Stop Asking Hillary to Atone for Her Husband's Wayward Penis

[irisblue]

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One of the most disgusting, misogynistic things in our society is asking an accomplished woman like Hillary Clinton to atone for her husband’s wayward penis. In a recent CBS interview, Hillary was asked about the affair that her husband had with Monica Lewinsky two decades ago. Her response was, “Monica was an adult.” Conservatives, who are forever on their moral, hypocritical high horse, used it as another way to attack the Clintons, who they view as the face of the Democratic Party (like Barack and Michelle Obama, the Castro brothers, Cory Booker, and Kamala Harris don’t exist). Liberals who are forever trying to take the moral high ground, like that ever gets anyone, anywhere, when dealing with Rethuglicans, were appalled and said things to the tune of “Hillary doesn’t represent feminists well”, “she shouldn’t have answered the question”, “she was attacking Monica”, yada, yada, eye roll, etc.

My response to all of you, is a collective: FUCK YOU! Hillary doesn’t owe any of you anything! She is a highly accomplished woman: credential lawyer for over 40 years, a Flotus who pushed through major legislation, a Secretary of State, and a Democratic Presidential nominee, so why minimize her accomplishments, and her worth, by asking her about her husband’s affair? Some of you are still mad, because she didn’t throw away her 40 year plus marriage because her husband got his dick sucked, something most men get done at the local strip clubs, adult bookstores, and even in their marital beds every day. Some of you are mad, because you tried to turn the Lewinsky/Bill Clinton affair as a MeToo moment (this idea is fueled by white women who stepped their happy asses in the booth to vote for the ultimate, orange misogynist Donald Trump), and then there are the ones who insist on being nice when the other side has proven to be deplorables!

The reality is Bill and Monica are totally in the wrong. Bill disrespected his marriage vows, and Monica was the 24 year old hussy who thought she was going to seduce the most powerful man in the country and turn it into a cash cow. (She gossiped about it to Linda Tripp, and saved the semen stained dress: she had an agenda, and it was not being the angel/victim that Conservative and Liberal media made her out to be).So if you have questions, concerns, or commentary to add about the affair, direct it to the two people who had it, and leave Hillary alone. It’s been 20 years, and I would bet my life that Bill had dipped his penis into countless other snatches around the country. Monica needs to get a real job, and to move on with the business of life, because there is nothing more sad than a 40 something year old, trying to relive the famed affair of her 20’s

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Interesting article. I am over conservatives & republicans using ~that~ against HRC. Why aren't conservatives and republicans asking that of Melania Trump?

Yeah, this is a 'what about ism'. Maybe

[MontanaMama]

1. +1

HRC catches hell for staying with her husband and would catch hell for leaving him. No win for HRC. No win for Dems...ever. That's how the Gropers roll.

[Raven123]

2. You lost me at the word hussy

I'm not sure where you got your info on Monica's motives, but unless its based on hard fact, this post may be considered misongystic.

No, Hillary owes no one an apology for Bill and Monica.

[irisblue]

3. Not my original article. Check that out with the author

Here's a twitter addy so you can take that up with him. @coreybking

[melman]

4. You posted it here

[irisblue]

5. Does that mean that every word in any article that's posted

Is the total responsibility of the DUer who posts it?
Legit ?

[melman]

7. Why not?

[irisblue]

8. Really?

You are really saying, in writing, that any article that any DUer posts must totally representst 100% of the OP views?
Wow. Wow.
Did you miss that this is a discussion board? While I may agree with 90% of an article, I should not post it b/c I disagree with ~some~ of the authors writing?

Can you explain why you feel that way? I'll listen.

[melman]

11. You read the article before posting

Yes? If so, you saw the language used and then posted it anyway. How are you not responsible for that?


btw, nowhere in your first post in this thread did you indicate any disagreement with the author, or mention the problematic language at all for that matter.

[irisblue]

12. I want to pick this up with you, b/c I'm intetested in this POV

But the main point of this article is that it's way past time for conservatives and republicans to blame HRC for her husbands actions.

[melman]

16. What point of view?

That you're responsible for what you post? What else it there to even say about it?



And yeah I get the point of the article. I just think it's bullshit that the author accuses others of misogyny one minute, and then uses misogynistic language the next.

[irisblue]

18. Diversionary tacit not going to work with me.

"That you're responsible for what you post? What else it there to even say about it? "

Wow.

I'm done.

[KentuckyWoman]

13. Stop it.

Just stop

[melman]

17. Stop what?

[Pathwalker]

19. Cute. Right wing blames Hillary, you blame Irisblue

for things neither was responsible for. Nice thread high-jack, too.

[EffieBlack]

35. Surprised?

I'm not.

[Hortensis]

10. Same here about badmouthing Monica, Raven. Of course she

should not have been having an affair with a dazzling, extremely attractive married man. But Hillary called her an adult, and that's where I leave it also. Consensual.

But I have NEVER blamed Hillary for her husband's zipper problem. And that's knowing she married him with full awareness that that was part of the package. They had far more in common than a coupling for support and reproductive fidelity, and, with all her opportunities, for her this remarkable man was the one. I don't second-guess her choice. They both had many people to choose from and decided on each other with their eyes open.

[JHan]

26. agree +++

[Adrahil]

20. I admit that Monica seems suspicious to me...

Why did she keep a semen encrusted dress and not wash it? As a sovenier(gross) or for a rainy day?

I mean, who does that!?

[Raven123]

22. I do not know.

But implying a sinister motive is exactly what the GOP did to Hillary. Remember the emails? Labeling someone requires more than suspicion in my opinion.

[Adrahil]

24. Yeah, but....

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The dress thing IS suspicious! I can’t think of an innocent explanation of it.

[Raven123]

27. Look around. You might find one even if you can't think of one

[Adrahil]

28. Or, ya know, she did have a motive.... NT

[Duppers]

40. That ripped me too.

The author's intent was nasty and most wrongheaded!

But "ole huzzy" is one of my hub's humorous nicknames for me, which I consider a compliment. (Decades ago, his psycho mother used to try to insult me by calling me that - little did she know that she cracked us up.)
He's an old sweetie.

[KCDebbie]

6. Sec Clinton should refuse too answer anymore questions about her husband's affairs,

Monica Lewinsky, Benghazi, Travelgate, Whitewater and Vince Foster...

[irisblue]

9. Yep. They are both seperate people and have seperate POVs & actions.

[mnhtnbb]

14. The right wing--especially the evangelicals--will NEVER stop

asking Hillary "why", or attacking Hillary, or criticizing Hillary about the Bill/Monica sexual escapade.

It's in their value system: men aren't responsible for their actions (especially when the penis is involved) because they buy into the Eve and the apple story. It is always the woman's fault.

This is why they are so intent on controlling women. If the women are under control, then the men don't have to be responsible for letting their dicks do their thinking for them.

[Blue Owl]

15. I don't see anyone asking Melanoma to account for Donny's wayward button mushroom

n/t

[Hermit-The-Prog]

39. Melania is not powerful and effective

HRC terrifies the right-wing cons. She's tough, powerful, and very effective. You can measure how good she is by how much money, effort, and time they have spent attacking her.

[renate]

21. I can't imagine how painful--and unfair--it is for her to have to *defend* his affair

It's ridiculous how he got away scot free while Hilary and Monica are still getting grilled about it all the time, and Hilary has paid a political as well as a personal price for it. If he had any class at all, in 2016 he would have done an interview and taken full responsibility for it and fallen on his knees in gratitude for Hilary's forgiving him.

I disagree very much with the tone this article's author takes towards Monica. She was a very young (and single) woman and he was the most powerful man in the world. Admittedly, she knew he was married, so she did a terrible thing. But he's the one who voluntarily and freely broke his vows. I think Monica would very much like to move on (and she politely walked off the stage at a recent event when she had been promised the affair wouldn't be brought up, and that promise was broken in front of an audience). It makes me sick the way that these two women, one of them the betrayed wife, get more crap for his behavior than he does.

[aikoaiko]

23. I think HRC should just do the "no comment" response to the affair or how it was handled

There really aren't any good ways for her to answer the questions.

[JHan]

25. the question should not be asked of her in the first place.

there are no good ways to answer such a question by the wife who was cheated on.

I mean seriously. As if "no comment" would have been better in this case. I think some elements in the media need an exorcism .. I think the clintons haunt them at night.

[aikoaiko]

30. Given MeToo and Gillibrand statements I think the questions are fair if HRC is doing interviews

I just don't think she's (or anyone) could respond in a way that doesn't open her up to more criticism.

Its a trap for her.

[JHan]

31. MeToo is about sexual assault and non-consent...

it's disingenuous to frame the Lewinsky-Clinton affair in those terms - not even Monica does that, she's suggested her experience doesn't fit into MeToo.

[aikoaiko]

33. It was consensual, but one of them had to lose their job at the Whitehouse.

I think the MeToo context is relevant to these questions.

We can learn from our mistakes.

[JHan]

34. The amazing thing to me is that people are acting like there weren't consequences.

Clinton was impeached, there was a 70 million dollar investigation. You have people acting like there wasn't a "reckoning" , there was.. and the abuse Monica suffered happened once the affair became public. There are intriguing arguments in support of the idea he should have resigned ( politically some have merit) but at this point in time, what else do people what? What new questions are to be asked?

Books have been written, by both Clintons about this episode. Monica has written books.

The only purpose for all this is to find ways to continue an almost ritualistic humiliation of Hillary Clinton, requiring she talk about a painful episode in both her life and Chelsea's. There is no "good answer" that will satisfy the unquenchable thirst for this kind of spectacle. ....

Like how many times are they gonna ask the same question in a million different ways?

[aikoaiko]

36. I agree there is no good answer which was really all I wanted to say.

But the reckoning was for lying under oath and not the relationship between a president and intern.

In the late 1990s I didn't want to see Bill resign for either mistake because I thought him being in office was more important than paying for those mistakes. I think some people are wondering if that was the right choice.

[JHan]

38. well that's a strange distinction...

the lying came about as a result of the relationship. In any case, the person to answer for the relationship is Bill ( and Monica- she was an "adult" and she admits she "pursued" him, and she's talked extensively about the affair). But he had the greater responsibility then, and now, to answer for his actions. The affair itself was unethical because a President should not break boundaries in the work place and indulge in sex with an intern. what is the suitable punishment now for this? After impeachment?

Media heads should spend more time contemplating how they abused Monica and helped make her a national punchline.

[Kajun Gal]

29. Trump and the Republicans are totally obsessed with Bill and Hillary. It's weird.

[Elwood P Dowd]

32. It's as if The Arkansas Project never ended.

The repukes started it when I was in my 40s. Now in my 70s, and it's still active.

[tavernier]

37. The Clintons aren't running for office.

Apparently the OP wasn’t aware of this.