, 01:04 PM

31. How so?

I don't know what you are talking about?

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Fri Oct 19, 2018, 10:44 AM

5. Joey Scar's rant this morning

about Dems don't have an angry message, much less any message at all. Well I just turned off the TV. Turned on my local classical music station (WRR Dallas), which is excellent. And like magic, my day day got instantly better.

What struck me as interesting is that Scar seems to think that only an ANGRY message is worthwhile. And here I am, telling everyone not to be controlled by their anger. But to stay calm and focused on voting. Those ReThugs sure are addicted to anger.

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Response to vlyons (Reply #5)

Fri Oct 19, 2018, 11:25 AM

14. Please make this an OP.

Bingo.

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Response to vlyons (Reply #5)

Fri Oct 19, 2018, 01:25 PM

42. Americans respond well to "angry" messages

FDR's "This day will live in infamy" speech. Also his "Only thing we have to fear is fear itself" -- also very high on the aggression meter like he was going to war with the Depression, which he kinda did. Then there's JFK's defiant "We choose to go to the Moon speech"

Its not Conservatives who get going when leaders show anger or aggression, its a human thing.

Joe Scar isn't wrong here. The Democrats are too nice with the thuggish Republicans. We need to get mean and uncompromising.

Yes, uncompromising. The Republicans do not compromise with us, they don't even think they are here to serve us. They haven't negotiated with the Democratic Party in good faith for decades, which started when Newt Gingrich won Speaker of the House in 1994. They have seen us as the enemy since then, and treated us as the enemy.

Get mad, make noise, go vote, bring your pals, also good and angry with you to the polls and VOTE!

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Response to vlyons (Reply #5)

Fri Oct 19, 2018, 01:33 PM

45. tRump has branded Dems as an angry mob

which is clearly not true. So, are we supposed to have an angry message or not? I don't get it. Heads they win, tails we lose. GOTV. Make them eat their words.

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Fri Oct 19, 2018, 10:45 AM

6. K&R. Good message.

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Fri Oct 19, 2018, 10:48 AM

7. Lol. Threatening fascism, if given power.

 

That'll work.

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Response to pintobean (Reply #7)

Fri Oct 19, 2018, 11:02 AM

12. +1000.

Smh.

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Fri Oct 19, 2018, 10:54 AM

10. This whole thread

is about as delusional as a Sean Hannity show.
Have you ever watched MSNBC? Have you ever watched it in comparison to other media outlets? What more do you want? It is the most pro-Progressive thing you can find on TV.
This is just another example of Democrats fighting each other over trivial points of philosophical purity.
I’ll trash this thread and move on.

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Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #10)

Fri Oct 19, 2018, 11:27 AM

15. I disagree. I've been timing how long it takes for each show to cut to trump speaking.

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Except for Rachel and Lawrence, they all give him air time within two minutes of the start of their show. Then they keep cutting to him saying whatever the message of the day is. Him speaking takes up at least a quarter of their air time.

It physically affects me.

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Response to mahina (Reply #15)

Fri Oct 19, 2018, 11:56 AM

19. Not all. Lawrence O'Donnell explicitly states that he refuses to show any footage of Trump.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #19)

Fri Oct 19, 2018, 01:19 PM

38. Oh, him. He might not show footage, but I remember once during the campaign

when he was doing some story on the candidates and he said the name Trump over a hundred times, and mentioned Hillary Clinton three times. I counted, and to be sure I was right, I watched the replay and counted again.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #19)

Fri Oct 19, 2018, 02:08 PM

46. Now that you mention it, I've been monitoring the 11th hour and Tweety.

You are right. I’ve edited my post.

Mahalo.

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Fri Oct 19, 2018, 11:08 AM

13. Meanwhile, on Free Speech TV Malcolm Nance and Fernand Amandi were on Steph Miller's show

They're in California for Politicon and were in her studio this morning for the first two hours.

MSNBC is so much better in the evening. So listening to liberal radio available on the web during the morning hours makes so much more sense to me. It was a couple of hours of great conversation.

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Fri Oct 19, 2018, 11:38 AM

16. This is why I don't have cable.

I have no desire to waste my precious time watching what passes for "news" these days. The only bright spot regarding this is that I highly doubt that TV news is going to be relevant or even around in one or two generations (not that I'll be around either). They'll go the way the newspapers went.

I grew up in a household that valued getting at least one or two newspapers and seeing my parents read them voraciously. By the early '90's newspapers were becoming worthless. I haven't subscribed to a newspaper since they decided that Clinton's sex life was considered a "CRISIS" for the country. And, yes, I clearly remember headlines like that. Now we have a real crisis, and that word isn't used at all.

Thank Goddess there's the Internet.

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Fri Oct 19, 2018, 11:52 AM

17. we must remember there are no Progressive networks

 

they built up tRump because they knew he would be good for profits, they created the monster. These are profit hungry corporations that are not friends of Democracy.

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Fri Oct 19, 2018, 11:54 AM

18. EXACTLY what I say every damn time I hear them toss that horse race bullshit.

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Fri Oct 19, 2018, 11:58 AM

20. Attacking Clinton and the Clenis later in the day



19 days and you are giving air time to tabloid BS from the 1990s...

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Response to JCMach1 (Reply #20)

Fri Oct 19, 2018, 12:14 PM

24. Exactly. I turned back over and Ruth Marcus smacks me in the face

with her Hillary “critique.” Honestly who cares what RM has to say but they gave her ample air time. I’m going out to enjoy the sun and the autumn air. Screw MSNBC.

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Response to badhair77 (Reply #24)

Fri Oct 19, 2018, 01:24 PM

41. Cover the freaking issues for people... Could we do that?



For all the talk about Khashoggi (it's awful, given) could we delve into the KSA human right record on Yemen? Could we talk about Trumpworld's conflicts of interest and corruption in relation to KSA? Could we blast McConnell's pronouncements on Soc. Sec., Medicare and Medicaid? Could we talk about how voters are concerned about healthcare across the board (it's a bi-partisan issue)? Could we talk about the corruption in the Trump administration instead of navel gazing his rallies and Twitter feed? Could we heavily cover the very real voter suppression going on?

Could we, just a little?

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Fri Oct 19, 2018, 12:10 PM

21. They act as if this was a pResidential election.

We don't need a unified message. We need candidates to use the message that works for them. Joe is just used to good little Nazis.

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Response to gibraltar72 (Reply #21)

Fri Oct 19, 2018, 12:59 PM

27. +1

This is why they are irrelevant.

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Fri Oct 19, 2018, 12:14 PM

22. I get you're angry but..

Then sane people are once again in power, we're going to do all we fucking can to get rid of "corporate news", and ensure that quite a few of these "pundits" spend the remainder of their lives covering obituaries in some god-forsaken shit-hole in Dumbfuckistan, 'Murika.


Yikes! this is not the solution

We know some elements of the media have learned nothing from 2016. If I do watch tv and cable news, I stick to Rachel or Joy. And I highly doubt someone motivated to vote Dem is going to be turned off because some dumbshit on TV said some dumbshit. In a Presidential election, this nonsense might have sway but not so much in midterms.

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Fri Oct 19, 2018, 12:14 PM

23. You sound a bit miffed? n/t

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Fri Oct 19, 2018, 12:55 PM

26. I turned it on and heard women talking heads opining that the Dems all want Hillary to STFU...

...because she stuck her foot in it in answer to the fckng stupid question about Monica ("they were both adults" ) .

That was MSNBC. I turned it off. I am furious.

Hillary didn't misspeak, and the only point of throwing Monica in her face in 2018 is to continue to tear Hillary down and continue to publicly humiliate her. Reduce every single achievement of her life to nothing and leave her with the eternal and false label of wronged woman who wronged the other woman.

Who are these Democrats of which they speak? The ones who despise Hillary and want her to crawl under a rock? Name them so I can forget to ever donate money to their campaigns again.

I. Am. Furious.

Oh, and MSNBC? Haven't you got more urgent news to report today? Like about a potus who may or may not be screwing interns (people say, many people) but sure as hell is condoning and encouraging the body-slamming and even murder of journalists. Your colleagues.

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Fri Oct 19, 2018, 01:01 PM

28. Don't watch during the day.

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Fri Oct 19, 2018, 01:02 PM

29. I feel that way, too.

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Fri Oct 19, 2018, 01:05 PM

32. Drug Dealers

They are all drug dealers pushing prescription drugs on Americans every 3 minutes of every day.

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Fri Oct 19, 2018, 01:06 PM

33. I usually rely on selected programs on MSNBC and make no secret of it. But this morning...

...a couple of women who work there were stomping on Hillary, nodding wisely. I was furious. I'll tune in for Nicolle Wallace at 1pm and Rachel Maddow at 6pm.

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Fri Oct 19, 2018, 01:09 PM

34. Cancelled cable almost two years ago.

told my carrier that the media sucks and that is why I am cancelling...

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Fri Oct 19, 2018, 01:09 PM

35. Fear, Anger, Hate; The Darkside are they.

Progressive / Liberal media isn’t the big machine that Conservative media is.

MSNBC
Sirius XM Progress
Sirius XM Urban View
Huffington Post
Democratic Underground
Share Blue
Media Matters

You can probably name a few more but these outlets are the networks of The Resistance.

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Fri Oct 19, 2018, 01:15 PM

36. A bit of overkill in the OP. That said, today was a particularly low day with all the

Republican "strategist" commentators giving Dems a big kicking today. It was almost coordinated.

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Fri Oct 19, 2018, 01:17 PM

37. One has to be selective like every other news source

MSNBC has some progressive anchors but it isn't a progressive network. I switch back and forth. I'm seeing a change in the last week, though, to pushing inaccurate memes, e.g. Democrats have no message, Hillary Clinton is death to the party faithful, the Democratic Party is deeply divided, etc. It's bunk.

I am getting a little tired of the big Kornacki push right now. He's on every show. Do they really think he'll catch fire? Not likely.

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Fri Oct 19, 2018, 01:22 PM

39. Stephanie Ruhle

She is a complete dipshit. All she does is talk about how the Dem's are incompetent. She has the most annoying dickhead Kornacki bragging about his comments on Menendez. What an asshole!

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Fri Oct 19, 2018, 01:23 PM

40. Been attacking Dems all day

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Fri Oct 19, 2018, 01:25 PM

43. ..."Go Fuck Yourselves"! I like that message!

I don't even have a tv.. stopped watching Manipulative & Manufacturing m$m in Nov 2002.. right after the midterms.

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Fri Oct 19, 2018, 01:33 PM

44. My sentiments EXACTLY!

Most particularly as to MSNBC"s "Both Sides Do It" Brigade: Chuck Todd and Andrea Mitchell. I guess those two shitheads don't think they shamed themselves sufficiently during the 2016 campaign. To hell with them, and any other "friends" who are intent on nothing but easy stories to file---as opposed to the fate of this nation and the very real dangers of fascist overthrow.

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