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Ninga

(8,275 posts)
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 10:35 AM Oct 2018

Nikki Haley...what did she know, and when did she know it? Haley needs to be outed?

Last edited Mon Oct 22, 2018, 11:30 AM - Edit history (2)

Today I read a FB post about Nikki Haley and the heightened speculation about her resignation.
(Posted below at *)

Is it possible the GOP leadership fronted the "noise" about her resignation being tied to Kavanaugh to save her for a presidential run?

Meanwhile the true reason she resigned is she knew about the brutal murder of Jamal Khashoggi?

The date of her resignation falls smack in the beginning of the Khashggi timeline?

Lots to read.

http://theweek.com/speedreads/800998/trump-apparently-kept-nikki-haleys-resignation-letter-secret-week

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/21/death-of-dissident-jamal-khashoggi-mohammed-bin-salman

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Jamal Khashoggi was strapped to a table and dismembered alive by Saudi Arabian henchmen on October 2. His blood curdling screams were broadcast to the outside world on his Apple Watch for the seven minutes it took to kill him.

The next day, on October 3, the U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley privately drafted her resignation letter. (Thank you, Paula Cobia). Six days later, on October 9, she submitted it to a stunned public. No plausible explanation was offered for her sudden departure.

It was not until October 11, over a week after the brutal killing, that the world began to even learn what happened to Khashoggi.

It would take almost another full week after that for details of the gruesome ambush to publicly emerge.

What is clear, is that the American government certainly knew of Khashoggi’s killing before we knew, and most certainly in advance of the murder itself. Yet the past two weeks have seen nothing less than an absurd, obsequious public cover up from the president of the United States himself and top cabinet members for this gruesome ambush by the Saudi Arabian government of somebody Trump was certainly familiar with.

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Nikki Haley...what did she know, and when did she know it? Haley needs to be outed? (Original Post) Ninga Oct 2018 OP
7 minutes.... Crutchez_CuiBono Oct 2018 #1
Yep. Important to me however, is not let in Haley skate on this. She skates when she doesn't Ninga Oct 2018 #4
+1 Power 2 the People Oct 2018 #22
At the very bottom of the Guardian article is the timeline of events. Haley's resignation Ninga Oct 2018 #2
missing from the equation... ewagner Oct 2018 #21
I sensed something was up with the timing of her resignation last week. OrlandoDem2 Oct 2018 #3
Yep, that was rat you were smelling. The Guardian does a very throurgh job of laying it Ninga Oct 2018 #5
I smelled it also Horse with no Name Oct 2018 #25
We can not stand by and let Haley skate on this. Could it be that tRump is in heightened Ninga Oct 2018 #6
Wo! This sounds just too plausible!!!!! LAS14 Oct 2018 #7
Don't know the answer to your questions. Public denouncement of the Saudi's would be a start. Ninga Oct 2018 #8
#NikkiKnew blm Oct 2018 #28
When DEMs get in, we can have a hearing with Niccki and read her emails, etc. If she NCjack Oct 2018 #9
Yep. Why not beat the GOP at,their own game? #nickkiknew Ninga Oct 2018 #10
I had the exact same thought firstwife Oct 2018 #11
Maybe she is afraid Scarsdale Oct 2018 #17
Turbulent period directly ahead bucolic_frolic Oct 2018 #12
My head snapped when Haley called Kushner txwhitedove Oct 2018 #13
I never give them reasonable doubt. LakeArenal Oct 2018 #14
If she knew about it why would she resign? lunatica Oct 2018 #15
Maybe to make way Scarsdale Oct 2018 #18
Because she thinks she's smart enough (maybe) to distance herself and be above him. So Ninga Oct 2018 #19
Maybe, but that doesn't really address my question lunatica Oct 2018 #20
It won't work. She miscalculated in thinking that she could put in a couple of years... brush Oct 2018 #23
Maybe it was the last straw EffieBlack Oct 2018 #26
There's just something about her I don't trust. calimary Oct 2018 #16
My guess is that she decided she didn't want to be a member of littlemissmartypants Oct 2018 #24
Exactly what I said the day after she resigned and we were learning more blm Oct 2018 #27
Has she made any statements lately? CatMor Oct 2018 #29
We keep wanting to credit Republicans with morality or ethics. They lack. Wintryjade Oct 2018 #30
juicy and rife with strong probability - I give it a 6.5 BadGimp Oct 2018 #31

Ninga

(8,275 posts)
4. Yep. Important to me however, is not let in Haley skate on this. She skates when she doesn't
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 10:44 AM
Oct 2018

stand up to the Con.

She skates, by being a member of the Con's administration who zipped her lip and hid knowing full well the Saudi's brutally murdered a journalist.

When do we out her, and why do we let her skate?

Ninga

(8,275 posts)
2. At the very bottom of the Guardian article is the timeline of events. Haley's resignation
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 10:40 AM
Oct 2018

letter is dated Oct 3. Sits on Trump's desk for a week.

Judge for yourself.

ewagner

(18,964 posts)
21. missing from the equation...
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 12:41 PM
Oct 2018

Nikki wrote the letter the day after the murder....

What source or sources tipped her off to the murder?

What is the link?


anybody have an idea?

Ninga

(8,275 posts)
6. We can not stand by and let Haley skate on this. Could it be that tRump is in heightened
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 10:52 AM
Oct 2018

desperation mode working very very hard to bury this Koshoggi mess?

Will someone, anyone please ask Haley what she knew and when she knew it?

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
7. Wo! This sounds just too plausible!!!!!
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 10:59 AM
Oct 2018

Does anyone know the legal ramifications of this? What, if anything would she be expected to do? What would she be protected from, given her position?

Ninga

(8,275 posts)
8. Don't know the answer to your questions. Public denouncement of the Saudi's would be a start.
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 11:04 AM
Oct 2018

I say we start a hashtag

#nickkiknew

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
9. When DEMs get in, we can have a hearing with Niccki and read her emails, etc. If she
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 11:04 AM
Oct 2018

"loses them" then we can scream "lock her up" every time she appears on the political stage. She ruined herself when she signed on to Trump's Admin.

firstwife

(115 posts)
11. I had the exact same thought
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 11:34 AM
Oct 2018

yesterday. This is very very fishy. Questionable timing. Hoping for more to come out, and the walls come tumbling down. I know, I’m being overly optimistic.

bucolic_frolic

(43,161 posts)
12. Turbulent period directly ahead
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 11:42 AM
Oct 2018

There is this gruesome murder, the politics involved, an attack on journalism. Couple that with rising interest rates and a slowing economy, the elections and Trump's reaction to them, OSC looming additional events. Time to hunker down.

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
14. I never give them reasonable doubt.
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 11:45 AM
Oct 2018

Everything is calculated with the entire GOOP.

Any party that can say “what’s one life when there are contracts?” is wretched.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
15. If she knew about it why would she resign?
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 11:58 AM
Oct 2018

I don’t mean to sound naíve. What I’m asking is if she was in on the murder then why bring attention to herself? By resigning she also brings attention to Trump because if he’s not part of it then she would have no reason to resign.

Why would he accept her resignation if she was “bailing” on him?

And why in the world would resigning save her? If Trump is that cozy with murders of this kind and Putin’s kind wouldn’t it serve their self preservation interests better to be on the murderers’ side?

I think it would serve everyone’s interests to be on the side of these very high level murderers. You can’t just walk away from these people.

Ninga

(8,275 posts)
19. Because she thinks she's smart enough (maybe) to distance herself and be above him. So
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 12:28 PM
Oct 2018

she can present herself to GOP voters as refreshmenting non Trump?

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
20. Maybe, but that doesn't really address my question
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 12:38 PM
Oct 2018

If she knows real facts about the murder she’s in danger, and she would know it, so getting away from Trump’s protection (as an enabler of the the Saudis) would be idiotic.

If she doesn’t know then her resignation would make sense as a politically expedient move.

But you and the article are going on the assumption that she knew. If she did then wouldn’t she be protecting her life rather than looking to her political chances in 2 or 6 years?

brush

(53,776 posts)
23. It won't work. She miscalculated in thinking that she could put in a couple of years...
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 01:27 PM
Oct 2018

in the trump shit show, get some foreign policy chops and not get dirtied up. Nope, it doesn't work that way.

She didn't expect such barbaric killing, so now she's not just dirtied up, she's bloodied up.

Should've never signed on, but she's a repug. She got what she deserved and I'm sure it'll come out that she either knew ahead of time of the killing or right after—way before it became public.

calimary

(81,261 posts)
16. There's just something about her I don't trust.
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 12:06 PM
Oct 2018

Could simply be that it’s because she’s a republi-CON. But for me, that’s enough!

And to those who want to remind about how she’s such a good guy because she had the hate rag taken down in the main square. Well, what does she want? A medal? Besides, why the hell couldn’t she have done that BEFORE NINE INNOCENT CHURCH-GOERS WERE MASSACRED IN THEIR EVENING BIBLE STUDY MEETING!!!!!!!!!

Sorry to shout but that’s how I’d sound if I were saying this to somebody, DAMMIT!!!!!

littlemissmartypants

(22,656 posts)
24. My guess is that she decided she didn't want to be a member of
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 08:44 PM
Oct 2018

An actual crime syndicate, that is murderous. So now we know where she draws the line, at murder. Not that that absolves her of guilt in the murder.

Thanks for the post, Ninga.

♡lmsp

blm

(113,059 posts)
27. Exactly what I said the day after she resigned and we were learning more
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 08:51 PM
Oct 2018

about the disappearance. She had to have heard something about it. She is ALL about saving her own self and her political viability ....ALWAYS. ALWAYS!

 

Wintryjade

(814 posts)
30. We keep wanting to credit Republicans with morality or ethics. They lack.
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 10:10 PM
Oct 2018

We know this to be true. I do not believe she resigned because of another person's death. That is simply too human.

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