Sat Oct 20, 2018, 01:00 PM
jodymarie aimee (3,975 posts)
Nancy Reagan throws party weekend of JFK assasination and forbids any conversation regarding same...
I was reading this on the treadmill this AM and thought I would share it with you. Republicans have always been dicks....
On Friday, Nov 22, 1963, when the 46 year old President of the United States was assassinated in Dallas, Texas, the lights went out for Americans. Businesses and schools closed as the country sank int a miasma of mourning. Around the globe, flags were lowered to half-staff. ..England, Kenya, West Berlin, Athens, Russia..... In Hollywood a personal memorial service was scheduled on Sunday evening by Sam Goldwyn. One of the invitees Frank McCarthy mentioned he was invited to a party that night at the Reagans. "I'm sure the Reagans will cancel their party now because of the President's assassination, don't you think? I'll call Nancy and find out" Mrs. Reagan was quite surprised by his phone call. "My heavens Why would we cancel our party just because John F Kennedy died? Don't be silly. We'll expect to see you around 7PM." McCarthy uncomfortable about attending, nevertheless rang the Reagans' doorbell at the appointed hour, and was somewhat taken aback when Nancy answered. "There's to be no discussion of you-know-what....and I mean no discussion whatsoever." ........from Nancy Reagan the Unauthorized Biography.
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jodymarie aimee | Oct 2018 | OP |
madaboutharry | Oct 2018 | #1 | |
mobeau69 | Oct 2018 | #4 | |
wishstar | Oct 2018 | #13 | |
mobeau69 | Oct 2018 | #18 | |
MicaelS | Oct 2018 | #20 | |
FSogol | Oct 2018 | #22 | |
jodymarie aimee | Oct 2018 | #32 | |
MicaelS | Oct 2018 | #33 | |
MaryMagdaline | Oct 2018 | #2 | |
Cha | Oct 2018 | #19 | |
Raine | Oct 2018 | #21 | |
MaryMagdaline | Oct 2018 | #23 | |
Raine | Oct 2018 | #24 | |
MaryMagdaline | Oct 2018 | #31 | |
mobeau69 | Oct 2018 | #3 | |
Retrograde | Oct 2018 | #8 | |
underpants | Oct 2018 | #9 | |
underpants | Oct 2018 | #12 | |
RockRaven | Oct 2018 | #5 | |
empedocles | Oct 2018 | #6 | |
smirkymonkey | Oct 2018 | #17 | |
Ohiogal | Oct 2018 | #7 | |
mountain grammy | Oct 2018 | #10 | |
mnhtnbb | Oct 2018 | #11 | |
kskiska | Oct 2018 | #14 | |
BeckyDem | Oct 2018 | #15 | |
Power 2 the People | Oct 2018 | #16 | |
keithbvadu2 | Oct 2018 | #25 | |
empedocles | Oct 2018 | #26 | |
Major Nikon | Oct 2018 | #34 | |
no_hypocrisy | Oct 2018 | #27 | |
kimbutgar | Oct 2018 | #28 | |
TheBlackAdder | Oct 2018 | #35 | |
Rollo | Oct 2018 | #29 | |
Srkdqltr | Oct 2018 | #30 |
Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 01:07 PM
madaboutharry (35,714 posts)
1. Republicans hated JFK.
He was despised by republicans. In Texas, in preparation for his visit, wanted posters accusing him of treason were hung up around Dallas. Nancy reacted the same way as others in the republican party did. They felt nothing. Some were certainly happy about it.
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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #1)
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 01:18 PM
mobeau69 (7,657 posts)
4. Growing up, we never had a bottle of Hunt's Ketchup or anything else they sold in our house.
I still won't to this day.
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Response to mobeau69 (Reply #4)
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 03:34 PM
wishstar (4,598 posts)
13. What does that have to do with Kennedy assassination?
Curious, since the Hunt brothers who created the ketchup were from California with no connection to Dallas or oilman H.L. Hunt of Texas and the tomato growing Hunt's sold their operation a long time ago. By the time of the Kennedy assassination the Wesson company owned the product name Hunt's.
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Response to wishstar (Reply #13)
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 05:29 PM
mobeau69 (7,657 posts)
18. Apparently my bad, wishstar.
I remember Mom and Dad discussing this question in the early 60's when I was a little kid. Somehow I took it that they were one and the same because Mom never bought Hunt's ketchup. She must have had another reason. Unfortunately, I can't ask her because she passed away in 2002. Regardless, thanks for setting me straight after all of these years! I hate it when I do that!
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Response to mobeau69 (Reply #4)
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 06:11 PM
MicaelS (8,577 posts)
20. Good for you, Hunts ketchup sucks.
Heinz 57 is the ONLY ketchup.
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Response to MicaelS (Reply #20)
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 06:14 PM
FSogol (41,000 posts)
22. +1. Totally agree. n/t
Response to MicaelS (Reply #20)
Sun Oct 21, 2018, 04:38 AM
jodymarie aimee (3,975 posts)
32. I don't understand comment
the only connection I make to the ketchup is John Kerry. John Kerry and his wife Teresa Heinz Kerry, the Heinz ketchup heiresst ...
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Response to jodymarie aimee (Reply #32)
Sun Oct 21, 2018, 07:19 PM
MicaelS (8,577 posts)
33. Simple...
I consider Hunt's ketchup to be a poor example of ketchup. I would eat it only if no other ketchup is available. Heinz 57 is simply the best tomato ketchup sold.
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Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 01:07 PM
MaryMagdaline (6,070 posts)
2. My family lived in Santa Maria CA. In 1963
My sister came home crying on the day of the assassination. Some of the kids were saying, “Yay, Kennedy is dead.” My mother had a parent teacher conference that day, told the teacher she almost didn’t come and the teacher said, “Why? People die every day.”
California was a hot-bed of right wingers then. Not the California we know now. |
Response to MaryMagdaline (Reply #2)
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 05:44 PM
Cha (269,204 posts)
19. I heard it on the radio, when I was 19, driving in Phoenix, AZ and had to
pull of the side of the road I was crying so hard.
I wasn't even into politics then.. not until decades later. I was just really devasted that JFK the person and the POTUS was assassinated. It was shocking, of course. |
Response to MaryMagdaline (Reply #2)
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 06:12 PM
Raine (25,928 posts)
21. I was in Ca too (still am) going to a private elementary school in LA County
the principal came in and said President Kennedy has been killed and the kids cheered "hurray, yah etc etc". The principal got after them and then said he was going outside to lower the flag, that was it.
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Response to Raine (Reply #21)
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 06:18 PM
MaryMagdaline (6,070 posts)
23. That still hurts me - the celebration of the kids
I was 4. That was first encounter with evil people. I didn’t see it live (the cheering kids) but it hurt nonetheless. My parents voted for Nixon but came to love Kennedy and it was like a death in the family.
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Response to MaryMagdaline (Reply #23)
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 06:38 PM
Raine (25,928 posts)
24. It still bothers me, my parents were Nixon voters too
but were horrified by what happened. I remember just sitting there with those kids cheering around me, I was in shock. I would like to think that they were just too young to understand death but I understood it perfectly and we were all the same age.
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Response to Raine (Reply #24)
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 09:08 PM
MaryMagdaline (6,070 posts)
31. You're right. We knew it was evil
Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 01:09 PM
mobeau69 (7,657 posts)
3. The NFL played their full slate of games that weekend.
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Response to mobeau69 (Reply #3)
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 02:17 PM
Retrograde (7,669 posts)
8. Very little can stop the NFL
In 1989, the 49ers played a few days after the Loma Prieta earthquake: their stadium was damaged so they had to borrow Stanford's. The NFL doesn't let little things like major earthquakes get in the way of their revenue stream. (The World Series, which was going on at the time, was postponed for about a month)
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Response to Retrograde (Reply #8)
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 02:25 PM
underpants (160,565 posts)
9. Pete Rozelle said that was the biggest mistake he ever made
He said it took them years to recover from it
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Response to mobeau69 (Reply #3)
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 02:47 PM
underpants (160,565 posts)
12. Gilligan's Island
![]() The pilot was filmed in November 1963. On the final day of production in Hawaii, the cast and crew learned of John F. Kennedy's assassination. There is a small, subtle reminder of this historical incident seen on the series. In the opening credits of the first season, as the Minnow pulls out of the harbor, the United States flag can be seen flying at half mast. |
Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 01:52 PM
RockRaven (8,086 posts)
5. She was a moral monster in many ways, this is just one small tidbit of ugliness and selfishness.
She got a pass from a lot of people when she was First Lady and after because she was a little old white lady. I say f--- that.
She was a sociopath -- her position on drugs was privileged unjustifiable callous indifference, her behavior in re: HIV/AIDS was an abomination. As an anecdote of the same, look up Rock Hudson's death and the Reagan's refusal to help him get treatment -- on the grounds that they could not do special favors for friends from Hollywood, just about the only incident in which they withheld special treatment for their friends/colleagues and made this excuse. |
Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 02:03 PM
empedocles (11,901 posts)
6. also known as 'Nasty Nancy'
hit her young daughter in face with a hairbrush
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Response to empedocles (Reply #6)
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 04:04 PM
smirkymonkey (58,505 posts)
17. Sounds like my mom.
Same name too.
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Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 02:08 PM
Ohiogal (18,324 posts)
7. At Thanksgiving,
in the year when it was the 50th anniversary of JFK's death, my brother-in-law sat in my living room and matter-of-factly stated that JFK's death meant nothing to him at that time because "I never liked the guy." My husband and I had to pick our jaws up off the floor.
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Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 02:31 PM
mountain grammy (22,702 posts)
10. Yes, and with the new Cheney film coming out
we can also remember that 8 year nightmare.. Of course this one is so bad, it's hard to remember how evil the GOP has been forever in my memory, but evil they were are are.
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Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 02:42 PM
mnhtnbb (27,877 posts)
11. I grew up in a Republican family.
Both my parents were die-hard Republicans.
When I came home from school and asked my mother--and her mother who was visiting us at the time--whether they'd heard the news and then told them that JFK had been assassinated, my mother said, "It's about time!". Her mother, my grandmother, was appalled. I was the only person in the family glued to the TV that weekend. Everybody else acted like it was a normal weekend. When Ronnie became president, my mother had a photo of him hung on our kitchen wall. I could hardly stand to be in the house by that time. My brother has continued to be a die hard Republican. He supported the orange one. I no longer initiate any communication with him. Fortunately, it's easy since he lives in California and I live in North Carolina. His children tell me that the reason he refuses to ever support anyone but Republicans is because of "taxes". It's all about the money with him and I believe it. When I moved my father here (from CA) after my mom died I asked him if he would like to join me in a gift of money to the one aide in the nursing home where he lived (he had a post operative dementia and needed 24 hour care) who was always so nice to him--and his personal favorite--my brother declined. My brother never once--in almost 18 months my dad lived here before he died--came to visit him. Not once. And he traveled a lot for work. It wouldn't have been too difficult for him to stop over occasionally to see him. My brother once was making plans to come see me (years after our dad died) when he found out it would cost him an extra $900. to change his ticket and he told me "it wasn't worth it". I can't tell you how many times I flew at Christmas to visit him and brought one of our boys with me. I'm sure it cost me more than $900. over the years. I can believe it. All about the money. Greedy. |
Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 03:42 PM
kskiska (26,415 posts)
14. I remember reading an account of Ronnie & Nancy riding in a motorcade
to their ranch and there was a traffic tie-up. When they finally reached the reason for the delay - two black men pushing a disabled car - Nancy said to Ron, "Well, that figures."
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Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 03:43 PM
BeckyDem (5,355 posts)
15. They were disgusting people, they were also actors who played as nice people.
Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 03:58 PM
Power 2 the People (2,437 posts)
16. Doesn't surprise me.
Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 07:37 PM
keithbvadu2 (19,760 posts)
25. Wasn't Nancy known for her 'oral' skills?
Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #25)
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 07:54 PM
empedocles (11,901 posts)
26. So said, also was 'available'
Gave birth to RR kid while allegedly in bed w another woman. RR popular among the devoted religious voters.
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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #25)
Sun Oct 21, 2018, 07:24 PM
Major Nikon (35,304 posts)
34. Good enough to convince Ronnie to get her off the black list
Not good enough to keep from getting knocked up out of wedlock with Ronnie
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Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 07:56 PM
no_hypocrisy (37,867 posts)
27. Guess who else showed up for that party?
John Wayne and James Stewart.
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Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 07:59 PM
kimbutgar (15,010 posts)
28. Nancy always came off as a goody two shoes
She was not she got around and trapped Ronny into marrying her getting pregnant on purpose. He still pined for Jane Wyman who dumped him because he was dull. I’ve read many similar accounts about her in many different movie books.
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Response to kimbutgar (Reply #28)
Sun Oct 21, 2018, 09:23 PM
TheBlackAdder (19,898 posts)
35. Ronnie didn't have a little to do with the pregnancy?
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He didn't follow the common rule, "Never send your soldier into battle without his armor." . |
Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 08:00 PM
Rollo (2,411 posts)
29. I was in the 7th grade when the assassination happened...
I think it was during an English class that the crime was announced. Due to overcrowding, the school had set up desks in the cafeteria, and it was hard to hear the teacher. None of us kids knew what had happened. Someone came in and said something to him. It was probably when JFK's death was announced. He seemed shaken and announced the shooting and death. Then he broke down in tears. We were dismissed and told to go to the fenced in yard. Seemed like we stayed there for a couple of hours, and some kids started acting out. Finally we were told to go home, so we all go on the local buses and went home.
We didn't have a TV at the time (we had just moved cross country the previous spring), but the local newspaper was full of the information, as well as the radio. I was 11 at the time, and when I knew who JFK was, had heard the popular Vaughn Meader impersonations of JFK, but I couldn't quite wrap my brain around what had happened. It was abstract to me. But I knew the world had become a sadder and even more chaotic place. It's never seemed quite the same since then. The end of Camelot. |
Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 08:26 PM
Srkdqltr (1,897 posts)
30. I was working
at J.L. Hudson Co in the Detroit area. When it was announced that JFK was dead the store cleared out. There were no customers all afternoon. They closed the store at 5.
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