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True Dough

(17,296 posts)
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 04:02 PM Oct 2018

Ted Nugent calls his omission from the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame "sacrilege"

Eligible since 2000, the hard rocker proceeded to rant by quoting himself in the third person. “Abandon egos, bragging and Ted Nugent speaking on behalf of Ted Nugent – is it or is it not vulgar, dishonest, and obscene that Grandmaster Flash, Patti Smith and ABBA are in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, but Ted fucking Nugent isn’t?” he said in utter disbelief. “Is that the most outrageous and disgusting lie you have ever seen?”

<snip>

“Would like you to find a human being … and believe them when they say Ted Nugent should not be in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame? I would love to witness that exchange. You would see a person almost melt with guilt because you know they are lying. At the end of the day, it’s not about me – it’s about the music. James Hetfield said it best when Metallica was inducted: ‘Ted Nugent not being in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame is a joke. Ted Nugent is rock and roll’.”


https://consequenceofsound.net/2018/10/ted-nugent-rock-roll-fame-snub-crosby-beef/


Can we get some support for Mr. Cat Scratch Fever himself here, DU???

Nah, I didn't think so.

David Crosby, what are your feelings about Ted Nugent?






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Ted Nugent calls his omission from the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame "sacrilege" (Original Post) True Dough Oct 2018 OP
Ok. Place his nameplate in a urinal. TheCowsCameHome Oct 2018 #1
Well, just like Trump, I hear he does enjoy that sort of thing! Initech Oct 2018 #96
Mr. Crosby said exactly what I was thinking. spanone Oct 2018 #2
Fuck Ted Nugent and fuck James Hetfield, too... ADX Oct 2018 #3
A very basic rule I go by in music is... sdfernando Oct 2018 #4
Same thing with everything else. Initech Oct 2018 #7
I took your words and posted it on Facebook. LiberalFighter Oct 2018 #97
Nice! Initech Oct 2018 #104
And if you say you're not a racist, you're probably a racist. nt tblue37 Oct 2018 #110
That holds true for so much in life. SMC22307 Oct 2018 #101
Get over yourself pants shitter Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2018 #5
No kidding, especially with a mediocre music history like this: catbyte Oct 2018 #80
I'm sure Ted's song about fucking underage girls is something the HOF wants to associate with. Initech Oct 2018 #6
Mr shit his pants to get out of going in the service? pwb Oct 2018 #8
If Blue Oyster Cult isn't in, Ted shouldn't be anywhere close. Since his 70's double live brewens Oct 2018 #9
Rigt there w you. Crutchez_CuiBono Oct 2018 #82
And Buck Dharma (Don Roeser) Could Really Play The Guitar ProfessorGAC Oct 2018 #125
"No, the asshole isn't good enough" fishwax Oct 2018 #10
:-) CentralMass Oct 2018 #20
Billboard Hot 100: Scurrilous Oct 2018 #11
If Ted were still selling out Staples Center or the Shoreline Amphitheater, that would be one thing. Initech Oct 2018 #18
Good empirical data True Dough Oct 2018 #19
Yeah, but he had that D-list "supergroup" Adenoid_Hynkel Oct 2018 #55
To be fair with this sort of music, record sales are a lot better indicator ... mr_lebowski Oct 2018 #60
You'd lose that bet onenote Oct 2018 #83
S'why I said Album sales are a better gauge ... 6 #1 albums a better reflection mr_lebowski Oct 2018 #113
actually, zep has had 7 top 20 singles on Billboard charts onenote Oct 2018 #114
And the Replacements Adenoid_Hynkel Oct 2018 #88
MC5 being snubbed has been a personal beef of mine for a while! Docreed2003 Oct 2018 #92
Preaching to the choir on the 'Mats as well ... though their career was brief ... mr_lebowski Oct 2018 #112
The Smiths, The Cure, and Joy Division/New Order were pretty much the soundtrack Neema Oct 2018 #118
I'm right with you Neema, plus U2, REM, Replacements, Femmes, Talking Heads, Police, INXS, Boingo mr_lebowski Oct 2018 #119
Ooh! I'll check it out. Thanks! I grew up listening to Neema Oct 2018 #123
Yup, I like most of those bands too ... mr_lebowski Oct 2018 #127
Vince Clarke, IKR? Totally underrated. Neema Oct 2018 #129
Glad you like ... mr_lebowski Oct 2018 #130
Is he referring to himself in the third person? treestar Oct 2018 #12
That's a sign of a mental health issue Fritz Walter Oct 2018 #87
"George is getting angry!" (n/t) SMC22307 Oct 2018 #98
Ted, please read the sign above the R&RHOF entrance ... lpbk2713 Oct 2018 #13
The HOF criteria: onenote Oct 2018 #14
I beg to differ mikeysnot Oct 2018 #26
But in the wrong way. Of course, that is his intent. LiberalFighter Oct 2018 #99
Ted has none of those things TexasBushwhacker Oct 2018 #70
So a talent-free fascist gun-sucker like Nugent should get into the Hall Of Fame..... Paladin Oct 2018 #15
Haha.. ted nugent.. What A LOSER. Cha Oct 2018 #16
Warren Zevon is 1,000x the artist Ted could ever dream of John Fante Oct 2018 #17
There are a LOT of musicians who are better than Ted who aren't in the HOF jmowreader Oct 2018 #48
For sure. John Fante Oct 2018 #93
Bing Crosby cofounded Ampex - the tape recorder and recording tape company. Mike Rows His Boat Oct 2018 #128
Joan Jett Isn't In ProfessorGAC Oct 2018 #126
Where he needs to be is in the Bowhunting Hall of Fame jmowreader Oct 2018 #21
Inflicting long, painful deaths on beautiful wild animals. Paladin Oct 2018 #28
Who do you think is in the Bowhunting Hall of Fame? jmowreader Oct 2018 #32
So go hang out with Nugent, if he's so goddamn "knowledgeable and pleasant." Paladin Oct 2018 #50
Nugent was busted Mendocino Oct 2018 #122
He should focus his energies on the receiving end of an embalmer. LiberalFighter Oct 2018 #100
I call it great! You don't deserve a place in those hallowed halls. How bout adm to Thekaspervote Oct 2018 #22
The HOF is waiting for Commander Crappy Pants to pen the song about avoiding Vietnam. Hassler Oct 2018 #23
Sorry Ted, they don't have an "Asshole" Induction Category. Buns_of_Fire Oct 2018 #24
Teddy-boy Shittypants... Raster Oct 2018 #25
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA Thank you David Crosby. BeckyDem Oct 2018 #27
I call it evidence supporting the existence of God. n/t Downtown Hound Oct 2018 #29
You know what the worst left out band is d_r Oct 2018 #30
Jann Wenner snubs early 80s new wave Adenoid_Hynkel Oct 2018 #47
The cure d_r Oct 2018 #59
Are they?!? YAY!!! mr_lebowski Oct 2018 #66
Personally d_r Oct 2018 #117
Unless they're NY based ... that's usually a leg-up. mr_lebowski Oct 2018 #68
No B-52's?! smirkymonkey Oct 2018 #85
they let black people and women in! KayF Oct 2018 #31
The Rock HOF should induct the GUESS WHO Zambero Oct 2018 #33
He's got it wrong .... CatMor Oct 2018 #34
This idiot does not belong in any hall of fame Gothmog Oct 2018 #35
LOL He seriously thinks he's more deserving than Patti fucking Smith? Adenoid_Hynkel Oct 2018 #36
This is almost funny. Hulk Oct 2018 #37
Link Wray nominated, but did not get in Dr Vegas Oct 2018 #38
Is there a Pedophile Hall of Fame... GReedDiamond Oct 2018 #39
poor little snowflake nt elmac Oct 2018 #40
Let's see. A couple of hits in the 70's? madinmaryland Oct 2018 #41
Dude, seriously? You can get in for twenty-one bucks. TygrBright Oct 2018 #42
I'm 48 and can say... sfwriter Oct 2018 #43
Cat Scratch Fever is the biggie. BigmanPigman Oct 2018 #52
Thanks a lot! tavernier Oct 2018 #86
This performance is embarrassing! Nugent isn't even a good poser. FuzzyRabbit Oct 2018 #91
I'm 55 and can say... jmowreader Oct 2018 #54
My point is... sfwriter Oct 2018 #63
I'm 69 and never heard him once on the radio. llmart Oct 2018 #84
Notice how all the right-wingers wallow in self-pity today? CaptainTruth Oct 2018 #44
Nugent is a HOF asshole, but I have to admit I still love Journey to the Center of the Mind mtnsnake Oct 2018 #45
Anthony Bourdain said that his Nugent episode of BigmanPigman Oct 2018 #46
Gotta admire Bourdain True Dough Oct 2018 #62
Me too... BigmanPigman Oct 2018 #67
Who's Ted Nugent? oh, I remember elmac Oct 2018 #49
Sacrilege? Wounded Bear Oct 2018 #51
Another Lying Ted rusty fender Oct 2018 #53
Crying Ted in this case, IMO True Dough Oct 2018 #64
CAT SCRATCH FEVER LuckyCharms Oct 2018 #56
On the Plus Side, Ted--You ARE In the ASSHOLE Hall of Fame! DoctorJoJo Oct 2018 #57
Ted Nugent belongs in the gun-humper, racist Hall of Fame, and that's about it. Hoyt Oct 2018 #58
Politics aside, he and the Amboy Dukes SHOULD be in the HOF maxsolomon Oct 2018 #61
I loved Bon Jovi! True Dough Oct 2018 #65
KISS is in and Blue Oyster Cult is not? maveric Oct 2018 #76
If he wants to blame liberals for holding him back from his vaunted HOF induction Mr. Ected Oct 2018 #69
If it comes down to The Shaggs and Butt Nugent ProudLib72 Oct 2018 #71
I remember a live show I saw featuring The Shaggs on the PA during the break hatrack Oct 2018 #131
New Category? Firestorm49 Oct 2018 #72
Regardless of his politics BobTheSubgenius Oct 2018 #73
Dear Ted, catbyte Oct 2018 #74
Nugent is a piece of what he did in his pants AZ Jim Oct 2018 #75
I call it hygiene sandensea Oct 2018 #77
I call it both fitting and proper. calimary Oct 2018 #78
... NurseJackie Oct 2018 #79
Actually, it's because you suck, wangotangoman! 2naSalit Oct 2018 #81
Ted Pungent... a legend in his own mind. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2018 #89
Based on his musicianship world wide wally Oct 2018 #90
Who? Amimnoch Oct 2018 #94
He's already in the Hall of Fucksticks Blue Owl Oct 2018 #95
I think that the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame can accommodate and honor Mr. Nugent... davepdx Oct 2018 #102
A Special Award for Ted: Bronzed Fecal-Caked Pants. VOX Oct 2018 #103
He's not in the RRHOF because nobody wants him there. Progressive Jones Oct 2018 #105
Fuck. Off. Ted. JHan Oct 2018 #106
Other than the pedophilia song MaryMagdaline Oct 2018 #107
You Still Stink of Crap, Ted. MineralMan Oct 2018 #108
If Ted Nugent's music was any good he'd be in the Hall of Fame. But it sucks! Kajun Gal Oct 2018 #109
Don't forget 90-percent Oct 2018 #111
Maybe Ted should try dying to get the pity vote. Solly Mack Oct 2018 #115
Mettalica shouldn't be in the Hall of fame Demonaut Oct 2018 #116
They should create a special Lifetime Mediocrity Award for him Tarc Oct 2018 #120
Grandmaster Flash, ABBA, and Patti Smith all contributed something of value to rock music. Initech Oct 2018 #121
Good For David Crosby ProfessorGAC Oct 2018 #124
 

ADX

(1,622 posts)
3. Fuck Ted Nugent and fuck James Hetfield, too...
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 04:14 PM
Oct 2018

...If Hetfield felt so strongly about Nugent's exclusion, he could have refused induction until Nugent was voted in...

sdfernando

(4,929 posts)
4. A very basic rule I go by in music is...
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 04:14 PM
Oct 2018

if you have to toot your own horn about how good you are, then you aren't that good.

...and that goes double if you are trying to get some kind of award or recognition.


sorry ted n....but we just aren't that into you.

Initech

(100,059 posts)
7. Same thing with everything else.
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 04:19 PM
Oct 2018

If you have to tout how patriotic you are, you're not patriotic.

If you have to tout how religious you are, you're not religious.

If you have to tout how much of a "stable genius" you are, you're neither stable, nor a genius.

And so on.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
101. That holds true for so much in life.
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 07:22 PM
Oct 2018

Drumpf especially comes to mind, along with the life's losers who have glommed on to him.

pwb

(11,258 posts)
8. Mr shit his pants to get out of going in the service?
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 04:21 PM
Oct 2018

His music stunk like his pants. A one hit blunder.

brewens

(13,559 posts)
9. If Blue Oyster Cult isn't in, Ted shouldn't be anywhere close. Since his 70's double live
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 04:22 PM
Oct 2018

album, Ted has had two songs I can think of that did anything. Wango Tango and Fred Bear. Not exactly timeless classics.

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
10. "No, the asshole isn't good enough"
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 04:24 PM
Oct 2018

That's what Crosby said last year when he was asked if it was politics keeping Nugent out of the Hall of Fame


?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fultimateclassicrock.com%2Fted-nugent-david-crosby-hall-of-fame%2F

Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
11. Billboard Hot 100:
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 04:24 PM
Oct 2018
Cat Scratch Fever

Ted Nugent

Peaked at #30 on 10.8.1977


Yank Me, Crank Me

Ted Nugent

Peaked at #58 on 4.22.1978


Home Bound

Ted Nugent

Peaked at #70 on 2.18.1978


Hey Baby

Ted Nugent

Peaked at #72 on 4.24.1976


Need You Bad

Ted Nugent

Peaked at #84 on 1.13.1979


Wango Tango

Ted Nugent

Peaked at #86 on 8.2.1980


Dog Eat Dog

Ted Nugent

Peaked at #91 on 11.27.1976

https://www.billboard.com/music/ted-nugent/chart-history


7 songs charted between '76 and '80, none higher than #30. There's a reason he mostly plays county fairs and supermarket grand openings....he sucks and he is not Hall of Fame material.


Meanwhile ABBA charted 20 times, 4 were top 10's including one #1.

https://www.billboard.com/music/abba/chart-history

Initech

(100,059 posts)
18. If Ted were still selling out Staples Center or the Shoreline Amphitheater, that would be one thing.
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 04:40 PM
Oct 2018

These days Ted could barely fill a crowd the size of the Hooters across the street from Staples Center.

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
55. Yeah, but he had that D-list "supergroup"
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 05:32 PM
Oct 2018

Damn Yankees with a bunch of cast offs from Styx and other shitty bands.
They had one whole almost-hit, nearly 30 years ago

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
60. To be fair with this sort of music, record sales are a lot better indicator ...
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 05:36 PM
Oct 2018

I'd be willing to bet that Led Zeppelin's list of 'singles' sales are not a whole lot more impressive.

Pretty sure they had no more than 3 singles ever crack the Billboard Top 20, if that ... those being Whole Lotta Love, Trampled Underfoot, and All My Love.

Pink Floyd's list of 'hit singles' would be a bit better by virtue of one huge hit, Another Brick in the Wall Part II, and a minor hit (at the time) Money.

That said, it's friggin OBVIOUS they're both roughly 1,000,000,000X BETTER ... than Nugent was, is, or will be.

Iron Maiden, Slayer, The Smiths, The Cure, and Joy Division/New Order are the biggest snubs to me, at the moment.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
113. S'why I said Album sales are a better gauge ... 6 #1 albums a better reflection
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 10:41 PM
Oct 2018

In rock and roll than singles performance.

Err ... 'album' is what I meant when I said 'record'.

So, I stand slightly corrected, Zep had a #4, #15, #16, and #20 single over the years make top 20. So I guessed 3, and it's really 4, and the 4th was exactly 20 ... I'z WAY off, man ... lol ... And yeah okay only got 1 song right ... but my point remains, even some of the greatest bands ever don't have all that impressive of singles sales.

How many hit singles did Black Sabbath have I wonder?

onenote

(42,680 posts)
114. actually, zep has had 7 top 20 singles on Billboard charts
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 11:14 PM
Oct 2018

In addition to the singles you list, Zep had three more top ten singles on the separate "US Rock" chart between 1990 and 1997.

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
88. And the Replacements
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 06:39 PM
Oct 2018

A biggie that is inexplicable

And the MC5 being snubbed this long is absurd.
But Wenner kept Iggy Pop out for nearly 15 years,so no surprise

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
112. Preaching to the choir on the 'Mats as well ... though their career was brief ...
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 10:36 PM
Oct 2018

W/only 3 legit great records in Let it Be, Tim, and Pleased to Meet Me ... I can see why they're arguable ... though they were a soundtrack to College for me in the late 80's ...

Neema

(1,151 posts)
118. The Smiths, The Cure, and Joy Division/New Order were pretty much the soundtrack
Tue Oct 23, 2018, 10:12 AM
Oct 2018

of my teen years. And I still listen to them today. Their music has aged incredibly well.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
119. I'm right with you Neema, plus U2, REM, Replacements, Femmes, Talking Heads, Police, INXS, Boingo
Tue Oct 23, 2018, 10:34 AM
Oct 2018

Last edited Tue Oct 23, 2018, 11:54 AM - Edit history (3)

Bauhaus/Love and Rockets, Siouxsie, Sisters of Mercy, The Alarm, Duran Duran, The Stone Roses, The Stranglers ... I could go on and on, I suppose ... lol ...

Mostly my later teens/college though, cause in me early teens I was a headbanger/classic rocker ...

So, I got a musical suggestion for ya ... one of my fave albums from 2014 ... it's SOOOOOO freaking 1980's (but good 1980's), playing and songwriting are terrific, listening to it is one long 'spot the influence' game ... this is one of my fave tracks ... I highly recommend headphones ... and high volume.

This will take you back, even though it's only a few years old. And you should check out the whole album, it's seriously ... really good ...



And another from the record I'm quite fond of ... with guest vocals from Jen Goma from Sunny Day In Glasgow



I especially like the 2nd verse of the song ... it's so wistful ... (and no, it's NOT rapey, the song's actually about a religious dude who doesn't put out, but still goes around breaking hearts)

and the touch of his body
so tender and cruel
when he made me play girlfriend
there wasn’t much I could do
then he’d come to my garret
and we’d
make something like love
the flowers he gave me have wilted
but I keep them ...
as I keep him

Neema

(1,151 posts)
123. Ooh! I'll check it out. Thanks! I grew up listening to
Tue Oct 23, 2018, 11:25 AM
Oct 2018

R&B, funk, disco, bossa nova, the Beatles and some singer-songwriters. Came from a big musical family. My brother introduced me to the Police early in their career and I was obsessed for awhile.

When I started buying my own music with baby-sitting money, I progressed from the opposite direction you did. I bought Duran Duran, Nik Kershaw, Talk Talk, Tears for Fears, OMD, General Public, Style Council, Pet Shop Boys...I loved Brit Pop that was rooted in a bit of R&B, no surprise. Then Depeche Mode, Erasure, English Beat (yeah, I knew General Public before English Beat), Bronski Beat and Yaz. Then I got into The Smiths, Cure, Joy Division, New Order, Siouxsie, etc. When I started going out dancing, the industrial/Wax Trax bands were huge: Nitzer Ebb, Front 242, Revolting Cocks, etc.

Loved it all. Still do.

I joke with my friends about what our PBS oldies concerts are going to be like (in the not too distant future).

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
127. Yup, I like most of those bands too ...
Tue Oct 23, 2018, 11:40 AM
Oct 2018

Pet Shop Boys, Depeche/Yaz/Erasure (Vince Clarke, a vet of all 3 bands, is a MASTERFUL pop songwriter, man), and Talk Talk (their later, 'unpopular' stuff is REALLY good actually), in particular.

Neema

(1,151 posts)
129. Vince Clarke, IKR? Totally underrated.
Tue Oct 23, 2018, 12:19 PM
Oct 2018

By the way, that album is really good! Has so many different influences. Thanks for the tip!

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
130. Glad you like ...
Tue Oct 23, 2018, 12:46 PM
Oct 2018


Another newish album you should check out is the debut from the band CHRVCHES, called 'The Bones of What You Believe' ... it's really friggin' good. I'm sure you've heard of them and heard some of their songs, but that album itself ... is a really, really good listen. Esp. for a Vince Clarke fan ...

Their more recent sophomore record is also excellent, but IMHO slightly less impressive, mainly due to it being more consistently 'poppy'. Their debut has some very cool 'darkness' to it ...

See ya 'round.

Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
87. That's a sign of a mental health issue
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 06:34 PM
Oct 2018

Much like the way that baby donnie refers to itself in similar fashion.

onenote

(42,680 posts)
14. The HOF criteria:
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 04:27 PM
Oct 2018

Peformers: This category honors bands or solo artists which demonstrate musical excellence. Such a descriptor includes (but isn't limited to) influence on other performers or genres; length and depth of career and catalog; stylistic innovations; or superior technique and skills.

Nugent's highest charting single only made it to #30 and he's never had a top ten album. Basically, his career (after the Amboy Dukes) last less than ten years. He's been coasting ever since.

He hasn't influenced anything or anyone in the history of rock and roll, imo.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,165 posts)
70. Ted has none of those things
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 05:47 PM
Oct 2018

He wasn't an exceptional musician or songwriter. He certainly wasn't groundbreaking or influential. He was "hot" when concerts were cheap and people still bought records. Compare his career to others who started in the 60s-70s rock wave and there's simply no comparison.

Paladin

(28,246 posts)
15. So a talent-free fascist gun-sucker like Nugent should get into the Hall Of Fame.....
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 04:28 PM
Oct 2018

...while Warren Zevon gets passed over for yet another year?

Mutha-fuck that shit.......

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
17. Warren Zevon is 1,000x the artist Ted could ever dream of
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 04:34 PM
Oct 2018

being, and he isn't even in. The man's career is emptier than his head.

jmowreader

(50,549 posts)
48. There are a LOT of musicians who are better than Ted who aren't in the HOF
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 05:24 PM
Oct 2018

There's one guy who isn't in the Hall of Fame for Technical Achievement, and should be: Bing Crosby. He was the first big-name star to see the potential of tape recording, and who had the money and influence to do something about it.

But y'know Ted, if Iron Maiden isn't in the Hall of Fame, you don't get in either.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
93. For sure.
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 06:54 PM
Oct 2018

I happen to be listening to a lot of Warren Zevon lately. Thought I'd give him a shout out. ☺

And yeah, Iron Maiden body of work destroys Ted's. Judas Priest as well.

 

Mike Rows His Boat

(389 posts)
128. Bing Crosby cofounded Ampex - the tape recorder and recording tape company.
Tue Oct 23, 2018, 11:50 AM
Oct 2018

Without greats like Bing and Les Paul, the recording industry wouldn’t have evolved as it did.


ProfessorGAC

(64,971 posts)
126. Joan Jett Isn't In
Tue Oct 23, 2018, 11:34 AM
Oct 2018

She had a LOT more influence than Teddy boy, she had a couple top ten singles and albums, and people (like Dave and Khris) want to play with her, like when she sang at their induction into the HoF.

Nobody wants to play with Teddy boy anymore.

jmowreader

(50,549 posts)
21. Where he needs to be is in the Bowhunting Hall of Fame
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 04:45 PM
Oct 2018

If you can get him the fuck off politics and focus his energies on archery, he's very knowledgeable and pleasant.

Paladin

(28,246 posts)
28. Inflicting long, painful deaths on beautiful wild animals.
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 05:12 PM
Oct 2018

Yeah, give that miserable shithead recognition for something like that.

jmowreader

(50,549 posts)
32. Who do you think is in the Bowhunting Hall of Fame?
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 05:14 PM
Oct 2018

I guarantee it is not a collection of vegans and ALF members.

Paladin

(28,246 posts)
50. So go hang out with Nugent, if he's so goddamn "knowledgeable and pleasant."
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 05:25 PM
Oct 2018

Nugent is no Fred Bear or Ben Pearson or Howard Hill. Nugent is an asshole, regardless of environment or honors.

Thekaspervote

(32,751 posts)
22. I call it great! You don't deserve a place in those hallowed halls. How bout adm to
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 04:48 PM
Oct 2018

The trump hall of shame. That’s where you belong

Buns_of_Fire

(17,173 posts)
24. Sorry Ted, they don't have an "Asshole" Induction Category.
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 05:01 PM
Oct 2018

But if they ever decide to add one, believe me, you'll be in the very first group of inductees.

d_r

(6,907 posts)
30. You know what the worst left out band is
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 05:13 PM
Oct 2018

I am not one of their fans, and I wasn't at the time, but honestly, it is Duran Duran. If you were alive in the 80s you would have seen how influential they were across wide parts of culture. They were as important to the 80s as someone like the rolling stones were to the 60s, but people can't see that because of baby boomer bias to the grandness of the 60s and because of bias of what is "really" rock and roll. If a person could step back and look at it impartially they clearly should be admitted.

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
47. Jann Wenner snubs early 80s new wave
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 05:24 PM
Oct 2018

And has fought to blacklist them
The Cure still aren't in, more than 15 years past eligibility
Ditto B-52s, Go-Gos, Devo, Depeche Mode, Television, Siouxie, PIL, etc

Since Wenner's been disgraced in the past year with sex assault accusations,it seems he's losing his pull with the board and we saw a bunch of long-snubbed acts finally nominated this year

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
66. Are they?!? YAY!!!
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 05:41 PM
Oct 2018

Absolutely 100% deserving, and well past-due in fact.

They are seminal, influential, long-lasting, innovative, hugely-popular, with many hits, have been relentlessly touring, and almost 40 years into their career (their first album was 1980), are still selling out rather large venues ... by themselves.

I agree Duran Duran should get in as well, but not before The Cure and The Smiths.

d_r

(6,907 posts)
117. Personally
Tue Oct 23, 2018, 06:33 AM
Oct 2018

I love the Smiths, don't love Duran Duran, but I think Duran Duran was the "bigger" band. I can sing five albums worth of Smith's by heart and I "know of" maybe 10 Duran Duran songs total, but those songs were all huge "hits" whereas those Smith's albums were deeply loved but by a few.

But yeah the Smith's should be in there. And joy division/new order.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
33. The Rock HOF should induct the GUESS WHO
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 05:15 PM
Oct 2018

But no-talent PissyPants Ted? GUESS NOT!!!

Good call, Croz....

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
36. LOL He seriously thinks he's more deserving than Patti fucking Smith?
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 05:16 PM
Oct 2018

One of the most influential performers ever, who recorded Horses and Easter and ruled the 70s CBGBs scene?

https://m.



Her talents have been cited by U2, REM, PJ Harvey and god knows how many successors. She's played with Springsteen, the Stones and her albums all get critical acclaim

While Pedo Nugent is a one-hit wonder with a bad mullet rock novelty song who plays county fairs with Foghat and Loverboy
 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
37. This is almost funny.
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 05:20 PM
Oct 2018

But nothing about that talentless pants shitter is the least bit funny. One sick, disgusting pig of a human...and that's an insult to pigs everywhere.

Dr Vegas

(456 posts)
38. Link Wray nominated, but did not get in
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 05:20 PM
Oct 2018

When I posted my vote on my FB page last year, I got a lot of "Who's Link Wray?"
I really hope MC5 get in this year

GReedDiamond

(5,311 posts)
39. Is there a Pedophile Hall of Fame...
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 05:20 PM
Oct 2018

...or even just a No-Talent Scumbag Asshole Piece-of-Shit Hall of Fame?

That's where Ted the Ped's legacy could be "celebrated."

Drop Dead, Ted.

madinmaryland

(64,931 posts)
41. Let's see. A couple of hits in the 70's?
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 05:21 PM
Oct 2018

He’s spent his time since then shitting himself and jacking off with his guns.

Maybe they have a place for him in the Masturbators Hall of Fame. Next to Peewee Herman.

TygrBright

(20,755 posts)
42. Dude, seriously? You can get in for twenty-one bucks.
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 05:21 PM
Oct 2018

Oh, wait, that's the senior rate. If you want to claim you're not a senior it'll cost you two bucks more.

But it's really worth it. Fun and cool way to spend a day!

If you don't have the split, start a GoFundMe.

I'm sure some of your buds will pony up.

helpfully,
Bright

 

sfwriter

(3,032 posts)
43. I'm 48 and can say...
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 05:22 PM
Oct 2018

I do not know a single song by him.

ABBA, Grandmaster Flash and Patti Smith I’ve heard of.

I know Ted as an election-time ass and gun nut.

FuzzyRabbit

(1,967 posts)
91. This performance is embarrassing! Nugent isn't even a good poser.
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 06:48 PM
Oct 2018

This parody just falls flat, right from the first note.

jmowreader

(50,549 posts)
54. I'm 55 and can say...
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 05:31 PM
Oct 2018

You must not have had a radio when you were a kid. They used to play "Cat Scratch Fever" on every station once an hour where I lived. It is such a wonderful song with a catchy riff (seriously, it is a catchy riff) and a fine message about the joys of catching gonorrhea.

Funny war story follows: In November 1993 I bought a little black kitten. Three weeks later I had a painful lump on my leg about six inches down from where they come together at the top. "I guess I better get this checked." The PA runs some tests and comes back with the results: "You have cat scratch fever." I looked at the guy..."you mean that's a real disease?"

 

sfwriter

(3,032 posts)
63. My point is...
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 05:38 PM
Oct 2018

This one-hit Wonder is easily overlooked. I was more PAC-MAN Fever than “classic” rock which sounded like oldies to me by 1985. He hasn’t scraped up any cultural relevance and nothing that transcends his own generation.

llmart

(15,536 posts)
84. I'm 69 and never heard him once on the radio.
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 06:20 PM
Oct 2018

I listened to the radio all the time. If not for DU, I would not be able to name one song of his.

CaptainTruth

(6,582 posts)
44. Notice how all the right-wingers wallow in self-pity today?
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 05:22 PM
Oct 2018

Seems like every one views themselves as victims of something.

mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)
45. Nugent is a HOF asshole, but I have to admit I still love Journey to the Center of the Mind
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 05:22 PM
Oct 2018

when he was with the Amboy Dukes.

BigmanPigman

(51,582 posts)
46. Anthony Bourdain said that his Nugent episode of
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 05:22 PM
Oct 2018

his No Reservations show got more hate mail than any other show he filmed. Nugent was an ass about hunting, guns, etc. Tony said, "We disagree on almost everything". I don't know how he was able to stay so cool around that dickhead.

True Dough

(17,296 posts)
62. Gotta admire Bourdain
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 05:38 PM
Oct 2018

Damn, such a loss. Still watching the final episodes of Parts Unknown with joy and a strong mix of sadness.

BigmanPigman

(51,582 posts)
67. Me too...
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 05:42 PM
Oct 2018

I liked the one where he was in Mscow with his pal Zamir and said that "Putin is a businessman with an e.g., just like tRump only shorter". He was pretty good at spotting BS.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
49. Who's Ted Nugent? oh, I remember
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 05:25 PM
Oct 2018

he's that old dude that sang at president Hoover's inauguration, damn, hims too old for the hall of fame.

maxsolomon

(33,281 posts)
61. Politics aside, he and the Amboy Dukes SHOULD be in the HOF
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 05:37 PM
Oct 2018

At this point, the HOF is filled with plenty of mediocrities, and more and more keep being inducted.

Bon Jovi? ELO? Kiss? In for years. Is Donna Summer "Rock"? Is Tupac? Is Miles Davis? People are in for 1 or 2 hit songs (Del Shannon), or backing up Gene Vincent (the Blue Caps). Ted had a legitimate, albeit crass, decade-plus career before assuming his current role of America's resident Gun Nut.

Simply put, he's not in because he's an asshole, not because he's not good enough. No one wants the headache of dealing with him. Posthumous induction, with an asterisk.

True Dough

(17,296 posts)
65. I loved Bon Jovi!
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 05:40 PM
Oct 2018

Grew up listening to New Jersey and Slippery When Wet. They might not be R&R HoF worthy, but I have a real sentimental connection with their music.

But your're right, the R&R HoF is a joke.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
69. If he wants to blame liberals for holding him back from his vaunted HOF induction
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 05:45 PM
Oct 2018

Perhaps he could refund all of us the hard-earned money we forked over for his albums in the 70's, before we were aware of what a Praegrandis Assholius he truly is, politically and in real life.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
71. If it comes down to The Shaggs and Butt Nugent
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 05:49 PM
Oct 2018

I'm voting for The Shaggs. Who can forget their song "My Pal Foot Foot"? Classic material right there!

hatrack

(59,583 posts)
131. I remember a live show I saw featuring The Shaggs on the PA during the break
Tue Oct 23, 2018, 01:07 PM
Oct 2018

Everybody around me kept muttering "What the fuck IS this?"

I alone knew who!

Firestorm49

(4,030 posts)
72. New Category?
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 05:54 PM
Oct 2018

Maybe the R&R Hall Of Fame needs to create a new caregory for Nugent.

Submit your thoughts below.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,562 posts)
73. Regardless of his politics
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 05:56 PM
Oct 2018

and his vile nature, I`m totally with David Crosby on this. Nugent is nowhere near good enough at anything to be the Hall. Cat Scratch Fever is mediocre at best, and it`s the only Nugent song most people can name, if even that.

Arguably, his guitar playing is his `best` of his alleged and minuscule talents....so, if you ever get the chance to ask him, or one of his adherents, find out if they remember when Shawn Lane blew him off the stage...at the age of 15.

Also, James Hetfield is way more brain-damaged than I`d thought.

AZ Jim

(70 posts)
75. Nugent is a piece of what he did in his pants
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 06:05 PM
Oct 2018

and he and his music smell like that too. Fuck the draft dodging punkass.

world wide wally

(21,739 posts)
90. Based on his musicianship
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 06:43 PM
Oct 2018

Fuck no!
He sucks on guitar.
He is totally outside the rock culture as well.
Fuck Ted Nugent

davepdx

(224 posts)
102. I think that the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame can accommodate and honor Mr. Nugent...
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 07:26 PM
Oct 2018

like one of my dorm brothers at the Univ. of South Fla. did for George Wallace in 1968 when he stuck a George Wallace "Stand Up for America" bumper sticker inside one of the urinals.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
103. A Special Award for Ted: Bronzed Fecal-Caked Pants.
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 07:26 PM
Oct 2018

And be grateful for that, you unbelievable LIGHTWEIGHT

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
105. He's not in the RRHOF because nobody wants him there.
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 07:35 PM
Oct 2018

Rock and Roll is for the cool people, not the Great Unwashed.

Solly Mack

(90,762 posts)
115. Maybe Ted should try dying to get the pity vote.
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 11:23 PM
Oct 2018

Doubt it would work but there's only one way to find out.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
120. They should create a special Lifetime Mediocrity Award for him
Tue Oct 23, 2018, 11:03 AM
Oct 2018

I can't even think of anyone else who has been consistently mid-low on the charts for that long a time. Even vapid schlock like Hootie & the Blowfish have had #1s.

Initech

(100,059 posts)
121. Grandmaster Flash, ABBA, and Patti Smith all contributed something of value to rock music.
Tue Oct 23, 2018, 11:10 AM
Oct 2018

What did Ted Nugent contribute? A way to get out of the draft and a couple of annoying riffs and that's about it.

ProfessorGAC

(64,971 posts)
124. Good For David Crosby
Tue Oct 23, 2018, 11:30 AM
Oct 2018

Nugent can't play none. In fact, on his first big selling record, there was a guy in the band that was a better player and a better singer.

He didn't last long in Teddy's little band. He either decided he wouldn't work with a dick like Teddy, or Teddy couldn't handle the competition.

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