I'm starting to come around to a Harris-Brown ticket in 2020

[DemocratSinceBirth]

especially if Cordray becomes OH gov.

[UniteFightBack]

1. Except it will be Biden/Harris. nt

[Sugarcoated]

17. Now that's the ticket

[onetexan]

26. I like the sound of that too

[trueblue2007]

19. Joe and Kammy .... I love it.

[pnwmom]

24. Nope. Harris/O'Rourke.

[Tarc]

41. Old, White, Male

I'm only supporting in 2020 someone with at most one of those criteria. In a dire pinch if no one else steps up, two. We've had enough of the triple play, I'd like to see more diverse blood at the top of the party.

[dem4decades]

2. Nothing wrong with that.

I've always been thinking Biden-Harris but who knows?

[jcgoldie]

3. sounds good.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. It's her or Cory Booker.

I would be happy with most of the names being mentioned but Harris-Brown offers ideological balance. Kamala is more of a conventional liberal and Brown is more of a populist.

[lunamagica]

4. Sounds good, except I don't believe anymore that this country is ready for a woman

at the top of the ticket.

Please, don't anybody tell me that the problem was that with *that* woman. The sexism was palpable. It was a rude awakening for me, but it was clear.

I'm convinced that many of those who switched from Obama to trump was because they couln't cast their votes for a woman.

[WA-03 Democrat]

6. I agree

Misogyny is the understated factor in Clinton’s loss in 2016. White dude for 4 years to right the ship. Biden runs the country while Harris prosecutes the treasonous lot full time and then runs and wins in 2024

[pnwmom]

25. Biden is too much of a genial glad-hander to beat Trump. He wants everyone to like him

and so he's made some bad compromises -- like how he treated Anita Hill.

Millions of older women have not forgotten -- and got reminded of that miserable experience by the Christine Blasey debacle.

And we vote.

[JI7]

31. not true. he kicked paul Ryan's ass. but lack of support from black women could hurt him

[pnwmom]

34. What are you talking about? Paul Ryan wasn't even on the Senate Judiciary committee

that mistreated Anita Hill. He's in the House.

Anita Hill had to face down a wall of men, including Strom Thurmond, Chuck Grassley, Orrin Hatch, Allen Simpson, Arlen Spector, and Hank Brown, with little help from Joe Biden. He had "promised" Thurmond that he'd conclude the hearing on a certain date (after a few days of hearings) and he kept his promise -- even though that meant preventing two of Anita's corroborating witnesses from testifying. But he did find the time to allow GOP witnesses to testify about her supposed "erotomania."

[JI7]

38. I'm talking about the vp candidate debate.

[pnwmom]

39. Which has nothing to do with the post of mine you responded to. n/t

[JI7]

40. yes it does. becsuse it shows he can easily be tough and not worry about being liked

so he can beat trump.

[dottie66]

27. Misogyny is still a factor

I like Biden-Harris, that's a good combo for 2020

[Ohiogal]

29. I agree with you 100% lunamagica.

[llmart]

30. I don't agree.

This country wasn't "ready" for a black man either, but there you have it.

There's a first time for everything, and it's about damned time it's a woman.

[USALiberal]

32. It sucks, but I agree, a female VP would help break that mold. nt

[MrsCoffee]

35. The "that" woman argument fades when you see them now attacking Elizabeth Warren.

Same folks... same shit.

[Control-Z]

7. Lately, I've been thinking Brown/Harris would be a winning ticket.

I'm not sure of which Brown you speak. I'm talking about Gov. Jerry Brown. There's an ad that's been running on MSNBC for their Sunday night show about him. Every time I see it I am more convinced he is the one man who could just destroy the WH squatter.

He's smart, all business, and has been successful running California. We have the 5th largest economy in the world and have a budget surplus. His age is against him, though. And I don't know about his name recognition outside of California.

With Harris, of course, I'm talking about Kamala, also from California.

[shanny]

8. POTUS and Veep can't be from the same state--just an fyi

(Darth evaded this rule by claiming WY residency, even tho he hadn't lived there for decades).

In any case, I'd rather see Sherrod Brown / Harris.

[Totally Tunsie]

12. That's not quite true. Candidates may be from the same state,

but that state's electors may not vote for both of them. Electors from other states may, however.

Per Snopes:

Article II (as well as the Twelfth Amendment, which modified it) specified that electors must “vote by ballot for two persons, of whom one at least shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves,” a requirement that guaranteed at least half of each state’s electoral votes would be cast for candidates from other states.

This requirement is still in effect today, but confusion arises when people misunderstand it to govern the actions of candidates rather than electors. Nothing in the constitution bars presidential and vice-presidential candidates from the same state from running, being elected, or holding office together; it only bars the electors from their home state from voting for both of them.

For example, suppose the Republican party nominated for their national ticket a pair of candidates who both hailed from the state of Nevada. If the Republican ticket received the most popular votes in that state in the general election, Nevada’s electors could not cast ballots for both candidates — for at least one of the two offices (presumably vice-president), each of Nevada’s electors would have to vote for someone off the ticket who was not a resident of Nevada. Republican electors in every state other than Nevada, however, would be free to vote for both candidates

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/favorite-sons/

On a lesser note, while it is possible, it's not geographically desirable to have candidates from the same state as many then argue that the interests of that segment of the nation are being unfairly represented. IOW, it's better to have a balance of thought, economics, ethnicity, etc, resulting from divergent states being represented on a ticket.

[jmowreader]

37. Considering the state we're talking about, that would make things very difficult

Losing 54 EV would change everything.

Thinking out loud...how about Jay Inslee, governor of Washington, and Roy Cooper, governor of North Carolina?

[Totally Tunsie]

42. Yes, I understand the loss of 54 EV.

I was just responding to the assertion that candidates may not be from the same state. The votes, of course, are another matter indeed.

2020 should be an exciting year for our Dems - so much interesting young talent in the wings. But, FIRST the mid-terms...

[Recursion]

9. Jerry Brown is a thousand years old; they mean Sherrod

Brown is pretty much leaving politics at this point. Plus he's twelve hundred years old. He's talking about aqueducts for God's sake. He knew John C. Fremont.

[TexasBushwhacker]

36. I like Sherrod Brown n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

16. You can't have two people from the same state on the ticket.

You would have to surrender all California's 55 Electoral College Votes.

[Sugarcoated]

18. Earlier in the year I was liking a Jerry Brown/Al Franken ticket

But Jerry Brown/Kamala Harris works

[rainy]

10. Beto and Warren. No elder white, establishment men

[Tom Rinaldo]

11. That's one that sounds good to me also

Strong and gritty. Balanced and compatible.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

14. A progressive and a populist.

[ProudLib72]

13. Brown/Harris or Harris/Brown?

I'm down either way, but which one gets more people out voting?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. I doubt Sherrod Brown can win a Democratic primary. Kamala Harris can.

[Garrett78]

20. Harris-Brown, Harris-Murphy, Harris-Castro, Harris-Klobuchar.

Just as long as Harris leads the ticket. Turnout will be huge.

[jcgoldie]

22. Harris & Klobuchar would be so awesome

I really like Klobuchar but I don't know if she's flashy enough to top the ticket... especially against a d-bag like Trump, I doubt she's mean enough but she would be awesome to balance the ticket.

[Garrett78]

23. There's that part of me that worries about having 2 women or 2 persons of color.

And another part of me that thinks it might actually boost turnout for our side.

But I've long felt that Harris-Brown might be the best way to go. I'm confident that Kamala will inspire huge Democratic turnout.

I have zero interest in Biden, Sanders, etc.

[Roland99]

21. We.do have good governors, too

Why is it always an infatuation with Senators?

[slumcamper]

28. Harris. History has called on her.

The fierce urgency of NOW.

Once in a lifetime the tidal wave of justice rises up, and hope and history rhyme.

She's here in Iowa tomorrow (Des Moines) and Tuesday (Cedar Rapids).

Gotta. GO.

[Squinch]

33. Where's TAMMY DUCKWORTH in your figuring? Because she's the 2021 President of my dreams.

If you make me, though, I'd happily vote for a Harris/Brown ticket.

[ooky]

43. That would be one of my favorite possible tickets.